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| April 14, 2017 stick8 1992 posts | You make the call. No one on, no one out. Batter gets a hit. As he rounds first he accidentally runs right into the first baseman who is watching the play in the outfield. The batter runner gets up and goes back to first. Does the umpire make a call or just call "time" when the play appears to be over? |
| April 14, 2017 k man Men's 65 326 posts | As long as the runner makes no attempt to continue to 2nd after the contact, he does not get the base for interference from what I understand. He must make the effort to continue and the umpire signals that there was interference so that if the runner is tagged out at 2nd, he will thence awarded the base. |
| April 14, 2017 The Screamer5 Men's 60 69 posts | I believe that would be ruled a delayed obstruction where the umpire would signal obstruction on the 1st baseman and let the play continue on to its end...and then award the batter/runner the base he feels the runner would've gotten to safely if not obstructed with. Pass that point the runner is on his own and not protected. |
| April 15, 2017 lb16 Men's 60 196 posts | If player makes an attempt or not doesn't matter. If the umpire felt runner would have made 2nd without obstruction that is what should be awarded. Most players when obstructed will almost always immediately go back to bag they were coming from. |
| April 15, 2017 stick8 1992 posts | The Screamer5 and lb16 are correct!! Let's take this further. If the batter-runner gets up goes to second and tries to go to third but is thrown out. Is he in fact out? Keep in mind there is a delayed dead ball signal for obstruction by the first baseman. |
| April 15, 2017 lb16 Men's 60 196 posts | Base runner should only be awarded base he would have gotten without obstruction. If base runner continues to 3rd ruling should be an out. |
| April 16, 2017 stick8 1992 posts | This is a judgement call. If the ump feels the batter runner would have made it only to second safely minus the obstruction but then tries to stretch it to third and is thrown out he is in fact out--despite the delayed dead ball for obstruction. If he does make it to,third safely he's at third!! lb16 is correct again. |
| April 16, 2017 coop3636 514 posts | LB16 It does matter if you make an attempt or not. If you go back to first, the ump WILL NOT award second base. The only way he should award second if the runner makes an attempt to go to second, even if he walks there. |
| April 17, 2017 B.J. 1107 posts | coop... a obstructed runner does not have to make an attempt to go to the next base... if a runner is obstructed the umpire should give a signal and a verbal call of obstruction and the play continues as a delayed ded ball... once the play is completed the umpire would then award any advancement of bases that in his judgement the runner would have obtained...also contact is not necessary for obstruction to be called |
| April 17, 2017 DaveDowell Men's 70 4317 posts | B.J. ... You and coop3636 are both correct in my experience ... You are interpreting the rule correctly, but coop3636 is accurate in stating what the vast majority of umps do (or actually fail to do) when the circumstance arises, notwithstanding the rule's technical wording ... |
| April 17, 2017 stick8 1992 posts | Coop3636 I believe what you elluded to applies in baseball, at least at the high school level where I'm at. I'm not certain about the major leagues however. BJ you are correct but I'd only give the delayed dead ball signal (left arm out), not a verbal call while the play continued. Once the play is over then I'd make the verbal call. |
| April 17, 2017 lb16 Men's 60 196 posts | coop3636 it is called that way incorrectly most of the time. It is a judgement call for the umpire what base runner would have made if not for obstruction. The reason being the 1st baseman could just truck the runner every time and runner 99% of the time is going to just stop and go back to 1st. The call is made to penalize defense for obstruction and for runner to get base he is entitled to if not for obstruction! |
| April 17, 2017 HAT MAN Men's 50 229 posts | Try this on for size 1 out man on first, routine grounder to SS runner on first (1st baseman playing close to bag) deliberately hooks his leg around the 1st baseman, rolls on the ground then gets up and runs to 2nd. Safe at 2nd out at first on throw. When asked why the runner did that after, he said it takes away a routine double play every time. Says he does the same thing when he needs to get a double on a hit. Will intentionally run into 1st and fall so ump sees it then continues to 2nd. Says he has gotten the call for years. |
