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| Aug. 11, 2017 1jonsey 48 posts | 1st basemens mitt I recently watched a game with a runner on 1st and 2 outs. The defense shifted drastically for a right handed dead pull hitter they moved the 1st baseman just to the SS side of 2nd base and put the 2b in short LF. The batter hit a deep fly ball for the 3rd out. My question is what would have been the call if the batter had hit a ground ball to the 1st baseman who was using a 1st basemens mitt and he caught it and got the 3rd out at 2nd base? I know if he officially changed positions he would need to change his glove and what is the penalty for using an illegal glove? |
| Aug. 11, 2017 HAT MAN Men's 50 229 posts | until the 1st baseman is replaced with another player his designation is still as a first baseman. 40 years at first base lol Another way to look at it is on MLB shifts when the 3rd baseman is playing at SS the put out still goes down as 5 to 3 or wherever he throws to. |
| Aug. 11, 2017 stick8 1991 posts | As I understand it there is no penalty. it happened to our team earlier this year. Our pitcher was walking too many people. So him and the first baseman switched. After a couple batters the ump came out and tsaid he has to use a regular glove if he's going to continue pitching. |
| Aug. 11, 2017 1jonsey 48 posts | HAT, yes that makes sense as long as there is not another 1st baseman stick8, there has to be some sort of penalty if he fields a ball using an illegal glove otherwise why would the umpire tell him to change it? |
| Aug. 12, 2017 stick8 1991 posts | 1jonsey I can't speak to why there isn't some form of a penalty. The rule states any player can use a glove but only the first baseman and catcher can use a mitt. Keep in mind this doesn't mean one who's catching or playing first MUST wear a glove. They can certainly use a glove. Now if this was baseball it would be different. |
| Aug. 12, 2017 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | softball we can use whatever glove/mitt we want at any position....been changed for a couple of yrs now.....not so sure of the young guys....but do know ASA allows it....... |
| Aug. 12, 2017 curveball Men's 65 705 posts | Not SSUSA yet Bob. Mitts only for 1st and catcher... |
| Aug. 14, 2017 B.J. 1105 posts | jonsey... as HATMAN posted above legal play... as far as a penalty for using an illegal glove as in a OF using a mitt and catching a fly ball... the offense has the choice of staying with the out and keeping any advance of bases and runs scored... or having a do over where the batter assumes the count he had before the catch |
| Aug. 14, 2017 grayhitter59 Men's 60 345 posts | Never heard of a do over in softball, please check penalty. I think staff should answer this one. Just saying. |
| Aug. 14, 2017 curveball Men's 65 705 posts | gray, do over is one option given the manager in the ASA rule book for mitt infraction. SSUSA umpire will go to ASA rules when not covered in SSUSA rules. |
| Aug. 14, 2017 curveball Men's 65 705 posts | ANY glove smaller than a garbage can lid SHOULD be OK for a pitcher! 1st base mitt used on the mound would be of no major defensive advantage. |
| Oct. 24, 2017 marcster13 102 posts | Never heard of a do over either. This would be fun to call though. I can hear the chirps now. |
| Oct. 25, 2017 B94 Men's 50 138 posts | Seeing as it is mandated that the pitcher wear a mask he should be allowed to wear whatever glove he feels comfortable protecting himself with. The rules need to be updated to reflect this... |
| Oct. 25, 2017 curveball Men's 65 705 posts | B94 Agree in the name of safety. Someone needs to address at he upcoming winter meetings. Has the location of that meeting been announced? |
| Oct. 25, 2017 SSUSA Staff 3483 posts | The 2017 National Rules Committee Sessions will occur during the Annual ISA/SSUSA National Convention in Auburn, AL, from Wednesday, November 29th through Friday, December 1st ... All sessions are open to the public ... |
