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Aug. 11, 2017
1jonsey
34 posts
1st basemens mitt
I recently watched a game with a runner on 1st and 2 outs. The defense shifted drastically for a right handed dead pull hitter they moved the 1st baseman just to the SS side of 2nd base and put the 2b in short LF. The batter hit a deep fly ball for the 3rd out. My question is what would have been the call if the batter had hit a ground ball to the 1st baseman who was using a 1st basemens mitt and he caught it and got the 3rd out at 2nd base? I know if he officially changed positions he would need to change his glove and what is the penalty for using an illegal glove?
Aug. 11, 2017
HAT MAN
Men's 40
144 posts
until the 1st baseman is replaced with another player his designation is still as a first baseman.
40 years at first base lol

Another way to look at it is on MLB shifts when the 3rd baseman is playing at SS the put out still goes down as 5 to 3 or wherever he throws to.
Aug. 11, 2017
stick8
1539 posts
As I understand it there is no penalty. it happened to our team earlier this year. Our pitcher was walking too many people. So him and the first baseman switched. After a couple batters the ump came out and tsaid he has to use a regular glove if he's going to continue pitching.
Aug. 11, 2017
1jonsey
34 posts
HAT, yes that makes sense as long as there is not another 1st baseman stick8, there has to be some sort of penalty if he fields a ball using an illegal glove otherwise why would the umpire tell him to change it?
Aug. 12, 2017
stick8
1539 posts
1jonsey I can't speak to why there isn't some form of a penalty. The rule states any player can use a glove but only the first baseman and catcher can use a mitt. Keep in mind this doesn't mean one who's catching or playing first MUST wear a glove. They can certainly use a glove.
Now if this was baseball it would be different.
Aug. 12, 2017
mad dog
Men's 65
4132 posts
softball we can use whatever glove/mitt we want at any position....been changed for a couple of yrs now.....not so sure of the young guys....but do know ASA allows it.......
Aug. 12, 2017
curveball
Men's 65
572 posts
Not SSUSA yet Bob. Mitts only for 1st and catcher...
Aug. 14, 2017
B.J.
279 posts
jonsey... as HATMAN posted above legal play... as far as a penalty for using an illegal glove as in a OF using a mitt and catching a fly ball... the offense has the choice of staying with the out and keeping any advance of bases and runs scored... or having a do over where the batter assumes the count he had before the catch
Aug. 14, 2017
grayhitter59
Men's 55
119 posts
Never heard of a do over in softball, please check penalty.

I think staff should answer this one.

Just saying.
Aug. 14, 2017
curveball
Men's 65
572 posts
gray, do over is one option given the manager in the ASA rule book for mitt infraction. SSUSA umpire will go to ASA rules when not covered in SSUSA rules.
Aug. 14, 2017
curveball
Men's 65
572 posts
ANY glove smaller than a garbage can lid SHOULD be OK for a pitcher! 1st base mitt used on the mound would be of no major defensive advantage.
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