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Discussion: Evil B.P. 52+ Softballs

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Aug. 19, 2017
Kev
Men's 65
12 posts
Evil B.P. 52+ Softballs
I am looking for 24 - 36 good practice balls. Our recreational league uses the Tattoo 52 cor 275 compression. The couple of tournaments I have played in used the Trump Stote 44 cor 375 compression. I really like the 44 ball of my Miken Big Cat and Adidas Melee. What would be a good practice ball? The Evil BP 52+ advertises not to harm bats in any weather so I am worried they are mush balls. Some product recommendations would help.
Aug. 19, 2017
mad dog
Men's 65
4171 posts
get a hold of addias and ask for the NXS( all weather cover) ball.....the 52 will be ok for ya....
Aug. 21, 2017
tattooball
748 posts
Bob are you drunk? Are you referring to the NX3. You can call 845 532 2668 for info, we have balls for .52 play or .44 that are safer on bats.
Aug. 21, 2017
jc11
Men's 50
12 posts
44 cor balls are not safer on Senior bats, they are very good at helping to break a bat in. If not used properly, especially when the weather gets below 55, you stand a chance to break the bat. It also stands whether the bat has some durability.

52 cor 300/275 balls work well and will not harm most senior bats. They will just make the break in period longer.
Aug. 21, 2017
tattooball
748 posts
Jc there are many options for bp balls, the cor and compression can be altered to achieve the desired result with less impact to the bat. This results in longer lasting bats with very good performance on the field. We make 2 bp specific balls that are bat friendly. They both offer greatly reduced severity index impact yet fly as well or greater than there game play ball counterpart.
Aug. 21, 2017
Bobby Buggs
82 posts
Kev, Im the inventor of the Evil BP ball and if your interested in getting some email buggs@evilsports.com for a discount code or any questions you might have. Evil BP ball has been in play for almost 10 years with proven performance and thousands of satisfied customers. I assure you they will exceed your expectations.
Aug. 21, 2017
tattooball
748 posts
Exactly what did you invent? A poly core? Or a 2 color ball? Because a 2 color ball has been around long before you were and I wont finish this sentence I think most know how you got your start.
Aug. 21, 2017
Bobby Buggs
82 posts
I believe you have been told Many times by your employer and perhaps a lawyer or 2 to Keep your mouth shut when it comes to Evil Sports. Probably a good thing to do.
Aug. 21, 2017
Hail Ragna!
Men's 55
39 posts
I had heard that the Evil BP ball was developed to help break in bats. Just saying what I was told. Another vendor that worked for Louisville swore by that. He said at the time that Slugger/Demarini were coming out with a new ball just for that. Who do you believe? SSUSA should have a voting poll for this one......

Hail Ragna
Kirk Hendrix
Aug. 22, 2017
mad dog
Men's 65
4171 posts
hail/kirk......the ball was invented by kevin.......buggs had nothing to do with it.....he can yell and talk crap all he wants....but he did not invent the 52 ball.....
Aug. 22, 2017
mad dog
Men's 65
4171 posts
oops forgot to say sorry to kevin.....knew it was something like that.......we use the NX3 for leagues here in texas....and like the way it plays......
Aug. 22, 2017
Bobby Buggs
82 posts
John Furlong from Yearflo sports developed the 52-300 polyurethane first. Thats a fact, not your folklore hearsay information. The Evil BP concept was developed by me and laughed at by your buddy until he decided to copy it, Again fact. But thanks for playing.
Aug. 23, 2017
SilverGhost
32 posts
Hey Buggs your boring..you INVENTED NOTHING.
Oct. 31, 2017
Jon44
Men's 55
116 posts
I have recently purchased both the Evil BP ball and the Tattoo NX3 BP ball. Both are in transit and I am excited to start hitting them when they get here.

My question is this-- both manufacturers claim that hitting these balls for BP does less damage to the composite bats, which sounds very appealing. I know there are a lot of variables that come into play (temperature, etc), but could anyone who hits these balls now for BP be willing to share how many more swings they get hitting these balls instead of the Stote, Rock, or any other game ball? Are we talking 2X more swings? 5X?

Are there any other potential draw backs to hitting these balls? Does it feel different due to them being lighter (are they lighter?)? I am not looking for more manufacturer on manufacturer crime (as seen above), but honest feedback from regular people hitting the balls so I know whether or not I want to hit my game bats more in BP with less worry of breakage, which I really want to do.
Nov. 1, 2017
bkb555
230 posts
wow...I searched this ball issue and it goes back to 2003 and before.....can't we all get along?
Nov. 1, 2017
DaveDowell
Men's 65
2527 posts
bkb555 ... And the amazing thing over those 14 years is that the ball just keeps getting worse while NONE of the players have had ANY decline in skills, strength, endurance, eye-hand coordination or reaction speed over that time frame ... Hilarious!
Nov. 1, 2017
tattooball
748 posts
Dave you really need to brush up on your senior softball awareness. Senior players get better with age just like find wine, just ask we all tell you.

So much for the 2 buck chuck.
Nov. 1, 2017
DOERBAUM
Men's 55
81 posts
TO KEVIN AND JON, I HAVE HIT BOTH AND FOR MY MONEY THE NX3 IS THE WAY TO GO. AT

WOODLAWN IN ST PETE THEY HAVE A LOT OF THE EVIL BALLS, AND THEY ARE FUN TO HIT, HOWEVER

THEY SOAK UP MOISTURE OVER TIME AND THE COVER DETERIORATES, JUST AS ANY OTHER BALL

DOES....EXCEPT THE TATTOO NX3. I HAVE ORDERED 6 DOZEN OVER THE LAST 2 YEARS AND THE

FIRST ONES STILL HIT AS WELL AS THE NEWEST ONES. WHEN I SAY HIT, I MEAN HIT A LOT. I HIT AT

LEAST 2 TIMES A WEEK, A MINIMUM OF 100 SWINGS. I ALSO HIT IN MY FRONT FIELD OFF OF A SOFT

TOSS WHEELER DEALER MACHINE. ABOUT A THIRD OF THEM LAND OVER THE FENCE INTO THE COW

PASTURE NEXT DOOR. YOU CAN IMAGINE THE NEED TO GIVE THE OCCASIONAL BALL A GOOD

BATH....LOL! THE FANTASTIC THING ABOUT THE NX3 IS YOU CAN THROW THEM IN A GARBAGE CAN,

TURN THE HOSE ON THEM, ADD SOME DAWN, AND SCRUB THE DIRT OFF OF THEM TILL THEY

ALMOST LOOK NEW WITH NO DETRIMENTAL EFFECT WHAT SO EVER!!! THEY ALSO FLY AS GOOD AS

ANY GAME BALL. YOU WONT BE DISAPPOINTED IN EITHER, BUT THE NX3 HAS MY VOTE!
Nov. 1, 2017
Jon44
Men's 55
116 posts
Doerbaum-- appreciate the feedback.

Is it also your experience that the claim that they are better for the bat is true? Do you think you would feel confident pulling a gamer bat for BP without total fear I would crack it? Currently, I get a bat or two I like broken in (currently a Melee 12 and a Wicked) then put them away and hit other bats in BP with normal balls. I, like you, hit 2-3X a week, and a gamer bat never comes out of my bag. I know there are no guarantees, but with these balls would I feel more confident to hit my good bats with less worry that I might crack it?
Nov. 2, 2017
Jon44
Men's 55
116 posts
Sorry--- a little more on this--- I accept the fact that bats will still crack hitting these balls. I just am curious what others are experiencing when hitting them-- are they getting 5X more swings than hitting regular game balls before a bat cracks? If that's the case, I am willing to hit better bats throughout the year when hitting in batting practice. If it's generally only 2X more swings or less hitting these balls before a bat cracks, I probably will keep the game bats in the bag still.

I understand there are all kinds of variables and mileage may differ based on these factors (weather, size of the hitter/how violent the swing is, etc). I am just looking for others general experiences.
Nov. 6, 2017
Bobby Buggs
82 posts
Woodlawn has been using those Evil BP balls for Years without damage to peoples bats. The Evil BP ball is what we call a rinse and repeat ball with our water resistant cover so they clean up simple and easy. I would not tell you to do that with the Evil game balls.
I can only speak to the Evil BP ball but the Evil BP52 has been perfected for use on any bat in all types of temps. This has been proven for over 4 years now and continues to be one of our top sellers.
Im happy to send you a couple samples to try before you buy.
Nov. 6, 2017
BruceinGa
Men's 70
3180 posts
I don't hit many Evil ball except in tournaments. For the past year and a half I have hit the NX3s's in bp. The year before that I hit the Evil bp balls (thanks buggs). Last year I would tell everyone that I had 5000 swings on my Dudley 12" el. Now I tell everyone that I have 6000 on that same Dudley. Well, today I finally cracked it. Time to move to my next Dudley, the one with the blue barrel. I don't know of any bat that will compare to that, durability or distance.
Nov. 6, 2017
BruceinGa
Men's 70
3180 posts
I've had time to think about my last statement. Let me make a correction.
There are bats that will compare with respect to distance, not durability. :)
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