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Discussion: Throwing arm has gone bad.

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Sept. 22, 2017
Dancer
114 posts
Throwing arm has gone bad.
I cannot throw overhanded anymore, only underhanded. This has been going on for about three months. I have extreme pain on the right side of my bicep and when I throw, the pain is real bad on front of my right shoulder. Very painful, makes me wish I never threw that ball overhanded. I was thinking maybe a massage (or acupuncture) would help and then she ask me a question if I think I tore my bicep tendon.
I think this may be it, a torn bicep tendon. Has anybody here had overhand throwing problems in the past and found out that is what it was a torn bicep tendon?
Another guy on another team has the same problem. I thought it was mouse arm, because my bicep hurts when I use a computer, but now I am thinking it is worse then that.
Sept. 22, 2017
Mannjo
55 posts
Not being a doctor,but playing with guys with similar symptoms,sounds more like rotator cuff tear. Get to a good sport orthopedic doctor . You might be getting what is called frozen shoulder.
Sept. 22, 2017
cuda65
61 posts
Dancer, first of all, how old are you? Plus, you need to get an MRI. The reason I ask your age, is because I`m 78 and completely tore two tendons and opted out of surgery. Mine were rotator cuff tendons and after seven months, my shoulder is starting to feel better. A buddy of mine pulled a bicep tendon which resulted in a Popeye bicep. But he can still throw. An MRI is really the only way to determine the true extent of your injury. If it`s only partially torn, you can rehab it. I`m not trying to be a Doctor, just trying to help.
Sept. 26, 2017
Dancer
114 posts
I am 57 and a mean lean softball machine. I know you guys are not being a doctor and thanks for your input. I just wanted some feedback. Mannjo that is the second time I heard someone say frozen shoulder. But both of you are right, I need an MRI. I love playing the game, it is in my heart and soul. I want to play in Vegas one day, just waiting for my wife to leave me, so I can. She hates softball and cannot understand why I still play. Maybe because I can still run and hit 600 and it excites me. I don't have to live through professional sports or my kid playing sports when I have my own game to play. Playing softball makes me feel young again.
Sept. 26, 2017
Birdman65
Men's 70
16 posts
I'm 72 and play 70 majors and had frozen shoulder when I was 65 in my throwing arm. I was an outfielder so I played 1st base for 3 years as well as catcher a few times, it honestly took me 6 years before it went away completely. You may not have frozen should so make sure you see an orthopedic surgeon and have an MRI. With my frozen should I went to physical therapy 3 times a week for 6 weeks which gets expensive unless you have great insurance. What I did was memorize the various exercises and would do them every other day. (some places will actually give you printouts of the exercises) Frozen shoulder only effected my hitting about 10-15 percent but did cut off the long ball for the most part. I now have frozen shoulder in my left and it cuts down my swing about 20% but I still play outfield and it painful to reach out to catch a ball as your reach is somewhat limited. There is a process where they supposedly can "stretch" your shoulder muscles but I'm not interested in that process, if it was my throwing arm I would consider it after really having a conversation with an orthopedic surgeon. They say if you get frozen shoulder in one are your more likely to get it in the other and it did happen to me. After 7 years I can finally throw about 85% of what I could before I had frozen shoulder and probably 5-10 would have been lost anyway after 7 years. Hopefully it is only a temporary issue but see a orthopedic surgeon and have the MRI done. Keep playing even if you have to play a position your not used to. Good luck!
Sept. 26, 2017
shortstopchic10
Women's 40
42 posts
Id suggest getting a good orthopedic dr and getting it looked at. I tore my bicep tendon but it never rolled up so I didnt know for sure and couldnt throw without pain so I finally got it checked out. Many roll up and give you a popeye arm look.. mine did not. Had to have surgery and a few weeks later just reacting to my dogs fightning I broke it up and tore it again, the day after I was given the ok to be out of my sling. Definitely get it looked at. Ive since had my second surgery on that arm. I also had some other stuff in there that he found and cleaned up... bone spurs and a couple other minor things. That was in 2008 and 2009.. Ive since been back to playing and I play short so I need to be able to throw :) Go have it looked at
Sept. 26, 2017
hector
Men's 60
51 posts
Went through the same thing this year., had xray and ultra sound. My problem is bicep tendonitis.
Sept. 26, 2017
tc4whlr
31 posts
first go to a dr., 2nd I have had similar pain twice with the bicep tendon but mine was from lifting too much. I over lifted my chest which caused my pec muscles to pull my shoulders forward and consequently pulling the bicep tendon in a position to get pinched every time I threw.(lit me up like a x-mas tree) with some balanced lifting(ie more emphasis on my back) My problem has gone away. :)
Sept. 28, 2017
surf88
Men's 65
1000 posts
My right shoulder area became sore, then got even worse from diving for balls in the outfield. I hurt it on one trip to Costa Rica when a wave sucked out and threw on the sand, shoulder first. In 09' I finally gave in and had surgery (out patient). They disconnected my bicep tendon, shortened my clavicle, and went into the rotator cuff to clean out the scar tissue and bone spurs. Evidently spurs were sawing away at my biceps tendon. They drilled and fastened a titanium anchor and reattached the bicep tendon. That procedure was done in November and I was able to play the following April/May.

What you may consider doing, is post where you live and in your post ask who may have had a good experience with an orthopedic surgeon. Mine practices in Montrose, Colorado and he is fantastic. Good luck with it but bite the bullet and have it done.
Sept. 28, 2017
stick8
1781 posts
Had issues throwing this past January. Figured it was a shoulder strain and it would go away. Come April it still hurt to throw so I went to an orthopedic surgeon for an exam and did an MRI. Two things I had. A low-grade labrum tear and a about a 1/2 inch paralabral cyst lodged in my shoulder. No surgery necessary, a month of physical therapy. Doc said the cyst is causing the inflammation when I throw. He compared it to someone trying to close a door with a wad of paper stuck in the door hinge. He stated the cyst will eventually dissolve on its own and I should be ok. While my shoulder is better, my throwing isn't where I need to be. The doc said the cyst could take months, up to a year to go away. From what others have stated and thru this experience, its apparent shoulders are notoriously slow healers. No softball activities for me until next spring. Hopefully time will heal it.
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