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Discussion: change tie breakers.. lets hear your thoughts

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Sept. 27, 2017
coop3636
514 posts
change tie breakers.. lets hear your thoughts
I think the tie breaker format needs to be changed.
The first tie breaker should be run differential, not runs allowed.
I teams that goes 1-1 with scores of 29-28 and 25-28 (54 runs given up) would be lower than a team that goes 1-1 with scores 15-1 and 9-10 (24 runs given up)
I think the team that lost by 1 and won by 3 should have the higher seed.
The other team lost by 14 and won by 1.
This would be an easy change next year if the players want it.
It should be how close the games are, not how many runs you give up.
Let me know your thoughts.
Thanks
Brett
Sept. 27, 2017
chico senior
Men's 60
134 posts
I disagree. What you are proposing encourages teams to run up the scores on lesser opponents. The one constant that all managers strive for is playing good defense. That does in no way embarrass the other team. Doing it you wat encourages managers to keep their best players on the field to attempt to run it up.
Sept. 27, 2017
SSUSA Staff
3490 posts
We concur 101% with chico senior's concise and eloquent analysis ... Don't look for a National Rules Committee change in the foreseeable future ...
Sept. 27, 2017
coop3636
514 posts
I never looked at it that way (you make sense)
Glad you showed me that side of it
I will take back my opinion
Thanks
Brett
Sept. 28, 2017
DCPete
409 posts
Actually it doesn't make any sense.
You can't "run up the score" when you're only allowed to score 5 runs per inning.
And the only teams that can truly run up the score in the Open inning are the M+ teams & they are now automatically the Home team whenever they play a non-M+ team so they still can't run up the score.
Coop you were right the 1st time; a team that wins both their games by a score of 20 - 10 will have a worse seed than a team that wins their 2 games each by a score of 10 - 9 so yeah the current system doesn't make sense.
Sept. 28, 2017
DaveDowell
Men's 70
4317 posts
Not so quick Pete ... An actual occurrence from a major tournament earlier this year ...

Visiting team up nine with two outs in the top of 6th ... Manager tells batter to "..strike out so we don't flip-flop and we can get some BP in the open.." ... Batter did so, reluctantly ... Home got one in bottom of 6th and Visitor put up 23 in the Open in their BP session ... We believe such activity, although rare, should NOT be rewarded for purposes of seeding ... It's our intent, as chico senior observed, to reward good defense first in a tie-breaker environment ...

Sept. 28, 2017
DCPete
409 posts
Wow, guess there's no limit on bad sportsmanship.
Batter should have told Manager to go jump in the lake or maybe tell his Manager to go pinch-hit himself if he wants an intentional strike out.
Too bad the ump didn't make them Flip-Flop anyway . . .
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