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| Nov. 13, 2017 grayhitter59 Men's 60 345 posts | bats on playing field Question for staff. On deck batter is waiting to come to the plate,( swinging several bats warming up) batter hits ball for a base hit with runners advancing, coming home. Defense throws home wildly, on deck batter had several bats in his hands, as the batter hits ball, he (on deck player) puts bats against the fence and runs up to batters box area to tell runners ball has been thrown home, ball is not close to plate and is thrown so wild that it hit bats that have been placed against fence. my question why is an out recorded there, should it not have been rule a dead ball with no advancement. how is a mistake on the defense be a negative on the offense. |
| Nov. 13, 2017 DaveDowell Men's 70 4312 posts | grayhitter59 ... The on-deck-batter was also to blame here and contributed to the problem ... He's limited to only two warm-up bats and, by your hypothetical, it appears he may have been attempting a Guinness Book record for "most bats carried into the on-deck-circle for no apparent reason" category ... Just kidding (sorta)! __________ SSUSA Rulebook §7.2 C. The on-deck batter may loosen up with no more than two official softball bats, an approved warm-up bat, or a combination not to exceed two. |
| Nov. 13, 2017 grayhitter59 Men's 60 345 posts | ok,but you did not answer question. why an out? |
| Nov. 13, 2017 B.J. 1105 posts | Dave can correct me if im wrong... as soon as the ball came into contact with the bats dead ball should be called by the umpire.. then it becomes his judgement.. he could return runners to there previous base.. let them score or call them out if he believes a play could have been made |
| Nov. 13, 2017 grayhitter59 Men's 60 345 posts | I always thought it was dead ball no advancement. I just don't understand why an out. Bad throws now help a team out!!!! |
| Nov. 13, 2017 rlspls1974 Men's 65 119 posts | Take a look at the SSUSA Rulebook 8.4(10)D Exception 1. If the ball becomes blocked because of offensive equipment not involved in the game, the ball is ruled dead and the runners are returned to the last base touched at the time of the blocked ball. If the blocked ball prevented the defense from making an out, the runner being played on is called out. |
| Nov. 13, 2017 grayhitter59 Men's 60 345 posts | Thank You for the ruling info on 8.4. as I was trying to explain, the ball was thrown and there was no play that could have been on the runner coming home. the catcher tried to catch the ball but is was so wild that it hit 2 bats that where next to the batters box against the fence, therefore once this happened dead ball should have been called and no runners could advance or have been called out. According to this rule. I think they missed that one, but since I have been known to be too vocal sometimes, I was not allowed to state the facts and I knew the rule. |
| Nov. 13, 2017 stick8 1991 posts | Grayhitter, This is why in USSSA, our former UIC Rick Roberson couldn't stress enough to get players in the dugout or behind the fence and bats in the dugout. On deck batter only allowed outside the dugout. And he better be alert In conference usssa it's done different. Two on deck batters allowed along with the bucket bats are put in. In getting players and bats in the dugout this is actually doing both teams a favor in hopefully preventing a situation as you describe. However I had a play two years ago. USSSA C nit. Man on second, 2 outs. Base hit to right field. Runner is trying to score, throw from right is up the third base line and hits the on deck batter on the ankle. Dead ball, lead runner is out. So in your situation that I can tell, the ump made the right call. Not sure about how it works in senior ball. Perhaps BJ can elaborate on that. He's very knowledgeable on the ssusa rule book |
