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Discussion: tournament brackets

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April 13, 2018
big unit
15 posts
tournament brackets
why does it take so long for ssusa to put the brackets out, this is ridiculous!!!!! they only have 50 teams in this tournaments, I only live 3 hours from VA Beach trying to determine weather I have to come down on Thursday night or Friday morning.i call they tell me to be ready to play at 8am,the last time I went to ssusa tournament we didn't play til 4pm,they have no consideration at all for the senior players !!! this why we only play a couple ssusa tournament a year so we can goto vegas. don't they ever wonder why isssa has 120 team in there tournaments !!!
April 13, 2018
DaveDowell
Men's 65
2861 posts
Here's an update for you big (?) unit ... There are two games at 9:00 AM in the 60-Silver (AAA/AA) division on Friday at the Tidewater ... Nobody else plays before 10:30 AM ... Come on down Friday morning and join the festivities ... Will likely publish sometime tomorrow (Saturday) .. The Master Plan is complete and the detail schedules are in preparation ... I do these in the chronological order the tournaments start ... Finished up documentation, rosters and shipping to Las Vegas mid-afternoon today and am on to VB ... A couple of other possibly relevant observations, then (maybe) I'll get back to it this evening ... You appear to have some difficulty distinguishing between when you WANT something as opposed to when you may actually NEED it ... And we DO wonder on occasion why ISSA tournaments aren't a lot larger than 120 ... We have five that are above 175 annually, three of those are over 200, one of which was 612 teams last year ... [shrug] ...

April 13, 2018
Benji4
228 posts
I'm curious. Do people actually need a week or so notice to figure out if they are going to drive 3 hours on a Thursday night or Friday morning?
April 14, 2018
missouridave
Men's 60
162 posts
Benji,the reason it is important to some people is whether or not they need to get a hotel room. For some folks that is an expense they would like to avoid if it is not necessary. In this case I agree that not having the brackets posted at least a week in advance is really not a good practice. I like DD and I know he is a one man show, but there is really no reason from a customer standpoint that they should not be done a week before a tourney. Just my two cents worth.
April 14, 2018
DaveDowell
Men's 65
2861 posts
missouridave ... I miss the good old days where the seeding schedules and brackets were handed out at the Manager Meeting the evening before the event began! ... Times have changed for sure, with this internet thing that's likely to stick around a while! ... But in this case, an anonymous rant for publishing six rather than seven days in advance perfectly illustrates the "WANT" vs. "NEED" to know argument ... It was a free cheap shot, and he took it, despite another thread on this topic where a courteous request was met with an informative response ... Carry on!

April 14, 2018
PoollShark
Men's 50
88 posts
Dave, when teams have to be registered 3 weeks in advance you have all the info you need to create a schedule. Just playing devils advocate here as I do appreciate what you do.
April 14, 2018
DaveDowell
Men's 65
2861 posts
Thanks, PoolShark ... It was a three-week entry deadline lead-time for the Southwest, but only about 11 days for Tidewater ... We extended the original Tidewater deadline to allow teams that had intended to play in the canceled Frederick, MD, event to come to Virginia Beach (and a few did) ... Point noted, but it still comes back to the "WANT" vs. "NEED" to know problem! ... Six vs. seven days lead time is a difference without a distinction ...

April 14, 2018
missouridave
Men's 60
162 posts
DD I stand corrected. I counted the number of days prior to the tourney in error. As usual, you are correct. You have always been very fair and reasonable with me and I try to be respectful when I ask for any kind of assistance from you. Carry on! From one of the posters on this board who is not hiding his identity.
April 14, 2018
DaveDowell
Men's 65
2861 posts
No worries, Dave ... You remain one of the "good guys" here! ... It's a moot point anyways, the schedules are posted ... Just as background, the "general rule" is that we have a three-week entry deadline lead time for events where we expect more than 100 teams, and two weeks for less than that threshold ... That extra week is much more important for the eligibility and roster-check people than for me, but until they finish, I don't have a completely accurate divisional rating breakout upon which to proceed ...

April 15, 2018
Benji4
228 posts
Dave

GSL, USSSA, ASA and even law Enforcement give you the schedule the Thursday before the tournament.

So an excellent job by you and your staff to get it out a week in advance.

JOB WELL DONE.

Carry on.
April 15, 2018
softball4b
Men's 65
1119 posts
FYI Most courts tell you to appear on a certain date. You have no idea if you are first on the morning docket or afternoon. Not that I have been to court much. Wait is my profile public?

riada ekim
April 15, 2018
DaveDowell
Men's 65
2861 posts
riada ekim ... Here's the general advice we give over the phone ... "..Plan your travel as though you will be playing in the first game on the first day, typically at 8:00 AM, and will be fortunate to win the "If" game on the last day, typically scheduled for 3:30 PM, but sometimes a bit later due to Championship Day schedule slippage.." ... That travel approach works every time and you won't miss a game ... Any other arrival/departure maneuvering is at the traveler's risk ...
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