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| April 23, 2018 West Coast Mayhem #00 Men's 50 21 posts | Stealing other teams Softballs For those of you who STEAL other teams softballs and blacken out their name and then write your name on them, you are nothing but a LOW LIFE THIEF!!! I am not going to mention team names because they know who they are, but a team threw in 2 balls that had our name blacken out. Only a thief is too stupid to know better. I purchased 3 dozen balls this past weekend in Vegas and returned home with only 5. There is really nothing Senior Softball can do but maybe enforce that if a ball has what appears to be a named blacken out, that it be determined illegal to use. I must give props to those of you that returned balls to the check-in table. Thank you!!! Please, if you find another teams ball, it can be turned into the SSUSA table and they will make sure it gets returned to the proper owner. For those of you that do not know the law and also for those who do not care, I truly hope I can make the last part of the sentence come true for those who decide take what is not yours. Any person shall feloniously take, steal and carry away any personal property of another under the value of Five Hundred Dollars ($500.00), he shall be guilty of petit larceny and, upon conviction, shall be punished by imprisonment in the county jail not exceeding six (6) months or by fine not exceeding One Thousand Dollars ($1,000.00), or both. |
| April 23, 2018 Dbax Men's 65 2100 posts | Agree 100%. And I would add that with the ridiculous entry fees we pay, new balls should be provide for all teams, for every game. |
| April 23, 2018 Chief144 Men's 70 160 posts | Dbax, ALL teams are given 6 balls for each tournament & if you play more than 6 games you are given a new ball for each game. Many teams like to have more than that & that's ok, but you have buy them. The gates between the fields at BLD that could be left open were open to allow teams to get HR balls. The balls that were returned to the table were put in a box for teams to get. Kudos to the maint guys who retrieved a lot of balls!!! Agree 100% also about taking some other teams balls!!! |
| April 23, 2018 Dbax Men's 65 2100 posts | Oh.......never mind. |
| April 24, 2018 raiderman66 77 posts | Count yourself lucky as you could be playing down in Florida in the Half Century association. They use the worst Trump Stote ball and to make it worse they only provide 1-2 balls per game for both teams. You cannot buy any new balls to use nor will they provide anymore new balls. When you bring up the idea to allow teams to buy new balls to use in games these old geezers look at you like you just stole their SS check.... |
| April 25, 2018 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | how about going and retrieving your hr balls in a timely manner......many a time i have took a tour of the complexes after the days done and guess what....many balls still out there....mmmm....or the field we are on has balls still there when we go to retrieve ours..(teams that played before us in the day)......so guess what....i get to fill my practice bucket.... |
| April 25, 2018 DaveDowell Men's 70 4312 posts | mad dog ... You appear to be mentioning an often-ignored rulebook provision that's been in the book for decades ... Thanks for the public reminder ... §9.5 • RETRIEVING HOME RUN SOFTBALLS Each team shall be required to retrieve its home run softballs. The softball shall be retrieved in a prompt manner and returned to the umpire... |
| April 25, 2018 grayhitter59 Men's 60 345 posts | i agree with Mad Dog, you leave them behind you lose them. |
| April 25, 2018 grayhitter59 Men's 60 345 posts | It's not stealing if you don't go get them. |
| April 25, 2018 West Coast Mayhem #00 Men's 50 21 posts | Dave, Not to question your authority, but that rule applies if SSUSA is supplying the balls. There is no penalty if I decide not to retrieve my own softballs in a prompt manner as long as I have plenty of backups, If you count someone stealing them as a penalty, then yes, I am being penalized. grayhitter59 & mad dog, I was waiting for someone to make that kind of comment. I do go retrieve my softballs almost every inning, but there are times I cannot go until the end of the game. I don't always find everyone of them for different reasons. If I am out there and I find other teams softballs, I either turn them in to SSUSA table or if I know the team, I will give it to them directly the next time I see them. If you find abandoned balls, why would you not turn them into SSUSA? They will make sure the team gets there softballs back. It doesn't make it right to throw them in your practice bucket. If you go retrieve your HR balls and see a bike that looks abandoned, then later that night you go back there again and the bike is still there and you take it, would that be considered stealing if the real owner saw you with it the next day or month? No, chances are you will pay the penalty for taking it. |
| April 25, 2018 DaveDowell Men's 70 4312 posts | WCM#00 ... That's partially correct (and no feeling of questioning authority here/fair observations all around) ... We supply the first half-dozen to the teams, and a "freebie" for each game after a team has played six ... The rule really just requires teams to feed the opposing pitcher (through the umpire) with the official tourney softballs they are going to hit ... The rule authorizes teams to buy balls if they don't want to retrieve them ... It's a simple "you hit 'em, you git 'em" program, unless you prefer to buy ... What we don't do, is act like this is a golf driving range with buckets of balls for teams to pound into the next county without regard to cost ... The rule is simply intended to provide an incentive to retrieve ... That being said, stealing another teams softballs is NEVER acceptable, period ... |
| April 26, 2018 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | to me any ball left after your game is open range balls......if your to lazy to go get them.....don't blame anyone for losing them....everyone else does it.........like i said i will go around the fields after the days done..and any ball left is a freebie as the org team feels they don't need to go chase their hr balls or out of play.....don't expect someone else to do your job of retrieving the balls.....and as for returning them to dave and his staff....welll most times by then they are gone home(after games done for the day)....and why should we burden them for storing your balls b/c you didn't want to go get them....... |
| April 26, 2018 softball4b Men's 70 1248 posts | Damn I am going to have to throw all of my batting practice balls away or do a better job of marking out Steve Imlay's name. |
| April 26, 2018 k man Men's 65 326 posts | You learn something new everyday. I didn't know that after 6 games you were entitled to a freebie for each game over 6, so at VA Beach the IF game was our 7th game. I guess you have to ask for it. Cal, you owe me one lol On the retrieving HR balls, I remember a team several years ago that would pay the kids/grandkids who attended a game $1 for each HR ball they would retrieve. There's more than one way to skin a cat. |
| April 26, 2018 Pa 40 posts | Mayhem #00 does go after his home run balls or others on the team and he always picks up other teams and returns them i also go after home run balls and i have given them to Mayhem #00 to return the balls to the other teams i picked up because for one he knows them. Mayhem #00 i have a separated shoulder and am getting it worked on don`t know how i lasted this long. |
| April 27, 2018 BallPlayer35 Men's 60 18 posts | I have not had the pleasure of meeting WCM #00, but I do know his name is Kevin B. I saw him play in Vegas a couple of years ago and when I mentioned him in a post about his hitting, everyone commented on what a great teammate, player and all that he brings to the sportsmanship of the game. I don't care how long you've been playing or what age group, but maybe some of us older guys can learn from the younger guys as to what is right & wrong. It is not okay to take other teams balls if they do not belong to you. Comments were made that, well the team is already gone. What! you keep track of every team and there whereabouts? Maybe they had 3 games back to back and did not get a chance to retrieve their HR's until they had a break or were through for the night. It's not always about being lazy and it does not make it right because everyone else does it? NO! If you do not want to burden yourself with returning it, than leave it, even if you think the team is gone. It you decide to take it, then it is STEALING! Kevin, I commend you for bringing this up. It is wrong no matter how you look at it. If we all returned each others balls to the rightful owner, we would not have to continue to purchase balls every weekend. |
| April 27, 2018 grayhitter59 Men's 60 345 posts | Ok let me get this straight, first if during a game which my team is playing I am retrieving our home run softballs I find softballs from the team we are playing against I will return them. But if I am out in the woods or sometimes swamp and I find balls of teams that have played earlier in the day and have gone home and did not pick them up because they did not want to get there feet dirty, I am sorry that ball is going to my BP bucket. The same way is I don't want to get my feet wet they can keep my balls. just remember we live in Florida and play in the south, a lot of fields with deep bushes and water behind them. |
| April 28, 2018 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | Softball4b-you had better be careful about admitting you might have even one of Imlay's balls. He is very protective of the 250 that he brings to every tournament for BP. However, I can tell you we ALL appreciate the fact that he goes the extra mile to provide a screen and the balls for BP. Back a couple years ago we were in Bullhead and hitting at that little baseball field on the way to the fields. Over the right field fence was the river- about 600 feet from home plate but bare hard dirt and downhill. When I got up he yelled 'Move over Webbie'. I didn't, thinking there was no way I could hit one there. But I did. Steve was incensed that I had lost a ball in the river and to this day I have a new nickname-'Move Over Webbie'. |
| April 30, 2018 grayhitter59 Men's 60 345 posts | I don't believe it's stealing if you just don't care enough to go and pick them up yourself. If you drop a dollar on the ground and watch it fly away and don't bother to go after it. why should anyone bring it to you. specially if you are at home drinking a beer. my 2 cents. |
| April 30, 2018 DaveDowell Men's 70 4312 posts | Manny ... This moral issue is going to turn on the timing and overall circumstances, as several have mentioned ... It's totally a subjective matter as to when an "un-retrieved" ball becomes an "abandoned" ball ... But you can avoid the issue completely by returning softballs marked with another team's name to the Director table ... Maybe even make a deal with the Director that you can have any unclaimed softballs at the end of the tournament ... For me, I'm not interested in shipping them back to Sacramento and we would make that deal quickly! ... |
