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Aug. 18, 2018 bogie Men's 65 448 posts | Question for Dave/ SSUSA Staff..I have a 30oz senior bat and want a 28oz endload, can you send to manufacturer to change?and be legal 30 oz Demarini one..Can I send back to DeMarini, too heavy and request it being reloaded to a 28oz. is this legal or considered altering? thank you. |
Aug. 19, 2018 Fred S Men's 85 297 posts | Good luck on having that done. IMO that would be tampering but who would know. |
Aug. 19, 2018 DaveDowell Men's 70 4312 posts | bogie ... We'll look into it and let you know, but the request does pose interesting theory/legality questions ... Having it done in the DeMarini manufacturing facility by them is a plus ... Presumably, they wouldn't do anything that would cause any of their bats to fail technical specifications ... But as Fred S infers, having it done at all to create a bat that's not readily available to the buying public could a minus ... Hold up on this until we can get back to you with guidance ... Thanks for asking ahead of time! ... |
Aug. 20, 2018 msw4indy 25 posts | I can only share my experience. Monsta has a re-weighing program that you can send you bat in to change the weight but only to a weight that that particular model was made in. I had a bat changed with no issues. If Demarini is willing to do that it could only be made in weights that model was made in but not change, for instance, a balanced bat to an endloaded one as that does not conform to that model as it was manufactured. I have not ever heard of a major bat company offering this that I can remember. |
Aug. 20, 2018 bogie Men's 65 448 posts | thanks Dave..if a guy breaks an endcap, might be a similar question..As msw4indy points out, would have to be stock setup..just never say question asked...thank you. |
Aug. 21, 2018 DaveDowell Men's 70 4312 posts | Thanks bogie ... The "breaking an end cap" situation is a bit different ... That's a "repair" in our view and does not change the bat's technical specifications as manufactured ... Your suggested modification ultimately results in a "non-standard" bat ... That's not presumptive of being altered, but does pose the problem of it not being part of DeMarini's normal product line ... Our advice is, respectfully, to pass on requesting that modification ... Thanks! |
Aug. 21, 2018 bogie Men's 65 448 posts | Makes sense and will do...or attempt to beat back 64 years and start swinging a 30 oz...haha..thank you. |
Aug. 22, 2018 southerinman Men's 50 52 posts | I have no idea about getting a bat reweighed but a quick search on eBay found 3-4 different years of Demarini "The One" senior bats listed. Not sure which one your looking for but it's another option if you haven't already checked. |
Aug. 22, 2018 Wayne 37 Men's 65 773 posts | I believe this would for sure be altering of a bat. The reason, you can send it off to a "bat doctor" and they will do the same thing for a fee. I sent an old Miken II off years ago just to see how it would perform. It went from a 27 to 29 ounce and the pop it added was amazing. That guy knew what he doing as far as altering a bat. He was high tech in his approach to the way he did it. |
Aug. 22, 2018 DaveDowell Men's 70 4312 posts | Not a wise idea, Wayne 37, to be publicly stating that you, at least at one time, owned an "altered" bat and maybe still do for all we know ... And the "endorsement" of the bat-doctor isn't helping your image, either ... |
Aug. 22, 2018 OZ40 549 posts | I once sent a Dudley back to the manufacturer to replace the endcap which broke in half and flew off during BP. I posted about that on this forum. I would figure that this is similar to a new car. Return to the dealer during the warranty period for repairs or you void out the warranty. That said, if all the shell thicknesses for a certain bat are the same with the only difference being the weighting in the cap I see no difference if the manufacturer uses factory standard operating procedures to change the weight for you. As a matter of fact, I seem to remember something about Demarini offering bats made to your specifications maybe a year ago?? |
Aug. 22, 2018 TimMcElroy 942 posts | A week ago, Wayne 37 started a thread on Umpire Etiquette. Here is a quote from that thread ".... at the end of game, walk off the field knowing that you gave your best effort." My best effort doesn't include altering bats. My best effort doesn't include putting others in danger. My best effort doesn't include breaking rules that, as an umpire, I've agreed to enforce. My best effort doesn't include cheating the senior game. It is disappointing to know that your best effort includes all of these things, Wayne 37. |
Aug. 22, 2018 B.J. 1105 posts | lmao I can't wait to hear this answer.. |
Aug. 22, 2018 Nancy Allen Men's 55 1438 posts | For someone who thinks that he is above the rules as written and negotiated because he is smarter than all of us and knows the intent better than the authors, this is priceless. For the record, he has not guessed my intent right one time so far. |
Aug. 22, 2018 SSUSA Staff 3485 posts | We're going to close this thread ... It was started as a good faith inquiry to prevent problems by a player many (if not ALL who know him) consider to be an exemplary and legendary figure in Senior Softball ... Having it turn into a referendum regarding a self-professed bat cheat who jumped the thread seems somehow inconsistent with the "best interests of senior softball." THREAD CLOSED |