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Dec. 11, 2018
ziemerj
Men's 60
2 posts
Professional Trainer
I'm looking for a professional trainer to help me with elbow issues. Chronic tendonitis from overuse and possible poor mechanics. 68 yrs, looking to extend playing time by retooling throwing mechanics. I'm in SoCal, but can travel
Dec. 12, 2018
Wayne 37
Men's 65
703 posts
Cortisone and physical therapy would be your best bets.
Dec. 12, 2018
mck71
213 posts
Wayne - that advice will help with the pain initially but if his mechanics are off (as he stated), it will come back.

ziemerj - a couple of thoughts 1) did you get a good ortho to look at it (xray/MRI), I am a firm believer in making sure that there is nothing absolutely wrong with it 2) the internet is your friend, there are MANY mechanical throwing videos you can find on YouTube to get you started 3) I am sure if you check out the internet and search on "baseball throwing mechanics in southern cal", I did that and found this one: https://npawest.com/lessons-workouts/

I have had elbow and shoulder surgery, it all takes time to heal and as we get older, time sometimes in NOT our friend but keep a positive attitude and I am sure you will find the help you need.

I will also add that I am NOT a fan of cortisone, really only "masks" the issue and it will eventually come back, I have had MANY shots in shoulders, elbows and even back. I am currently trying cbd oil with hopes that it will help with the chronic arthritis, I have done a lot a research and have heard good things about it.

Good luck ziemerj and happy holidays to all!
Dec. 14, 2018
Wayne 37
Men's 65
703 posts
Tendonitis is pain. Cortisone can work for a long time on occasions. You can take over the counter pain relievers if you want. It will never completely disappear.

I've had shoulder surgery myself. PT can help with your range of motion and more than likely improve your mechanics. Ever so often I have to do PT.

After I had my shoulder cleaned out, I could wing the crap out of the ball pain free. However, I will always have chronic pain until I die.

I don't know the exact situation, but I would at the very least try PT first before I started seeing a personal trainer. A PT can show him the exercises he needs to do. First you need to see an orthodontic doctor to prescribe the therapy. Could be something other than tendonitis.
Dec. 14, 2018
Lecak
Men's 60
1026 posts
Iím a personal trainer I work with seniors. Donít ignore your core. Almost all power moves, and throwing requires power, starts through the core. I define the core as hips, butt, up through the sternum. When you talk with whoever you end up with make sure they train the shoulder girdle. Itís all the bones, ligaments and muscles that control power and range of motion. Also make sure your person allows for adequate rest and recovery. Good luck.
Dec. 15, 2018
ziemerj
Men's 60
2 posts
Thanks for all the positive feedback. Have had 2 cortisone shots with limited success. Just had x-rays and MRI and am waiting for an appt with Ortho/elbow doc.

And of course I found several excellent videos on You Tube. Thanks for that too.

Hate to admit that my wife might have bee right in the first place when she said, "You're playing too much." How is that even possible? But the preliminary diagnosis is Tendonitis Over Use Syndrome.


Thanks again for all the good word.

jZ


Dec. 16, 2018
Webbie25
Men's 65
2271 posts
I recommend Joe Lecak-he does know his stuff.
Dec. 16, 2018
BruceinGa
Men's 70
3188 posts
At Softball Magazine's Senior Camp I attended a presentation by Bob O'Brien, a college pitching coach and, I believe, a sports therapist. He now plays with Team Kitty.
He recommended the shoulder exercises as presented by Dr. Jobe. They can be found with the help of Google.
The presentation was all about not working out Dad (Deltoid) and working out the 4 Kids, Supraspinatus, Infraspinatus, Teres Minor and Subscapularis. (Whew, I'm glad I still have the handouts he gave us.) To see the entire handout you can view it at our league facebook page, Georgia Elite Senior Softball.
The main thought, in my opinion, was don't use over 3 lbs in each hand and do 3 sets up to 30 reps each.
This past year I was diagnosed with a partial tear of the sprespinatus, fraying of the infraspinatus and labral tear. I'm fortunate that this is in my glove shoulder and doesn't affect my swing.
I just finished my second week of doing Dr Jobe's shoulder excercises, every other day and find a decrease in pain and increased movement in my arm.
I would suggest that if you have rotator cuff problems you check into this.
Hi Webbie and Joe!
Dec. 17, 2018
Ozone8
41 posts
Thanks, Bruce, for posting the handout from the Bob O'Brien presentation you attended. Unfortunately I could only view page one as clicking the next page caused a black screen and just kept loading and loading without ever showing. Am I doing something wrong?
Dec. 17, 2018
Ceres
73 posts
Frank Job who devised the Tommy John Surgery for elbows died. Dr. Bernie Morrey
who was a friend of his can give you advise. He spends summers at the Mayo Clinic in
Rochester. Minnesota and winters at his ranch (Elbow Bend) in La Grange, TX. He also helps
his son Dr. Matt Morrey who does orthopedic work in the San Antonio Medical center.

I don't have a phone # handy but maybe you can find him with some phone calls.

When you speak with him tell him you're a softball player and mention me.

Jim Pawlowski
Dec. 17, 2018
BruceinGa
Men's 70
3188 posts
Ozone8, there was only one page.
If you need more info you may want to befriend Bob on Facebook.
Good Luck!!
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