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Discussion: Asa bats

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Oct. 21, 2019
HAT MAN
Men's 40
209 posts
Asa bats
Can someone confirm the asa bat ban that ssusa brought up at the coaches meeting in Vegas at worlds? The way I understood it was that the new asa bats were hotter then senior bats and cannot be used in ssusa. Question is, are there new models only? Is the same asa stamp used? What changed from last year to this year?
Purpose for me is to follow ssusa ban at home whe I'm league director. Currently we allow asa/usssa new stamp bats.
Just trying to know how to enforce this.

Vinny
Oct. 21, 2019
lb16
Men's 50
160 posts
Not sure what was brought up in vegas meeting, but the ASA bats are not hotter than SSUSA bats. The reason SSUSA won't allow them is because the aren't stamped with a BPF rating. That's the only reason you can't swing them in SSUSA events. These bats are lower than 1.20 BPF but aren't stamped as such.
Oct. 21, 2019
HAT MAN
Men's 40
209 posts
Lb
One way or another I don't plan on using an asa bar for seniors. I just want to follow up because I go to world meeting every year and its the first time mentioned it. So I trust their judgment and if they are that hot I don't need them at league. I also need a plan for my umpires to enforce it uniformly.

Vinny
Oct. 21, 2019
ETDave
31 posts
I've used my old ASA Easton Extended in a few tournaments, but is it clearly stamped 1.20.
Oct. 21, 2019
DaveDowell
Men's 65
2840 posts
HAT MAN and lb16 ... The "next generation" of ASA bats are not approved for SSUSA use solely because they are tested and certified differently than non-ASA "Senior Bats" ... The newer ASA bats are tested with the ASA bat/ball specification, which is not the .44 cor/375 comp ball specification in use by SSUSA ... There is NO other reason, and any assertion to the contrary is both false and misleading, at best ... Thanks for asking ...
Oct. 21, 2019
HAT MAN
Men's 40
209 posts
Dave
Thanks for getting back so quick.
When it was said at thr meaning that they were hotter then senior bats it threw me for a loop. Wasn't until after when talking with another coach I thought I should follow up.

Thanks again
Vinny
Oct. 21, 2019
DaveDowell
Men's 65
2840 posts
Vinnie ... When it was said "they are hotter", that wasn't clearly explained ... The newer ASA bats are NOT hotter when tested with the ASA ball specification, but they ARE if the SSUSA ball specification is used in the testing ... ASA and SSUSA both (correctly) are testing their approved bats with their own differing ball, which is as it should be ...
Oct. 21, 2019
HAT MAN
Men's 40
209 posts
Perfect,easily understood explanation
Thanks again Dave.
Thread can be deleted to avoid the internet bully posts lol

Vinny
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