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Discussion: Price gouging

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Oct. 26, 2019
Full Count
9 posts
Price gouging
Suncoast bats are priced way too high. Just because you're the only vendor It's not good business to price gouge.
They do not honor discounts on the website.
Is free speech allowed here ?

Oct. 26, 2019
DaveDowell
Men's 65
2751 posts
Free speech is absolutely allowed here ... Mean spirited, anonymous, inflammatory and reckless accusations that border on libel are not ... Your prior post met all four of those criteria and was, accordingly, deleted by me as the Message Board moderator ... You did (marginally) better this time ...
Oct. 26, 2019
Full Count
9 posts
Your accusations are worse than mine Dave. You weren't there, I reporting the facts and only the facts exactly how it happened.
Robert Overholt
Oct. 26, 2019
DaveDowell
Men's 65
2751 posts
I didnt make any accusations. They were simple statements of fact explaining why your intital post on this topic was killed. You have apparently eliminated the anonymous nature, but the other three reasons remain valid. Post responsibly and we provide a lot of latitude. For those who don't, not so much so. We're OK this time around (so far).
Oct. 28, 2019
r4pitch
78 posts
full count its america just dont buy.....Suncoast has been nothing but great for softball..Dont forget you get a warranty also...
Oct. 28, 2019
MurrayW
Men's 65
155 posts
Yeah, what r4pitch said. No one is forcing you to buy one of their bats and the free market will let them know if they are pricing them too high. There are lots of bats out there to choose from so it is not like they are a monopoly and the only vendor you can buy from.

As someone who cracked about 10 bats this year, I would be willing to pay more for a bat with a warranty. It would be like getting a two for one deal.
Oct. 28, 2019
Wood_1966
Men's 50
87 posts
Maybe I am missing something, but is $249 really price gouging for a really good, fairly durable, senior bat with a 60 day warranty? I do not think so, I think it is actually right in line!
Oct. 29, 2019
Cowboy19
Men's 60
40 posts
Great points by the 3 posts above. I got a chance to use the Suncoast end load over the weekend. It will be my bat of choice for a long time. They have definitely done it right.
Oct. 29, 2019
JamesLG
393 posts

Cowboy19, Did you hit the 13" EL or 12"? Is the 12" the same barrel length as last years red Adidas? I am going to get one but just can't decide which one.

Thanks:

James
Oct. 29, 2019
Cowboy19
Men's 60
40 posts
The red 1 ounce end load 12. Very similar to the 2019 red one, but better if you can imagine that. Call me if you need more info. 612-867-5006
Oct. 29, 2019
Whitey58
28 posts
The Red Suncoast Melee Max 12" is a 1/2 ounce Endload The 13" Green one is 1/2 ounce End load I have the Red one and feel it is the best Melee yet. The price is higher because the first batch of bats for Vegas were air freighted over here and the new China Tariff cost all of us more.
Oct. 29, 2019
JamesLG
393 posts

So is the new red Suncoast bat the same barrel length as last years red Adidas? If so that will be the one I will get. If it is not I will probably go with the green one. I head they swing a little light. I currently rotate between a 27 and 28oz.

Thanks
Oct. 30, 2019
DaveDowell
Men's 65
2751 posts
Interesting how the Karma Gods work ... A lone "Complaint Department" post turns into a glowing "Infomercial" product endorsement ... You can't make this stuff up! ...
Oct. 30, 2019
Cowboy19
Men's 60
40 posts
Yes Whitney 1/2 end load on those two bats. James the red Suncoast and the 2019 adidas red bat are both 12 barrels. I think the Suncoast swings a little lighter than the 2019 model. Might be because of the thiner handle.
Nothing but love on this string Dave.
Nov. 7, 2019
Saratoga2
16 posts
I'm a little confused about who really makes the new Melee Suncoasts. I assume it is made for Adidas somewhere in China and Suncoast gave them some particular specifications to meet, like the tacified barrel and the thinner handle. Otherwise, I assume it is very like the 2019 Adidas Melee. I was unable to get any real confirmation of this by searching the internet. Dave Velazquez website indicates he thinks highly of the 3 models.
Nov. 10, 2019
Saratoga2
16 posts
I had a discussion with Suncoast about the Melee bats. Adidas got out of the bat business and Sun Coast took over production using the same manufacturer as Adidas but made changes such that the 2019 Adidas red melee now has a thinner handle and also has a tackified barrel. The barrel section is the same as the 2019 Adidas. The list price is now $249. I don't know what, if any, discount is available for the bat.
Nov. 10, 2019
JAB
9 posts
Question about Suncoast red 12" vs green 13" barrels EL
-both bats are 34" total length
-the "sweet spot" on both barrels is the same length (I'm not sure but, perhaps 6")
-so is the sweet spot on the green 13" located closer to the barrel head?
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Nov. 10, 2019
mck71
213 posts
JAB - I read and reread this thread, didn't see where anyone said that the sweet spots for 12 and 13 in bats were BOTH 6 inches? Usually not the case, I know it's not the same for the 2018 Melee's (I have both 12 and 13 in) so assume that is probably not true but I have been wrong before! (and of course doesn't mean it isn't a good bat, can't wait to swing them! :-)
Nov. 12, 2019
JAB
9 posts
Mck71
So, what are the benefits (other than personal preference ) of the 12 in vs the 13 in? Im 73 but only playing senior softball the past four yrs and trying to educate myself on the 1.21 bats. I currently swing the 2019 red melee 12 in. I have two, one is great, the other not so great. I recently held the suncoast EL and liked the feel especially the thinner handle but not sure of differences between the 12 in vs 13 in. Your thoughts?
Nov. 13, 2019
mck71
213 posts
JAB - personally (and there are better/smarter people than I on this board to explain it), the 12", while having a smaller sweet spot, goes through the zone a little quicker once you get it going (more mass at the end of the barrel) and therefore when you hit the sweet spot, ball will travel a little farther (at least for me it does). The issue I have is that I am not consistent with hitting that sweet spot so I carry both in my bag depending on how lousy I am swinging that day! LOL

I will add that I usually practice with a 12" to work on being more consistent, have only started hitting these recently (past year). The way I figure it if I can hit the 12" in bp then even if I switch to my 13" I should be ok (and better chance to hit the bigger sweet spot), might be just out in front a little. At least that is what I tell myself! :-)

Hope this helps.
Nov. 14, 2019
Saratoga2
16 posts
When I compare my 2019 red Melee (end load) to my older one piece 12 inch Melee (orange lettering) I note a slight difference in barrel length, with the red Melee a little longer. The barrel lenght is more likely to determine the length of sweet spot as long as the manufacture is done in the same way. The loading on the other hand is likely to determine how far the bat will hit, assuming the same bat speed through the zone. That is the question for most seniors. Can you swing the higher moment of inertia bat as fast? The answer is in the rresults.
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