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Discussion: Suncoast/Adidas bats

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Nov. 15, 2019
L.S.
2 posts
Suncoast/Adidas bats
Can anyone tell me how much of a difference between the new Suncoast senior balance and the last year or two of the Adidas balance bats? I know there’s a price difference but how about performance? And input will help with my decision. Thanks
Nov. 15, 2019
grayhitter59
Men's 55
250 posts
they added the stick stuff, some what like the original dudley had.

They called it grip technology.
Nov. 17, 2019
SALSAKID49
Men's 55
146 posts
Got one from Trotter.. a 28oz Green barrel 13"...
it is one of the better newer full load SR. bats, it breaks in very quickly after 100 BP hits with a very good pop/distance Good full load feel I don't feel the ball coming off the bat... right there with the mid load Worth AT18 28oz Just IMHO...
Nov. 19, 2019
Mr Wolf
18 posts
I had a compression test on my Melee Max 12”. It had about less than 200 hits. It tested at 1250.
Nov. 19, 2019
JamesLG
393 posts
What is considered a real good compression test number?

Thanks
James
Nov. 20, 2019
Mr Wolf
18 posts
JamesLG, considering my Melee Max 12” EL that has less than 200 hits and my Adidas 12” EL has a whole bunch of laser shots and its number is 1150. I would think 1250 is a decent number with room for the possibility. Lesser the number, the hotter. Both bats on the compression test were in the red zone.
Go to YouTube and find David Velasquez’s compression test on several bats to actually understand the test.
Dec. 8, 2019
NYTX
Men's 60
40 posts
Was curious if anyone has any updates to share on the 13 inch end load Suncoast bat? Someone who I trust told me he had heard there were cases of the end caps popping off the 13 inch green end load bat - has anyone had this experience? Does anyone have a comparison of the 12 inch end load versus the 13 inch end load?
Thanks.
Dec. 9, 2019
Casey#44
15 posts
I have a few swings on both. About 20 on the 12inch and 10 or so on the 13 inch and I can say, so far, so good. I generally prefer a 13 but I am liking the 12 a bit more at this point. The are both pretty hot and neither is even close break-in. Both are hotter than last years models.
No negatives to report.

I will say that they are lighter than advertised. My 27.5 is around 27.1 with the tape still on it. The 28 is about 27.5 with the tape still on as well.
Dec. 10, 2019
Lefty
Men's 70
692 posts
I had the red one and it hit great. My hitting buddy bought the green 13 inch 280z in Vegas.
It has between 100 to 125 live pitching swings. This bat fits my swing. Great pop and great distance for my age. All senior bats are great. It's to get the bat that you swing well.
Joe Falcon
2014 65M SSUSA Champs
Dec. 10, 2019
DirkPitt
7 posts
I recently purchased the 13" end load, 28oz. I have been swinging the 27oz green Melee for a few years. I'm on my 6th of these green end-load Melee bats in the last two years (they break). I have found the last two "batches" of these bats are not as good as the prior versions and have been looking for another bat.

I tried the prior 2-piece Adidas bats and didn't like any of them. I also don't see too many of the top hitters I play with/against swinging the older 2-piece Adidas bats (major/major+).

This newer 13" model seems more comparable to the older Melee and I've been pleased with it after about 100-150 swings. It's nowhere near opened up yet and I've yet to find any bat that is "hot out of the wrapper." This bat does seem to be getting better at a faster clip than my older Melee's so I'd say I'm pleased. If this one doesn't work out though, I'm done with Adidas/Suncoast bats.
Dec. 10, 2019
grayhitter59
Men's 55
250 posts
DirkPitt, I just got my Suncoast 13 inch endloaded 28oz last week, I am recovering from hip surgery (9-19-19) first time swinging in 3 months. On my third swing using 44/375 softball I cleared 300ft fence, can you say hot out of wrapper.

I was never a fan of 2 piece, I got over that pretty quick. I am a fan of the Suncoast bat.

MQ
60 major player.
Dec. 10, 2019
DirkPitt
7 posts
I am also hitting them over the fence with the new Suncoast bat but switching to the Melee in the same batting session consistently results in a gain of 25-50+ feet in distance. Mishits with the Melee are also more forgiving and powerful and that is with a 12" barrel. I'm confident the new Suncoast is going to get better but I still say I personally don't see hot out of the wrapper.

Anyway, glad to hear the recovery is going well.
Dec. 10, 2019
grayhitter59
Men's 55
250 posts
Thank You for the well wishes, Happy Holidays to you and yours and a great 2020 softball year to all.
Dec. 11, 2019
Dusty-3
11 posts
Interesting opinions on the two new end loaded Suncoast bats. I had a brief opportunity to swing both recently (no more than ten swings each) so I can't offer too much regarding the end loaded. What I am wondering is whether anyone has swung the balanced version (black/white) and can provide any insight? Thanx in advance and Happy Holidays!
Dec. 12, 2019
lb16
Men's 50
157 posts
Dusty-3 I have a 27 oz. Suncoast balanced version. My review for now is limited as I am not taking full cuts as of yet I had rotator cuff repair on shoulder in August. I have took 15-20 light swings with mine with the wrapper still on and bat feels great. I will post more on it when I am able to take full swings. I believe performance is going to be top notch just concerned about how long it will last right now.
Dec. 12, 2019
mck71
213 posts
Dusty - recently went to the softball magazine senior camp where we were able to hit all new bats. I am an end loaded guy personally but the white balanced Suncoast was the best bat I swung all weekend. I did like the 12 inch red one from Suncoast, blue Dudley Nifong and the AT12 from Worth from an end loaded perspective (missed swing the JB12 for some reason). Balls they use there are not the best but they were all the same so at least that was a good measuring stick. There are a LOT of good bats out there this year, just depends on your swing preference.

As for performance lb16, these bats were available for all campers (over 100) and have to assume there were at LEAST 500 cuts put on each bat there, especially the Suncoast since a lot of people wanted to test them (they were all new in the wrapper Thursday am and each had about 50 put on them before we could swing any of them). My buddy bought a white and a green 13 inch, I didn't because they have a 60 day warranty and I wont be swinging again until March so didn't make sense to me (and they are supposed to come out with a 1 piece in 2020 and I prefer 1 piece).

Happy holidays to all!
Dec. 13, 2019
G MAN
Men's 55
18 posts
Bought the new suncoast red 27.5 end load and the bat feels really heavy now . Then someone let me just swing 26.5 and it still felt heavy. I think the 25.5 would be the way to go for me . I normally swing a 27 . Anyone feel the bat feels heavy ?
Dec. 15, 2019
Dusty-3
11 posts
Thanx Gentlemen for the opinions. I too am inclined to wait for March/April to purchase a Suncoast (IF I decide to step away from Dudley) as our weather here in the Great Northwest is pretty marginal temperature wise to be hitting $250 bats! Our hitting club gets new model bats occasionally but it's hard to tell with these temperatures.
lb16, best of luck with the recovery. I've had both shoulder rotator cuffs repaired, one major surgery and the other arthroscopy. No fun!!!
Dec. 15, 2019
Mr Wolf
18 posts
Hey G-man, that Melee Max 12” 25.5oz. is the lightest feeling endload I ever experienced. It’s lighter feeling than the Adidas 2-piece EL with the comparable weight but not by much.
Dec. 15, 2019
Mr Wolf
18 posts
Hey G-MAN, I forgot to add, swinging the Melee Max 12” 25.5oz feels exactly comparable to the 2015 Miken Senior Ultra2 EL 26oz. 2-piece. Hopefully, that helps you to zero in to the correct bat for your swing.
Swinging a 27oz and I assume that’s an EL. Endloads are very tricky because bat manufacturers could have different weight distribution in the barrel and handle. That’s why I mentioned the Miken Ultra2 Senior 2-piece bat.
Dec. 27, 2019
G MAN
Men's 55
18 posts
Mr. Wolf , Thanks for your help. I rushed to buy the Suncoast bat and I normally swing a 27/28oz but this Red Suncoast is a very heavy 27.5 and it feels very heavy in the middle of the bat Its not for me but I will try the 25.5 at some point. I do like the THIN handle !

Jan. 7, 2020
OVBALL
11 posts
G MAN please text or e-mail me....wanna ask a few questions
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Jan. 27, 2020
Gonedeep43
69 posts
Any reason why there isn't a 1.21 Stamp on the Suncoast Bat? This Weekend we played in a USA tournament and they wouldn't allow any Suncoast BBats in the tournament due to not having the 1.21 stamp.
Jan. 27, 2020
raiderman66
58 posts
Gonedeep, unless the tournament wasn't a senior tournament then the TD was oblivious. The bats have been out for months and used everywhere. So unless the tournament wasn't a senior tournament, the director must be clueless and needs to do a better job.
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