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| Dec. 3, 2019 Sisavic 190 posts | Opinions on being called out of the batters box - Continued I'm not sure why but I had to start a new discussion because I couldn't add a comment to the original post. Tim - seldom do games in the older brackets combine for 30+ runs. My team came in 2nd place in Phoenix playing 7 games and the average runs scored was less than 25. There were two 1-run games and one 3-run games. Every run counts. One of our players was called out of the box twice. He is an All Tournament player and it could be argued that these outs were the difference between 1st or 2nd place. In addition place hitting is more important, at least in the older division, and more players try to hit the opposite field (including me) and hitting to the opposite side often requires stepping forward to hit an above-the-waist pitch. Baseball and fast pitch batters seldom stride as they swing (except slap hitters) while many or most senior players stride. In fact New Yorkers, like me, learned to hit softballs in Central Park using the "New York 3-step" approach and there also is the "Chicago 4-step." My opinion: we may have made a mistake when we introduced the mat and did not change the batter's box at that time. Without the mat the midpoint of the plate is the midpoint of the batter's box. The box would have to be moved (or enlarged)about 6+ inches to have it centered. I watched a professional slowpitch tournament a year ago and wondered why the batters never swung at a bad pitch? Then I realized that they never faced that dastardly two-strike pitch that hits the front of our mat! |
| Dec. 4, 2019 STL0 Men's 60 230 posts | Sisavic - While I don't disagree that the box could have been adjusted with the use of the mat and its placement, the bottom line is that batters should pay attention to where they start off at when hitting. If you do that, there's no reason to step out of the box. This is no different than any other rule. You just have to play the game knowing the rule exists and no complaining if you get called out based on the rule. |
| Dec. 7, 2019 Wayne 37 Men's 65 773 posts | I've tried to explain this several times, but some people like to add words to the rule and hurl insults. I still can't find the word outside. But I'm the one who can't speak English. |
| Dec. 7, 2019 B.J. 1105 posts | wayne, without insulting you.. again these 2 rules explaining that a batter is out when a foot is COMPLETELY OUTSIDE the box have been posted multiple times... below I even capitalized the word OUTSIDE in both rules that for some reason you are unable to find ... also the 1st part of rule 7.3 states that a batter "ONLY NEEDS "SOME PORTION OF BOTH FEET" (which could mean ON OR INSIDE THE LINES OF THE BATTERS BOX" which means he is legal if most of his foot is outside of the box 7.3 • BATTING POSITION A. The batter must have at least some portion of both feet on or inside the lines of the batter's box at the start of the pitch. A batter who steps out of the batter’s box at any time during the pitch and then hits the ball, fair or foul, shall be called out. Steps out means touching the ground completely "OUTSIDE" of the lines of the batter’s box. (See §1.5) 7.6 • BATTER IS OUT C. When an entire foot is touching the ground completely "OUTSIDE"the lines of the batter's box when he hits a ball fair or foul. (See also §7.3) |
| Dec. 7, 2019 Wayne 37 Men's 65 773 posts | Again, batting position, where does it state partially outside? You've been wrong so many times, I'm not surprised that you don't know this simple rule. Read the rule. It doesn't say ONLY NEEDS SOME PORTION OF BOTH FEET. It clearly states MUST HAVE SOME PORTION OF BOTH FEET ON OR INSIDE THE LINES. Note where the words PARTIALLY OUTSIDE don't appear. I'm beginning to wonder if know what a batter's box is. FYI ~ I've been fully aware of where a batter's feet can be when they make contact with the ball for a very long time. |
| Dec. 7, 2019 B.J. 1105 posts | wayne...since you seem to know all, then answer this question about batting position the rule states that the batter must have at least SOME PORTION of both feet (meaning toes, heels or sides of the feet) ON or INSIDE the lines of the batter's box at the start of the pitch.. so in his batting position the batter is set up with only the toes of both feet touching on the outside part of the BB line then where would the remaining part of his foot be?? hmmm... seems like an easy answer to me...the rest of both feet would be OUTSIDE of the BB at the start of the pitch ..which is legal per the rule |
