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| Jan. 22, 2020 retired2013 Men's 65 6 posts | interference During a double play, the runner going into 2nd base interferes with the throw. Is only that runner out or are both he and the batter runner out? |
| Jan. 22, 2020 Wayne 37 Men's 65 773 posts | Runner and Batter Runner are both declared out. |
| Jan. 22, 2020 retired2013 Men's 65 6 posts | what rule covers this play? |
| Jan. 22, 2020 Wayne 37 Men's 65 773 posts | Don't know exactly, but the runner is out for interfering with throw and batter is declared out due to the interfering of the throw. I'll look it up to see if I can find anything more specific.. |
| Jan. 22, 2020 Wayne 37 Men's 65 773 posts | Look under 8.3 (E) where is says batter/runner is out. |
| Jan. 22, 2020 B.J. 1105 posts | retired.. INTERFERENCE IS NOT an automatic double play as stated above.. a 2nd out can be called "IF" in the umpires judgement a play could have been made.. I posted the rule below... the rule that Wayne stated RULE 8.3E is incorrect this rule pertains to a batter who becomes a runner 8.6 • WHEN SLIDING IS OPTIONAL - AVOIDING COLLISIONS If in the umpire’s judgment the runner fails to avoid a collision with a defensive player involved in the play, the ball will be declared dead and that runner called out. All base runners except the batter will be returned to their previous base unless forced to advance. If in the umpire’s judgment the runner's collision with the defensive player involved in the play negates a double play, the umpire may award a second out. |
| Jan. 22, 2020 B.J. 1105 posts | retired.. I also should have added the 2nd out doesn't necessarily have to be the batter/runner... it could be a runner closer to home if in the umpires judgement a play could have been made... I hope this helps |
| Jan. 22, 2020 Wayne 37 Men's 65 773 posts | You're right I read the rule wrong. need my glasses......however you have the wrong rule yourself. The original post said interferes with a thrown ball. I'm getting two outs here. Sometimes you just have to umpire. PS a batter doesn't become a runner until they legally obtain 1st base. |
| Jan. 22, 2020 B.J. 1105 posts | wayne.. lol... I was wondering what your excuse would be and it seems like you still need your glasses because .. NO the original post didn't say a THROWN BALL.. It said the runner interfered with THE THROW as in bumping the fielder trying to attempt a throw also what I said about the rule you quoted incorrectly and then said that you needed your glasses was that the rule pertained to a batter who becomes a runner as in BATTER RUNNER do CAPITAL LETTERS HELP also... please if you think that I did post an incorrect rule then post the rule that you believe covers the scenario... instead of just guessing |
| Jan. 22, 2020 Wayne 37 Men's 65 773 posts | That's the biggest difference between you and I. I know when I'm wrong and you NEVER do. Doesn't say anything about interfering with the fielder either. When I read throw, I can only assume they meant the ball. Either way I'm still getting the two outs. I'm not a mind reader. I believe it was Mark Twain who said, "No amount of evidence can convince an idiot they're wrong." |
| Jan. 23, 2020 B.J. 1105 posts | wayne.. I've tried to be nice when correcting your posts and yes there is a difference between the 2 of us.... you post what you ASSUME to be correct and we all know the old saying about people who assume... you very seldom post an actual rule.. but you do always complain when you are proven wrong that the SSUSA dropped the ball again or now it's that I misread the rules because I couldn't find my glasses answering umpire questions isn't a judgement call or assuming what the rule is and it shouldn't be this hard ...if you have an answer then POST THE RULE it's that easy |
| Jan. 23, 2020 Wayne 37 Men's 65 773 posts | Like I said, I admit when I'm wrong. Your problem is when you're wrong you won't admit to it because you just don't know any better. You just ASSUME you do and have to hijack every thread with something. Don't like I post, don't reply. Simple as that. (((( RULE 8.3E is incorrect this rule pertains to a batter who becomes a runner.)))) Nope. It pertains to when a batter/runner is out. When the batter puts the ball in play they become a batter/runner and then a runner after they get to 1st base without being put out. FYI ~ They don't have to touch the base either. They are ASSUMED to have acquired 1st base even if they miss the bag. Defense has to appeal the missed base by the RUNNER. There, I've corrected you as nice as possible. |
| Jan. 23, 2020 Nancy Allen Men's 55 1438 posts | Well, you apparently don't understand rule #2 of the message board. First you call BJ a name, and then you attempt belittling him. Those that know him have a lot of respect for him including me. BJ is actually an umpire and UIC; you are neither, and I can understand why. I have friends that say that you pick fights on other rules sites as well over that same subjects. I understand that you only want to fight with people. BJ and I both admit when we are wrong and are always open to learning; you think that you are never wrong but are seldom right. I apologize to anyone else for straying from the subject, but I don't believe in name calling and attempting to bully when people are trying to learn. |
| Jan. 23, 2020 Wayne 37 Men's 65 773 posts | Just so you know, I've intentionally stayed away from here for a good while because of inane ramblings like the above. Don't like what I have say, don't reply. |
| Jan. 23, 2020 B.J. 1105 posts | Well here’s hoping 🤞🏾 that it will happen again |
| Jan. 23, 2020 Wayne 37 Men's 65 773 posts | Ok Boomer |
| Jan. 24, 2020 stick8 1991 posts | Had a play last year. Man on 1st, 1 out. Grounder to short. Shortstop bobbles it, picks it up and throws to second. Barely got the runner out coming in to 2nd. Second baseman went to throw to first but the runner slid into the bag which prevented him from pivoting and executing a throw. The defense wanted interference but I didn’t give it to them. A runner has every right to try and achieve the next base. And in this case he was pretty fast and nearly beat the throw. Legal play by the baserunner. |
