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March 3, 2020
Birdman65
Men's 70
16 posts
Corona Virus (COVID-19)
Just thought it would be important that SSUSA management would comment sooner than later with regards to upcoming tournaments, ie. Spring Worlds in Mesquite and St. George. Most of us who will be scheduled to play in Mesquite will stay in high volume people gambling casino hotels. I know we all love to play tournaments but I also know our health and families come first....just saying.
March 3, 2020
SSUSA Staff
2828 posts
Birdman65 ... At this time, SSUSA advises you to take whatever precautions you deem appropriate to safeguard your health from any and all exposure risks, including, but not limited to, any disease risks identified by the the CDC, your state and local medical associations and agencies, and your own Physician ... Thank you ...
March 6, 2020
The real deal
Men's 65
99 posts
From: Dr Jim Robb, Pathologist
Date: February 26, 2020 at 2:35:50 PM EST
Subject: What I am doing for the upcoming COVID-19 (coronavirus) pandemic.
Dear Colleagues, as some of you may recall, when I was a professor of pathology at the University of California San Diego, I was one of the first molecular virologists in the world to work on coronaviruses (the 1970s). I was the first to demonstrate the number of genes the virus contained. Since then, I have kept up with the coronavirus field and its multiple clinical transfers into the human population (e.g., SARS, MERS), from different animal sources.
The current projections for its expansion in the US are only probable, due to continued insufficient worldwide data, but it is most likely to be widespread in the US by mid to late March and April.
Here is what I have done and the precautions that I take and will take. These are the same precautions I currently use during our influenza seasons, except for the mask and gloves.:

1) NO HANDSHAKING! Use a fist bump, slight bow, elbow bump, etc.
2) Use ONLY your knuckle to touch light switches. elevator buttons, etc.. Lift the gasoline dispenser with a paper towel or use a disposable glove.
3) Open doors with your closed fist or hip - do not grasp the handle with your hand, unless there is no other way to open the door. Especially important on bathroom and post office/commercial doors.
4) Use disinfectant wipes at the stores when they are available, including wiping the handle and child seat in grocery carts.
5) Wash your hands with soap for 10-20 seconds and/or use a greater than 60% alcohol-based hand sanitizer whenever you return home from ANY activity that involves locations where other people have been.
6) Keep a bottle of sanitizer available at each of your home's entrances. AND in your car for use after getting gas or touching other contaminated objects when you can't immediately wash your hands.
7) If possible, cough or sneeze into a disposable tissue and discard. Use your elbow only if you have to. The clothing on your elbow will contain infectious virus that can be passed on for up to a week or more!

What I have stocked in preparation for the pandemic spread to the US:
1) Latex or nitrile latex disposable gloves for use when going shopping, using the gasoline pump, and all other outside activity when you come in contact with contaminated areas.
Note: This virus is spread in large droplets by coughing and sneezing. All the surfaces where these droplets land are infectious for about a week on average - everything that is associated with infected people will be contaminated and potentially infectious. The virus is on surfaces and you will not be infected unless your unprotected face is directly coughed or sneezed upon. This virus only has cell receptors for lung cells (it only infects your lungs) The only way for the virus to infect you is through your nose or mouth via your hands or an infected cough or sneeze onto or into your nose or mouth.
2) Stock up now with disposable surgical masks and use them to prevent you from touching your nose and/or mouth (We touch our nose/mouth 90X/day without knowing it!). This is the only way this virus can infect you - it is lung-specific. The mask will not prevent the virus in a direct sneeze from getting into your nose or mouth - it is only to keep you from touching your nose or mouth.
3) Stock up now with hand sanitizers and latex/nitrile gloves (get the appropriate sizes for your family). The hand sanitizers must be alcohol-based and greater than 60% alcohol to be effective.
4) Stock up now with zinc lozenges. These lozenges have been proven to be effective in blocking coronavirus (and most other viruses) from multiplying in your throat and nasopharynx. Use as directed several times each day when you begin to feel ANY "cold-like" symptoms beginning. It is best to lie down and let the lozenge dissolve in the back of your throat and nasopharynx. Cold-Eeze lozenges is one brand available, but there are other brands available. (this has not been medically proven yet)

I, as many others do, hope that this pandemic will be reasonably contained, BUT I personally do not think it will be. Humans have never seen this snake-associated virus before and have no internal defense against it. Tremendous worldwide efforts are being made to understand the molecular and clinical virology of this virus. Unbelievable molecular knowledge about the genomics, structure, and virulence of this virus has already been achieved. BUT, there will be NO drugs or vaccines available this year to protect us or limit the infection within us. Only symptomatic support is available.
I hope these personal thoughts will be helpful during this potentially catastrophic pandemic. You are welcome to share this email. Good luck to all of us! Jim

James Robb, MD FCAP
March 8, 2020
Ozone8
41 posts
As a UCSD graduate I was proud to read this great post on COVID-19 by Dr. Robb. Too bad the authorities are not providing this level of information.

I do have a couple of questions. Since the non-symptomatic phase of infection can possibly last up to 27 days (according to reports), would the zinc lozenges still be an effective option? Would it be possible to take them periodically on a prophylactic basis either on a schedule or if exposure is suspected?

It has been said by some that the virus might also enter through the eyes or even ears? Is that not true? The reported severe effects we've all heard about seem to be respiratory in nature, but just curious if those other modes of entry are possible.

Thanks again!
March 10, 2020
Nancy Allen
Men's 55
1329 posts
I have thought about this a lot. Here in Indiana we have had 87 flu deaths this year vs 0 COVID-19...so far. Our first confirmed cases have started to be identified. I am reminded of the WMC in 2001. Our flight was supposed to leave on September 12. Obviously that did not happen. SSUSA gave us the option of arriving when we could to compete or to be able to decide to not participate through no fault of our own. We met as a team, and all but one of us decided that the terrorists were not going to impact our right to play senior softball. When we arrived at the airport in Las Vegas, we were on one of the first planes in after 9/11. There waiting for the plane to depart were our older friends the Country Bins who had won their division but then got stranded there because of 9/11. The hugs and tears of joy were plentiful seeing each other. We had a great tournament and made the right decision.

This enemy is much different than the ones of 9/11. I believe that SSUSA will make the right decisions as they did back then. That being said just like back then, I think that teams need to decide collectively what the right thing to do is for them.

I hope none of us are impacted by this, and this is just another thing that we can all talk about our experiences in the future. This is just the opinion of one woman who loves this game that we are fortunate enough to participate in. Of course I also think there is no place like home...plate.
March 11, 2020
Wood_1966
Men's 50
87 posts
Any teams out there that have changed their minds in the past few days about participating in the Spring Worlds, Spring Nationals or the Tidewater? Just curious more than anything, but hopefully all these events will have low no-chow/cancellation numbers!
March 12, 2020
SSUSA Staff
2828 posts
Wood_1966 ... As of the close of business on Wednesday, March 11th, there had not been any team withdrawals in the three events you mentioned, the Spring National's, Spring World's and Tidewater Classic ... We will, of course, continue to monitor circumstances as we approach the event start dates, but so far they all remain in "go mode" ... Good luck!

March 12, 2020
Mikelmart
32 posts
I plan on playing in Las Vegas next month. I'm not staying at a casino but an AirBNB. I work in outside sales and have been playing in our local league for two weeks now. If you have an issue being in a casino atmosphere, don't gamble, be vigilant like you would in any other public area. I hope there is no extreme issues taken by the SSUSA, yes I'm concerned but practical, I'm looking forward to fist bumping my opponents after a game well played.
March 12, 2020
Wood_1966
Men's 50
87 posts
That is awesome news! Best way to combat a virus if you get it is to be healthy, and getting out in the fresh air and playing softball is part of that! Glad no one is dropping! Our team is not even considering it!
March 12, 2020
lincoln66
7 posts
may be more prudent to listen to this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3URhJx0NSw&t=3388s

Michael Osterholm is an internationally recognized expert in infectious disease epidemiology. He is Regents Professor, McKnight Presidential Endowed Chair in Public Health, the director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP), Distinguished Teaching Professor in the Division of Environmental Health Sciences, School of Public Health, a professor in the Technological Leadership Institute, College of Science and Engineering, and an adjunct professor in the Medical School, all at the University of Minnesota
March 12, 2020
Wood_1966
Men's 50
87 posts
I was not passing myself off as an expert, but hard to argue that the virus is not killing healthy people, only giving them mild symptoms.
March 12, 2020
lincoln66
7 posts
not directing that to you Wood - a lot of conflicting info out there - but evidently the best way to slow and / or help contain the spread is for people to avoid group contact so according to the experts its incumbent on everyone to do their part

NBA players are among the most fit humans on planet and they are taking the cautionary route as are most all other organizations that have cancelled conferences / meetings planned

March 12, 2020
Dbax
Men's 60
1855 posts
Hereís a link for the same guy on Joe Rogan Show. Lots more info.

https://youtu.be/cZFhjMQrVts
March 12, 2020
lincoln66
7 posts
thanks Dbax - that one is nice and concise - my link above is the hour and a half version
March 12, 2020
Dbax
Men's 60
1855 posts
I have a feeling everything is eventually going to get cancelled.
March 12, 2020
DieselDan
Men's 70
376 posts
Might be hard to avoid a recession.
March 12, 2020
stattad
Men's 65
223 posts
I just read an article. Here's part of it. Is SSUSA waiting for US to tell them we're not coming?

The coronavirus is coming to you.
Itís coming at an exponential speed: gradually, and then suddenly.
Itís a matter of days. Maybe a week or two.
When it does, your healthcare system will be overwhelmed.
Your fellow citizens will be treated in the hallways.
Exhausted healthcare workers will break down. Some will die.
They will have to decide which patient gets the oxygen and which one dies.
The only way to prevent this is social distancing today. Not tomorrow. Today.
That means keeping as many people home as possible, starting now.
March 12, 2020
SSUSA Staff
2828 posts
ē SSUSA WILL BE RELEASING AN UPDATE STATEMENT REGARDING THE SPRING NATIONAL'S, SPRING WORLD'S AND TIDEWATER CLASSIC EVENTS LATER THIS (THURSDAY) AFTERNOON ...
March 12, 2020
Wood_1966
Men's 50
87 posts
I just got an email saying all 65+ divisions in the Spring Worlds have been cancelled. True or rumor?
March 12, 2020
k man
Men's 65
290 posts
Wood, go to the tournament page for each individual tournament and you will see that that is the case.
March 12, 2020
SSUSA Staff
2828 posts
Wood_1966 ... True ... Please see Official Statement at top of the Message Board front page AND on the Tournament Page for each currently affected event ...
March 12, 2020
J R
247 posts
Here in Houston the city and county are closing the parks. Causing no softball.
March 12, 2020
Rick1218
24 posts
I'm pissed off. I looked up the statistics of the swine flu in 2010. Up to 575000 infected, 12400 deaths in the US. Did the SSUSA cancel tournaments then? If not, what's different? I'm 72 years old and should have the FREEDOM to choose if I want to attend an event. The SSUSA is taking that choice away. Lack of trust in your customer? Not enough attendance to be profitable? Law suits? If its the health and welfare of the players, let them decide.
No MLB,NHL,NCAA etc. The're all doing this for you. Did they cancel for the Swine flu?
OK. I'm ready to be chastised by group.
March 12, 2020
Benji4
221 posts
Not by me Rick1218. I agree with you

Are we going to cancel tournaments because some of us have cancer and may die from that?
Are we going to cancel tournaments because heart disease runs in people's families and they may have a heart attack?
Are we going to cancel tournaments because people have had skin cancer removed, and they may die from sun exposure?

The answer is No.

The coronavirus is a form of the flu and because it's an election year some bleeding hearts are making it into a major crisis. If you are afraid of catching the virus, go home, lock your doors and windows, and curl up in a ball and suck your thumb until it passes. That way you will be safe.

My two cents.
March 12, 2020
Dbax
Men's 60
1855 posts
Uh.....this is no swine flu. And it is just getting started.

ď It is very clear that the greatest danger is to seniors 65-plus. While most of our players are in good health, there is significant danger that they can pass the coronavirus to families and loved ones who would be more in danger.Ē

If the above statement is true, and the greatest concern is giving it to elderly parents and family members, I donít understand what age brackets have to do with anything.
The risk is the same for everyone.
March 12, 2020
VegasBob
51 posts
This is BS. To be consistent, will players over 65 be precluded from playing on an under 65 team?
March 12, 2020
Rick1218
24 posts
Dbax. You are correct. This is no swine flu. Swine flu killed 12400 Americans.

Dave. You forgot to answer the question. Did the SSUSA (or any of the other organizations listed) cancel events for the Swine flu (or Ebola or SARS) for people over 65?

When I drive to a tournament, the only other passenger is a 70 year old woman in good health except for a mean streak. We stay in "clean" places and eat in "clean" places. We look out for ourselves.

The 70's team play on (until my manager sees this) has a rule about not greeting each other with a kiss on the lips. Fist/elbow bumps.

NYC limits groups to 500. Softball limits are 22 plus umpires.

I will refrain from personal attacks.
March 12, 2020
1bounce
Men's 55
26 posts
I havenít seen an answer yet to what several people have asked. If you are 65 or older and already playing on a 60ís team will you still be able to play?
March 12, 2020
SSUSA Staff
2828 posts
TEAMS playing age 60+ and younger will play ... The age of individual players already on these teams is not a factor ... Players aged 65+ on those teams are roster-eligible for the events ... Good luck everyone! ...
March 12, 2020
VegasBob
51 posts
So, if a 70's team goes to the ballpark to support their hometown team, and maybe a couple go out and coach the bases or mingle with the team in the stands before the game, will they get thrown out of the park? Or is this simply an insurance issue?
March 12, 2020
Fabe
Men's 60
413 posts
Was thinking after reading all of the information out there...I believe shaking hands n interacting with groups of people can potentially pass viruses. Thus, the balls being used at these tourneys will be contacted by everyone involved, with the similar potential of passing viruses! Just my thoughts...stay healthy n safe my Braddahs! Aloha, Fabe
March 13, 2020
The real deal
Men's 65
99 posts
Fabe: great point. Chances are that at some point during the game, every player (and umpires) will be handling the balls and potentially passing on the virus.. Perhaps we should wash our balls for 20 seconds before every pitch. (sorry guys - couldn't resist...).
March 13, 2020
64stones
18 posts
I have seen the recent email put out canceling the 65 and over age groups for upcoming tournamentís however those other age groups need to have concerns. Teams have to travel, lodge and eat and you then maybe exposing yourselves to potential carriers of the virus.
If All Pro and CollegeSports have been suspended for precaution why are these tournaments still going on.
How many teams and players may still back out at the last minute.This is a very fluid situation daily.
Hopefully for those who are still attending these tournaments donít get canceled last minute
Good luck and stay well
March 13, 2020
OZ40
523 posts
I agree with Rick. With the H1N1, it took Obama 6 months to declare a National Health Emergency. And that virus came in right across our own Southern border. According to Dr. Mark Siegal 17 thousand American Citizens died from the 'swine flu', over 60 million American Citizens caught it and over 300 thousand were hospitalized in the US. Where was the outcry and media hype then? Was anything cancelled? I don't think so at least not on the scale we are seeing today. What is so different now? I'll withhold comment on that. Routinely, we have about 30,000 yearly deaths here due to the flu season which runs through August, why not cancel everything every year because it's flu season? Right now the majority of deaths so far with corona have come from a single senior home in Washington state, (sedentary people with compromised health issues). This is way too politicized. My neighbor is a care giver for an elderly man. She had to call 911 the other day because he was having a heart attack, at the hospital it turned out that he was having a panic attack due to his worrying about the corona virus. I believe there are two things pushing this hysteria, election year politics and lawyers telling these big organizations to cover their a_ _ es and cancel out events. I am disappointed that my particular party has bought into this as much as they have.
March 13, 2020
The real deal
Men's 65
99 posts
Question for SSUSA:

Are players (pitchers in particular) allowed to wear the surgical gloves that doctors and dentists wear? A pitcher in our local league wears them, and the umps allow this.
March 13, 2020
lincoln66
7 posts
doubtful any political motivation from this expert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3URhJx0NSw&t=3388s

0:10 Intro

0:40 How bad is Coronavirus

4:00 Is the virus an "old persons" disease

5:18 Incubation period

7:50 What can be done to prevent infection

13:45 Drug shortages

15:20 Sauna use effect on infections

18:00 Was Coronavirus man-made

22:00 American Wild Deer diseases and Prions

32:00 Is Corona seasonal

35:00 Corona could be 10 times worse than the flu

35:25 Corona will stay around for months

36:10 Coronavirus vs Spanish flu

38:30 How can we prepare our immune system

43:20 Do hand sanitizers and masks work

50:00 We stockpile weapons more than medical goods

54:30 Will people panic if they are told the truth

56:00 Vaccines

1:02:00 Why a virus would originate from China

1:11:30 What to do if you get the flu

1:15:45 Lime disease and ticks

1:23:00 Effects of fire suppression on ecosystem

1:30:00 Vaccine for Coronavirus
March 13, 2020
Dbax
Men's 60
1855 posts
OZ40...with all due respect, you post on when a swine flu emergency was declared is 100% wrong.
March 13, 2020
OZ40
523 posts
D' with all due respect we can disagree. I stand by my post. The swine flu outbreak in this country in 2009 and 2010. In April 2009 it was declared a pandemic, 6 months later in October after 1000 citizens had already died it was declared a national health emergency. Dr. Siegel, one of the Fox doctors was on TV explaining this 2 nights ago. He confirmed: Sixty million people were infected. Three hundred thousand were hospitalized. The numbers with the coronavirus are not even close. They are barely a fraction of a percentage compared to the swine flu. I don't think we even have 300,000 cases of Corona virus worldwide.

February 12th, 2010, archives, Reuters news: ďSwine Flu Has Killed Up to 17,000 in U.S.Ē February 12th, 2010: ďH1N1 Swine Flu Has Killed as Much as 17,000 Americans Including 1,800 Children Ė The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported on Friday the swine flu pandemic put as many people in the hospital as during the normal influenza season, but most were younger adults and children instead of the elderly.ĒAnd it was during the months when usually very little or no flu is circulating, the CDC said. ďThe CDC estimates that between 41 million and 84 million cases of the 2009 swine flu occurred between April 2009 and January 16th, 2010.Ē So itís maybe more than 60 million, 84 million cases of swine flu. CDC said in a statement, ďBut between 880 and 1,800 children died. Up to 13,000 adults under the age of 65, and only 1,000 to 2,000 elderly died.Ē
So the swine flu got the young, 84 million cases, 1,800 children dead, 300,000 total infected, 13,000 adults. Thatís a February 12th, 2010, archives at Reuters. Seventeen thousand Americans dead.
March 13, 2020
Dbax
Men's 60
1855 posts
Not saying your stats on the swine are wrong. Iím referring to when it was declared an emergency. And once again, this is just starting. It wasnít 6 months later. Google it yourself.
March 13, 2020
1jonsey
44 posts
Someone please explain to me the reasoning of ssusa's decision on tournaments. Since I'm 67 it's not safe for me to play, but a 64 yr. old is good to go. How old were the NBA players who contractced it, that's right they were 23 & 27. I just donít understand their reasoning
March 13, 2020
AJC
Men's 60
151 posts
Jonsey, its a no win situation. If they do nothing at all they will be chastised for ignoring the situation, some will say its a money grab and they dont care about the players. The ' experts ' as of last night are still trying to figure out why it affects the over 60 population so much harder than those that are under 60.

I totally get why anyone over 65 would be upset over it. Id like to have a choice whether to attend or not, i dont want someone taking that away. Id rather play than be told that i cant.

I would like to think that SSUSA is trying to look after the players well being.
March 13, 2020
NYGNYY
136 posts
1jonsey --take it a step further how many 65+ players play on 60 teams? I agree with the SSUSA decision on 65's and older...the right decision. The logic for not playing 65's was not used when publicly stating it's OK for 65's to play on 60's. Makes no sense. I am sure we will all get to play a lot of softball in 2020. One or two tournaments shouldn't factor into common sense decisions.
March 13, 2020
Wood_1966
Men's 50
87 posts
I do not think it is as much about who is likely to contract the virus, but about which age groups are most susceptible to the deadly effects of the virus. 65+ age range the mortality rate is much higher than 50-60 years old...

That being said, I am not for the government telling anyone what they can and cannot do, so I think we should all be playing and leave it up to the individual teams to decide whether to play or not!
March 13, 2020
TWG
2 posts
A couple of weeks ago SSUSA put out an email stating that the show will go on regardless and no tournaments will be canceled. Quite frankly, I thought that letter a bit premature. Now they've decided that anyone over 65 will not be able to play on their teams, but somehow it will be OK if they play down a division. What's the point? Please explain. Every single report I have read states that this disease affects seniors 60 and over the most. So why are the 60's still playing? Why the demarcation line that appears arbitrary and not in line with the facts? My hunch is revenue. If they lose the 60's, not enough revenue to warrant having the tournaments.
I don't disagree with posts suggesting this entire process is an over-reaction. That probably in all likelihood will be the end result. There is one certain way to stop this in its tracks and not let it spread and that is limit and and all exposure. All of our local softball leagues have suspended all play regardless of age until further notice. I think SSUSA needs to get on board with all major sports leagues, entertainment events; etc. and simply not allow any possibility of this spreading further. A month or two of lost softball is a small price to pay. Need I mention the recklessness, even though it was an attempt to be funny, of the basketball player Rudy Gobert. I can only protect myself so far, it is being exposed to reckless people that is concerning and by not canceling these tournaments until further notice, SSUSA is putting all of us in jeopardy.
March 13, 2020
Dbax
Men's 60
1855 posts
Exactly.
March 13, 2020
stick8
1777 posts
Actually Dbax, President Obama did declare a national emergency on the swine flu in October of 2009, 6 months after it started here. What youíre referring to is his declaration of a public health emergency which was in April of 2009. While they sound similar they are not exactly alike. What happened after Obama declared a national emergency was that then HHS secretary Kathleen Sibelius was empowered to issue waivers that allow hospitals to transfer swine flu patients to other satellite facilities or hospitals to combat the danger of hospitals being overwhelmed with swine flu patients. It also waived laws put into place to protect patient privacy and to ensure they arenít discriminated against based on their source of payment for the care.
Just some FYI for you, u
March 13, 2020
Dbax
Men's 60
1855 posts
10-4. I was referring to the health emergency.
March 13, 2020
stick8
1777 posts
Dbax, you initially responded to Oz40 by claiming what he posted was 100% wrong. He was not wrong, he is exactly correct. You either forgot or were not aware of what and when was declared back then.
March 13, 2020
AJC
Men's 60
151 posts
TWG, they ( SSUSA ) cannot make everyone happy, no matter what they do. I agree, if they are going to have a cutoff age, im surprised it wasnt 60's also.

The one thing to remember is that they are not telling us we have to play, its every player and his team that needs to decide what is best for themselves and their teammates and families. No one is being forced to attend that does not want to be there.
March 13, 2020
Dbax
Men's 60
1855 posts
Stick, you are right. My apologies to OZ.
March 13, 2020
bkb555
246 posts
any info on the teams that are participating in the upcoming Tidewater tourney....it's 2 weeks away and I haven't seen a list of teams expected to show....
March 13, 2020
k man
Men's 65
290 posts
It would seem to me that the cutoff line of 65 and above was chosen because in most tournaments the 65 and above groups plays on different days than the 60 and below teams. So yes, it probably makes things more manageable for the ssusa hierarchy. Imagine the furor if the 60's were eliminated and yet the 55's and below were still playing? Stay well everybody!
March 13, 2020
jfsully
80 posts
The moves by organizations is NOT because the virus is so deadly

The idea is to "flatten the curve" so cases do not overwhelm the healthcare establishment. The fear is , if allowed the virus to run it's natural course, the rapid increase in cases would cause many high risk people to not be able to get treatment.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/science/coronavirus-curve-mitigation-infection.html
March 13, 2020
bkb555
246 posts
Our team has decided not to go...we were in 55 majors....schools are closing in NY and I think things will get worse before they get better
March 14, 2020
OZ40
523 posts
Dbax, apology accepted. Hey, we all just want to play the game we love. IMOP I am just sick and tired of the ginned up hysteria (much of it politically motivated) surrounding this virus. There are those in need of a political angle to regain relevancy for their party. Those same people are dead set intense on stringing this false panic out until election day in November. In Michigan you only get so many seasonal ball playing days and they are approaching us now. I'll be G-Da_ _ed if I'm ready to let them cast a pall over my entire summer! Good luck this season to all.
March 14, 2020
stick8
1777 posts
Jfsully Iíve read that nearly 90% of people who get this virus recover fully within a few days with no major issues and many times donít see a doctor. So you are correct about it not being a deadly virus, except for the elederlybwith conditions. Everyday more is being learned about the coronavirus. Some are saying it acts similar to the SARS virus. I believe this is the big snag, not enough is known about it.
Irregardless if you show no symptoms there is no need to get tested. If you have an elective surgery scheduled at a hospital you may wish to put it off so those who have the virus and need treatment may not have to wait.
So live your life, do what you normally do, play ball etc etc.
And of course most importantly, practice good hygiene.
March 14, 2020
Benji4
221 posts
Just got notice that SPA is cancelling softball events until at least April 1st regardless of age. It appears parks will not allow any tournaments until at least April. No more league night softball at city parks in California either until April.

So it looks like nothing until April. Enjoy BP fellas that's all we will get for a month or so.

Benji
March 14, 2020
bkb555
246 posts
It's probably best that teams from different states don't go into other states right now...just think of all the people that will come into contact with each other and then bring back possible infections to respective states....it might just accelerate the problem and possibly infect areas that weren't affected....we just have to ride this out and socially isolate as best and miserably as possible
March 14, 2020
hackman
3 posts
Site says all 65 and over tournaments have been cancelled/postponed. What about the Spring Worlds Men's 60/65+ Platinum Division as it is a combined age group?
March 14, 2020
Ozone8
41 posts
It seems inevitable that all tournaments for all age groups will be canceled/postponed in the near future. Some need to reread what Dr. Jim Robb wrote at the top of this post.
March 14, 2020
SALSAKID49
Men's 55
146 posts
Here's my take... I'm 64... And Yes, we all plainly want to play the game we love. My team Samurai 60's long before all of this happened we decided to drop out from playing in Mesquite for other reasons, and great timing.

The coronavirus COVID-19 is NO JOKE and not the same as the past viruses of the last 12+ years...

This current virus is one on Steriods... reports are that the infection rate forecast is on a steep rise in our nation... Not a single person has the same health issues and /or perfect health predicaments. We are human for a reason.

Let us all NOT by worst-case scenario get infected should we do play... Consequently, this is NOT about it being a politically motivated concern, it's about the more trustworthy public health in our nation... We can manage to not playing the Spring Worlds, it's better to be safe and not sorry by the old adage.

When this virus is wiping out the calenders of all Major Sports in the US and/or delay the start of a season. We can do the very same.

Softball will always be there... Especially, when all of this health issue environment passes on. Team Samurai 60's is in full deliberation with playing in the Spring Worlds at this time...

Do the Correct thing SSUSA... cancel certain upcoming events. Probably work out on alternate dates with your Las Vegas partners while keeping us up-to-date?

Be healthy and safe to all...
Jose "SalsaKid"
March 14, 2020
Papajoe56
Men's 60
44 posts
The SSUSA notice states a team will receive entry fee credit for a future tournaments. Is it safe to assume that credit will be for any future SSUSA tournament? For example, if we entered the Cow Town Classic will the credit apply to another 2020 Midwest Series tournament or any SSUSA tournament?
March 14, 2020
Ozone8
41 posts
Jose, couldn't agree more. Viva the SalsaKid.
March 14, 2020
Dbax
Men's 60
1855 posts
PAC 12 just cancelled all sports for remainder of 2020!
March 14, 2020
lincoln66
7 posts
Pac 12 through end of academic year

leaves door open for Fall sports for now
March 14, 2020
lincoln66
7 posts
I think
March 14, 2020
Dbax
Men's 60
1855 posts
Correct. End of 2020 academic year.
March 14, 2020
Allan55
98 posts
As a softball player who loves this game, I would like to play the upcoming tournament in Mesquite/St. George. I have always wanted to play there. However, if just one player from all of the players who will attend this tournament contracts or already has the virus, that person could unknowingly (Gobert did not know he had the virus. He could have infected half the NBA in one month.) infect a number of players. I would hate to be SSUSA at that time...especially if someone dies or numerous players become sick from playing in the tournament...after so many other organizations cancelled their events.
March 14, 2020
Juice9
6 posts
This is more about not spreading the disease all at once. How would you feel if you are a carrier of the disease and did not know it and spread it to people that die from it. It has been said in Italy they are deciding who gets the care needed and who they kinda leave in the cornor to die. If the hospitals get over run USA will be making the same decision. NBA cancelled there games , why there young and healthy. They did so they can try and make this slow down and not hit all at once. I for one will not be travelling on a plane anywhere soon. Not because I am not healthy or scarred for myself but because I am trying to do the right thing. I will be out living my life but trying to not be in large gatherings and distance myself from others when possible. Stay safe and be smart. I hope if anyone of us gets sick we are able to get the professional care needed,
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