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March 19, 2020
86 posts
COVID-19 Treatment
To begin, this is not meant to be a sarcastic post, so please don't read/respond to it as being one. I pose, what I believe, a legitimate question. I've heard an enormous amount of information about diagnosis and prevention of the virus and the total number(s) of those infected. But, let's assume that one has contracted the virus, properly diagnosed, and isolated. What, pray tell, is the treatment? Do I get me a glass of orange juice, a hand full of day/night quill, aspirin, or any other OTC medication and try to sleep soundly for a couple of days, or what? Maybe some antibiotics? I just heard a number (accuracy unknown) of 84,000 + that have survived this virus. No statistics have been offered as to age, physical condition, whether their immune system has been compromised, etc. etc. However, they survived! So, how did they treat their illness? Suppose I'm ill, and feel like I've felt hundreds of times before with self diagnosed, everyday flu? Do I do what I've done those hundreds of times through my nearly 80 years, buy my OTC meds, go to bed and ask everyone to leave me alone for a couple of days? Or, before that, as some pundits suggest, rush to a tent in a parking lot and get a mouth swab, wait a few days for the results, then take the recommended treatment? Once again, how do I treat my illness, with or without a diagnosis? Are our labs seeking a cure? Or a vaccine for future injections? Again, this is not meant to be sarcastic, so please don't treat it as such.
March 19, 2020
77 posts
Not for nothing, but getting your medical advise from a senior softball forum probably isn't your best idea. Go to the CDC or another reputable medical site is a better thought.
March 19, 2020
Men's 60
334 posts
Player - agree with raiderman:

They say there is no cure and antibiotics won't help, currently working on a vaccine but won't be here available for a while. A LOT depends on your own personal health issues (age, lung issues, diabetes, immune deficiencies, etc.). Each person will be different and be able to or not be able to fight off what will feel like the flu minus the body aches (affects your lungs mostly with a fever and persistent cough). They said to check your temp twice a day and once you get over 100 then get in touch with your dr or at least be prepared depending on the health things I mentioned.

Good luck all and stay safe!
March 19, 2020
Men's 55
164 posts
Agree, an internet forum is probably the worst place to go for advice. HAHA! That being said, they are doing human trials of a vaccine in Seattle, and chloroquine (sic) and HIV drugs have proven effective against previous coronavirus'(SARS, MERS) and is being tested with some success against COVID-19.
March 21, 2020
1985 posts
Player, a doctor told me that if you test positive then stay inside your home for 2 weeks and isolate yourself. Self quarantine if you would.
Right now there is no cure or vaccine available and Iím not aware of any pills one can take to combat this. The best thing he said was to try and eat a balanced diet, get enough sleep and most importantly, stay hydrated. Hopefully ones immune system will rid off the virus sooner than later. Unless something is developed thatís the best way to fight off the virus. It may take a few days.
March 21, 2020
549 posts
For what it's worth, I got this email the other day. I don't see anything that is harmful in the advice.

From member of the Stanford hospital board.
>>> This is their feedback for now on Corona virus: The new Coronavirus may not show sign of infection for many days. How can one know if he/she is infected? By the time they have fever and/or cough and go to the hospital, the lung is usually 50% Fibrosis and it's too late. Taiwan experts provide a simple self-check that we can do every morning. Take a deep breath and hold your breath for more than 10 seconds. If you complete it successfully without coughing, without discomfort, stiffness or tightness, etc., it proves there is no Fibrosis in the lungs, basically indicates no infection. In critical time, please self-check every morning in an environment with clean air. Serious excellent advice by Japanese doctors treating COVID-19 cases: Everyone should ensure your mouth & throat are moist, never dry. Take a few sips of water every 15 minutes at least. Why? Even if the virus gets into your mouth, drinking water or other liquids will wash them down through your throat and into the stomach. Once there, your stomach acid will kill all the virus. If you don't drink enough water more regularly, the virus can enter your windpipe and into the lungs. That's very dangerous. Please send and share this with family and friends. Take care everyone and may the world recover from this Coronavirus soon. IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - CORONAVIRUS 1. If you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold 2. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose. 3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun. 4. If someone sneezes with it, it takes about 10 feet before it drops to the ground and is no longer airborne. 5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - so if you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as soon as you can with a bacterial soap. 6. On fabric it can survive for 6-12 hours. normal laundry detergent will kill it. 7. Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses. Try not to drink liquids with ice. 8. Wash your hands frequently as the virus can only live on your hands for 5-10 minutes, but - a lot can happen during that time - you can rub your eyes, pick your nose unwittingly and so on. 9. You should also gargle as a prevention. A simple solution of salt in warm water will suffice. 10. Can't emphasis enough - drink plenty of water! THE SYMPTOMS 1. It will first infect the throat, so you'll have a sore throat lasting 3/4 days 2. The virus then blends into a nasal fluid that enters the trachea and then the lungs, causing pneumonia. This takes about 5/6 days further. 3. With the pneumonia comes high fever and difficulty in breathing. 4. The nasal congestion is not like the normal kind. You feel like you're drowning. It's imperative you then seek immediate attention.
March 21, 2020
Men's 65
2086 posts
OZ...that is a fake email going around.
March 21, 2020
549 posts
D, thanks for the heads up !!
March 21, 2020
Men's 50
22 posts
VERY interesting read and explanation of WHY this virus is so frightening !
Shared by my friend , Brenda Hull a nurse.

Feeling confused as to why Coronavirus is a bigger deal than Seasonal flu? Here it is in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to share this to others who donít understand...

It has to do with RNA sequencing.... I.e. genetics.

Seasonal flu is an ďall human virusĒ. The DNA/RNA chains that make up the virus are recognized by the human immune system. This means that your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year... you get immunity two ways...through exposure to a virus, or by getting a flu shot.

Novel viruses, come from animals.... the WHO tracks novel viruses in animals, (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually these viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1) (birds in the case of the Spanish flu). But once, one of these animal viruses mutates, and starts to transfer from animals to humans... then itís a problem, Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity.. the RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isnít human, and the human immune system doesnít recognize it so, we canít fight it off.

Now.... sometimes, the mutation only allows transfer from animal to human, for years itís only transmission is from an infected animal to a human before it finally mutates so that it can now transfer human to human... once that happens..we have a new contagion phase. And depending on the fashion of this new mutation, thats what decides how contagious, or how deadly itís gonna be..

H1N1 was deadly....but it did not mutate in a way that was as deadly as the Spanish flu. Itís RNA was slower to mutate and it attacked its host differently, too.

Fast forward.

Now, here comes this Coronavirus... it existed in animals only, for nobody knows how long...but one day, at an animal market, in Wuhan China, in December 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to people. At first, only animals could give it to a person... But here is the scary part.... in just TWO WEEKS it mutated again and gained the ability to jump from human to human. Scientists call this quick ability, ďslipperyĒ

This Coronavirus, not being in any form a ďhumanĒ virus (whereas we would all have some natural or acquired immunity). Took off like a rocket. And this was because, Humans have no known immunity...doctors have no known medicines for it.

And it just so happens that this particular mutated animal virus, changed itself in such a way the way that it causes great damage to human lungs..

Thatís why Coronavirus is different from seasonal flu, or H1N1 or any other type of influenza.... this one is slippery. And itís a lung eater...And, itís already mutated AGAIN, so that we now have two strains to deal with, strain s, and strain L....which makes it twice as hard to develop a vaccine.

We really have no tools in our shed, with this. History has shown that fast and immediate closings of public places has helped in the past pandemics. Philadelphia and Baltimore were reluctant to close events in 1918 and they were the hardest hit in the US during the Spanish Flu.

Factoid: Henry VIII stayed in his room and allowed no one near him, till the Black Plague passed...(honestly...I understand him so much better now). Just like us, he had no tools in his shed, except social isolation...

And let me end by saying....right now itís hitting older folks harder... but this genome is so slippery...if it mutates again (and it will). Who is to say, what it will do next.
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