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Discussion: Dugouts

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April 30, 2020
Duckman
3 posts
Dugouts
The new virus regulation seem reasonable but the true weakness lies with the dugout. There is no way to keep any resemblance of social distancing in a dugout sometimes designed for kids. The solution seems to be that some players stand outside the field. This would require constant contact with the gate and crowding through the opening. Why not allow some players to stand inside the field of play? "Inherent danger of fowl balls?" This is not baseball. Overthrows are the problem, so stay out of line and alert. The risks are far less than the confines of the dugout.
May 1, 2020
TimMcElroy
674 posts
Social distancing inside the dugout is going to be difficult but there is nothing stopping players from standing outside of their dugout, outside the playing area. Players standing inside the playing area brings additional safety risks into the mix (batted balls, wild throws, collisions).

SSUSA is trying to make safe and sensible decisions in this unprecedented time. Once play resumes, they (we) may find better processes and procedures. If nothing else, this first round of COVID planning is a step in the right direction.
May 1, 2020
Omar Khayyam
1323 posts
Not an insurmountable problem in California with its absence of summer rainójust seat guys in the dugout by batting order and when the bench is full (4 or 5 guys?) the others line up in batting order along the outside of the fence! But in areas of thundershowers, for example, where guys might be able to wait it out under dugout roofs, not so pleasant.
May 2, 2020
Duckman
3 posts
If you are alert, getting hit by a foul ball by standing along the fence outside the dugout is negligible, as well as collisions. Wild throws can be avoided if alert. There are plenty of safe areas along the fence toward the outfield. As a bench player, contacting the ball or player, can hurt your team. Injuries would be of the softball type. The alternative, outside the dugout, would require constant contact with the gate. Players going in and out between innings, every hitter, pitch runner, etc. Constant delays. The latch, fencing and post would see more touching than the ball. Social distancing would not be the standard. Noone, when warned that there are too many players outside the dugout, ever thought, "Wow, I'm glad the ump noticed that, I could have been injured." Noone.
May 2, 2020
CAT
192 posts
How are all of these changes going to affect the time limit of the game when waiting for an entire team to get off the field before the other team enters? Come on !! you know seniors and their chatting ways on the field! Believe there should be an extended time for game play. Just my opinion.....
May 2, 2020
OZ40
526 posts
CAT, since everyone loves the 3-2 count so much maybe we should keep the time limit the same and just go to a 2-1 count this season....on a trial basis of course (wink-wink). Also, if you let guys stand outside of the dugout in foul territory what's to stop a fielder from 'accidently' throwing the ball in their area to get an interference call late in a tight game?
May 2, 2020
Duckman
3 posts
The players are spread out at least 6 feet apart along the fence hopefully avoiding the wild throw lanes. A wild throw is unlikely to hit someone and would allow runners to advance. Hitting someone is probably not an out just a dead ball. No advantage vs. a clean throw. Why not just try to nail a base coach, they're closer? If it's obvious your "accidental" wild throw allows the winning run to score in a tight game, then you'll have both teams chasing your butt into the parking lot. Lol
May 3, 2020
OZ40
526 posts
Duck, I've yet to see an errant throw that stays where it lands....about your two qualifying words 'probably' and 'unlikely' I think we have all seen that probably and unlikely occur at the most inopportune times. Now instead of the umpire warning the team roamer to get back in the dugout should he have a fence line to police now too? Should it be up to the umpire to stop play when Fred gets too close to Tom along the fence line? Dead ball batter out, that's ballgame !
May 3, 2020
DieselDan
Men's 70
376 posts
One could only hope that the decision makers would remember all the people they pass in the varies stores they have been in even if the stores limit the number of people who can be in the store at any given time. Next thing you know, they'll be telling us to hold our breaths as we pass others, even when running the bases, and will have to play the game with masks on.
May 3, 2020
jfsully
80 posts
The first "tag" play is going to be fun .... runner safe, fielder ejected for attempted assault
May 3, 2020
Meanzie
7 posts
I don't think having players on the playing field will work, avoiding balls is one thing, our coach got hit last year standing in the opening in the dugout with a flying bat. It caught him in the chest, had it been in the head it could have killed him. I know that is pretty rare, but still happens. Plus if foul balls are hit I could see players not trying hard enough to get out of the way. I think if we keep players outside the dugout with minimal fans would be best.
May 3, 2020
HSquared
19 posts
IMO.......Outside the dugout and off the field.

As mentioned earlier, if the issue IS contact with the gate, leave it open, "establish a ruling", and deal with it WHEN it happens, which is not all that often.

Lesser of all evils.
May 3, 2020
OZ40
526 posts
When it's time to bat maybe everyone should play with their own balls....
May 3, 2020
DieselDan
Men's 70
376 posts
Who will be charge of disinfecting the softballs? Catcher, umpire, pitcher? Players can get infected with a ball their teammates touch. How often during a game will everyone involved with a game have to have their temperature taken?
May 3, 2020
Jawood
Men's 50
926 posts
Discipline yourself not to touch your eyes, nose and mouth if you're using or touching things that others do during a game. Sanitize as often as you feel necessary. Simple.
May 3, 2020
OZ40
526 posts
I meant my previous comment as a light-hearted play on words.....
May 3, 2020
Omar Khayyam
1323 posts
jfsully, LOL!

Jawood, my wife and I have fun watching TV presenters on Covid precautions touch their nose, eyes, even mouth! Habits of decades are hard to break...and usually unconscious.
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