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May 10, 2020
garyheifner
603 posts
Oh Boy!
After a long winter up here in the Chicago area, Our 1st possible tournament is now in July. All that off season training is going to waste. Well maybe not a waste, I am ripped!!! SORTA!! What sucks most is my brand new bat still in the wrapper. I can't hit it because all the rec areas and softball field in my Sun City are closed down. Can't see Northern Illinois opening up soon.
May 11, 2020
OZ40
526 posts
I hear you Gary. July? For us northerners that's about 30-40 days from the first frost warning ! Great summer, eh? The gorilla in the room that no one wants to recognize is the mental damage to the psyche of Americans when this passes. Will the public spaces and public interactions ever be quite the same? Will the new 'good old days' now be anything prior to 2020? Thanks a lot China...….
May 11, 2020
jfsully
80 posts
Going out with a buddy to throw the ball and loosen up our arms at the field today ..... supposedly we are not locked down in Palm Beach County as of 12:01 today.

We will see ... going to breakfast afterwards and make dinner plan ... We need to help the businesses come back and help lead and force the world out of this PANICdemic.

Everything can be the same, we just have to realize that it will take effort to try to educate others that this was probably a massive overreaction.

Almost all of us lived through 1968-69 when 100,000 plus people died in the USA and between 1 and 2 million worldwide of the Hong Kong Flu. Most were above the age of 65. We were not afraid of that and didn't shut the word down. Social media etc helped fan the flames of this. That H3N2 virus continues to circle the world each year.

As Roosevelt said " The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."
May 11, 2020
OZ40
526 posts
Sounds good Sully, agreed. One point though, back in 68-69 the mainstream media was too busy pushing narratives about Vietnam to push the narrative about a virus. Also, the "Woodstock" professors hadn't invaded academia yet.
May 11, 2020
jfsully
80 posts
You will love this insanity .... we were told we could not throw the ball to each other and play catch because we were both touching the same ball

I pointed out that we were allowed to play tennis and would be hitting the same balls, picking them up and tossing them with our hand to serve.

The response "Thats different" ...I then asked if it was ok for us to toss green fuzzy balls back and forth and was told no.

We went to the dog park and threw for a while, we had to bark every once in a while but it worked.

BTW OZ if you havent seen this article in Das Bild (which is Europes best selling newspaper) I think you will like it :

https://www.politicopathy.com/2020/05/11/germanys-das-bild-says-lockdown-was-a-huge-mistake/

If you open this in google chrome and translate the page, you can read the original : https://www.politicopathy.com/2020/05/11/germanys-das-bild-says-lockdown-was-a-huge-mistake/
May 11, 2020
Dbax
Men's 60
1855 posts
100,000 dead in 68 and 69. We are at 80,000 in two months. You seriously think it’s the same?
May 11, 2020
DCPete
379 posts
Dbax thank you for adding some sanity to this Board
May 11, 2020
jfsully
80 posts
The 1968 to 1969 flu season ... not two years ...

Birx said recently that she believes there is an OVERCOUNT by the CDC of at least 25%.

And yes,IMO and in the opinion of numerous immulnologists I know and have talked to, the beahvior of this virus is very similar ... BTW I had it in late January after a trip overseas in early mid Januaryand it was like very bad flu.

Actually this has spread since at least January ad probably before ... so its more like 5 months. We have ny been locked down for 2.

But if you are afraid, stay inside. That is YOUR choice. That is called freedom of choice

May 12, 2020
OZ40
526 posts
Understood, I never thought in the USA we'd have to find clandestine areas to play catch. There is also a push on to attribute many deaths to the Chinese virus that are not necessarily caused or related to the virus. Too-2-to-political. We are being subjected to our first mild dose of subjugation and socialism being administered to us under the guise 'caring for us'. How do you all like it so far.
May 12, 2020
Rick1218
24 posts
Right on OZ. It's amazing to me that so many Americans relinquish their freedoms.
May 12, 2020
Wood_1966
Men's 50
87 posts
OZ, Rick - Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." I agree wholeheartedly with Mr Franklin! Too many people have too easily given up their personal liberties under the guise of this virus! The government now knows how easily they can control the sheeple by scaring them, well, I refuse to give up any of my God give, Constitution given rights!
May 12, 2020
OZ40
526 posts
The daily 'reporting' of deaths and new cases reminds me of the daily body counts reported during the Vietnam war. The public got stoked up by the media and the same thing is happening now with the Chinese virus. Can you imagine if the flu deaths were 'reported' in the same way? We'd never play ball and the country would never open up! That begs the question, why this virus, why now, it has to be political than anything.
May 13, 2020
Joey525i
Men's 55
24 posts
The expressions “Chinese virus” and “Wuhan virus” personify the threat. Personification is metaphorical: its purpose is to help understand something unfamiliar and abstract (i.e. the virus) by using terms that are familiar and embodied (i.e. a location, a nationality or a person). But as cognitive linguists George Lakoff and Mark Johnson have long shown, metaphors are not just poetic tools, they are used constantly and shape our world view. The adjective “Chinese” is particularly problematic as it associates the infection with an ethnicity. Talking about group identities withan explicitly medical language is a recognized process of Othering (here and here), historically used in anti-immigrant rhetoric and policy, including toward Chinese immigrants in North America. This type of language stokes anxiety, resentment, fear and disgust toward people associated with that group.
May 13, 2020
TAT22
59 posts
Joey525i, Since The adjective “Chinese” is particularly problematic as it associates the infection with an ethnicity. I guess then that CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC should have just kept calling it the "Wuhan" virus.
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