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Discussion: Saint George Temp Rising

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Aug. 11, 2020
Jon44
Men's 55
145 posts
Saint George Temp Rising
Tried posting this a bit earlier, but ran into some difficulty. The forecasted temp in Saint George has risen significantly in the last 24 hours (Sat-109, Sun-110). Is there a contingency plan to possibly start play at 7am and play into the evening to avoid daytime highs? We are all happy to be playing, but 109-110 is freakin' hot. I know you do not control the weather (although it'd be a lot cooler if you did), but you possibly can control game times. Is this a possibility?

I played in Yuma earlier in the year and saw a couple umpires go down (one hauled off in an ambulance) due to heat, and I would hate to see a repeat of this.
Aug. 11, 2020
Jon44
Men's 55
145 posts
BTW, good thing playing in Mesquite was cancelled-- 112 Saturday, 115 Sunday
Aug. 11, 2020
SSUSA Staff
2945 posts
Thanks Jon44 ... I'm certain the Tourney personnel on site will monitor conditions ... I also just checked with Accuweather.com and the numbers you quoted this morning aren't as high in this afternoon's forecast ... Right now, they aren't showing anything at 109-110 ... Thanks!

TUE - 103
WED - 105
THU - 103
FRI - 106
SAT - 107
SUN - 108

Aug. 11, 2020
Jon44
Men's 55
145 posts
If we were allowed to attach things, I could show you multiple credible sites that show higher temps I eluded to. We all wanna play, just want to do it at the best times of the day to do so safety.
Aug. 11, 2020
DaveDowell
Men's 65
2977 posts
I have no preference as to who's got the better forecasted numbers ... That's just a "20-20 Hindsight" analysis ... It's still the same answer: The Tourney folks there will know it's hot and will make whatever modifications are appropriate for the circumstances ... I can tell you, however, there's not a lot of flexibility in The Canyons schedule on Saturday ... Last games of the day there should end, if on time, around 11:00 PM ... It's not so tight at the other facilities ... Good luck and stay hydrated! ...
Aug. 11, 2020
domer
18 posts
Is anyone going to post results from both sessions?
Aug. 11, 2020
Jon44
Men's 55
145 posts
I appreciate the answer-- I do hope your referenced site is more accurate than the multiple other ones I looked at. Even at 107 on Saturday per Accuweather, that's enough to cause problems if everyone doesn't take proper precautions. If the schedule does not allow for flexibility, then it just doesn't.
Aug. 11, 2020
Wood_1966
Men's 50
104 posts
This will feel cool compared to how hot it was in Yuma for the SoCal championships! Stay hydrated, bring a pop up sun shade, stay hydrated, pay attention to your body, stay hydrated, avoid too much alcohol, stay hydrated and most importantly, stay hydrated!

Everyone came through Yuma fine, even the couple umpires who the heat got to! I am going back to my old Army days here, but if you wait until Friday to start getting hydrated it is too late! Start drinking a lot of fluids today!!!
Aug. 11, 2020
Tommygun1
8 posts
Results for today at Little Valley are posted
Aug. 11, 2020
DaveDowell
Men's 65
2977 posts
Same is true for today's games at The Canyons ...
Aug. 11, 2020
Jon44
Men's 55
145 posts
kudos on posting the scores. Very much appreciated. It's good to see the brackets filled out as well. Huge improvement and great work to all involved. From what I saw it looked fantastic.
Aug. 11, 2020
HSquared
Men's 55
47 posts
I echo Jon44's statement. BRAVO !!!
Aug. 12, 2020
TAT22
63 posts
Jon44, if the tourney were held in Sacramento like originally planned before Covid, the temps are nearly identical. Fri-107, Sat-108, Sun-106. Bonus is less humidity in St. George.
Aug. 12, 2020
Jon44
Men's 55
145 posts
TAT22-- true-- it's hot everywhere right now. I was more interested in possible flexibility on start times given the hot temp regardless of where tourney is held. I wouldn't mind starting as early as 7am and playing well into the night to avoid mid day heat. Sounds like scheduling doesn't allow for that, so we work through it. I do know this- I would rather play in Saint George and the nice fields there all things being equal.
Aug. 12, 2020
DaveDowell
Men's 65
2977 posts
Jon44 ... I'm being a bit misquoted it seems ... The scheduling in St. George is reasonably flexible everywhere except on Saturday at The Canyons ... And, yes, the temperature extremes are pretty close to the same in Sacramento/Placer Counties this week(end) ... Third week in August is just a warm one in a LOT of places ...
Aug. 12, 2020
Jon44
Men's 55
145 posts
yes-- you did say that. My bad. Maybe Little Valley, Bloomington, Gubler, Hurricane could be adjusted a bit. I was just pointing out a potential solution to a problem that comes with playing in extreme heat. I am sure you guys are all over it and will look at that. I live in the desert and used to some of this, but many aren't and it was tough seeing people hauled off in Yuma when it was really hot. Either way, the advice given earlier is spot on- start hydrating well in advance of friday and stay away from things that don't help when playing in heat.
Aug. 12, 2020
Jon44
Men's 55
145 posts
another thing as you all prepare-- there is no bleacher cover/shade at Bloomington, Gubler and Hurricane (dugouts are covered). If people are coming to watch, make sure they bring something to keep sun off of them. Bleachers and dugouts covered at Little Valley and Canyons.
Aug. 12, 2020
MB SG #1
10 posts
Where can the results be found ?
Also as you can see Jon44, who not
only is a great player, is also very
concerned about every ones health.
Good luck Jon to you and your team
stay safe and have a great tournament.
Aug. 12, 2020
Jon44
Men's 55
145 posts
for scores (or at least so far), go to western nationals pink box on top of message board. go to schedules and look there. Right now it shows seed game records and scores of yesterdays games. Hopefully this will continue to be updated. It's very nice and allows people to see when their buddies play on other fields, allowing people to see the games they want to see or follow the tournament from afar if you are unable to play/attend for some reason. It's been asked for multiple times for many years, and this is a great thing that should be applauded by all. I know it's not easy and we appreciate it.
Aug. 12, 2020
Jon44
Men's 55
145 posts
Thanks MB-- appreciate the well wishes
Aug. 12, 2020
Full Count
19 posts
N.O.A.A. weather

Fri - 107
Sat - 110
Sun - 112



Aug. 12, 2020
DieselDan
Men's 70
426 posts
Learned today that players can wear shields when they are in the dugout or coaching at 1st/3rd. Might be easier and more comfortable to put on your bag before hitting or playing D instead having it wrapped around your neck.
Aug. 12, 2020
Need4speed
17 posts
Fellow ball players, Accuweather shows temps up to 110 this weekend, please ensure your pre hydrating the night before you play, keep an eye on fellow players for signs of heat syncope or heat stress. OSHA requires a minimum of two gallons per person per eight hour period, more during severe heat temps above 95 degrees for working environments, some ball players will be exerting more energy !!!. Recommend Squenchers packets and other types of electrolytes and mild diets of fruits and vegetables for additional hydration. Cooling rags, neck towels and under arms and groin to cool vital areas.

Ive worked as an EHS Project Manager for Solar and Construction in Nuclear power and Mohave desert during the summer months, it can be tough for even the most fit person, also keep an eye on our fellow players and any fans in the stands.

Lets all take this time to play the game we all love since childhood, enjoy our opponents competitive spirits and be safe my friends.
Aug. 13, 2020
Jon44
Men's 55
145 posts
Good advice-- start the water asap. Keep it flowing all weekend. It's also great advice to watch others to make sure they are ok.

It could be worse-- some of you could still be scheduled in Mesquite this weekend, where it will hit a toasty 116 sunday....
Aug. 13, 2020
DieselDan
Men's 70
426 posts
Played on one of your favorite HR fields today Jon, #4 at LV. Teammate asks me if those are rain clouds heading our way. Sorry, XXXXX, that is smoke haze. The temperatures might not get as high as the majority of weather sites say.
Aug. 13, 2020
Jon44
Men's 55
145 posts
Dan-- If you want to see real fireworks, 40 Major Plus teams are playing on Field #3 at Little Valley on Saturday-- that field where the two houses are in play. Whoever scheduled 40 Major Plus teams on #3 at Little Valley clearly either doesn't know the venue at all or didn't think it through. I am planning on watching with an insurance agent buddy that has pre-filled claim forms for home owners for roof tiles, windows, etc. Should be really interesting!
Aug. 13, 2020
Jon44
Men's 55
145 posts
actually, I stand corrected-- they were moved off that field (thank goodness). Now instead of hitting the houses, they are hitting into the street and childrens playground on field #1 (even easier to reach than the houses on field #3).
Aug. 13, 2020
Jon44
Men's 55
145 posts
wrong again-- they were shifted completely away from Little Valley (smart move)
Aug. 13, 2020
DaveDowell
Men's 65
2977 posts
I'm not sure if you guys are spinning around disoriented because of being delerious from the heat, but ALL four of the 40-Major+ ball games scheduled at The Fields at Little Valley Saturday are on Field #4, which we believe is the southernmost field with the school parking lot outside of the outfield fence ... If I'm wrong on which field that is (if not #4), we'll just re-number on the fly ... Oh, and I'm that guy you think "..clearly either doesn't know the venue at all or didn't think it through.." ... I love all this shooting off of the fingertips with about 3% knowledge and 97% speculation! ... It's fun to watch! ...

Aug. 13, 2020
Wood_1966
Men's 50
104 posts
Dave, that is what the internet is all about isn't it??? haha!
Aug. 13, 2020
DieselDan
Men's 70
426 posts
That school/parking lot beyond LV 4 is allowing players/fans to park in the spots behind the field, but not close to the school entrance. Schools opened today in the St. G area. Distance from fence to hardtop (sloped downward with boulders/rocks/trees/shrubs) is about 50-60 feet(?). When I've been out there during some BP sessions over the years, big hitters like Jon44 reach the hardtop so those balls really bounce and roll quite a way. Hopefully the word will get out to try and stay away from that area. I could use some OF practice, so if able to watch, I'll bring my glove.

Bloomington #1 has parking spots close to LF and LC and RC has two (I belive) active pickleball courts beyond RC with some trees behind the fence.

The 40's at The Canyons could be interesting. Big hitters on 4 can hit into 6 which means bombers on 6 can reach 4. Behind RF on 6 are tall trees then a small parking lot. Over the years there's been guys reach Snow Canyon Pkwy from 4&5. The school roof behind #2 can be reached.

The Canyons have great fields, but can be very challenging for scheduling when the younger teams play there.
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