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Discussion: Infield Fly (not)

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Jan. 27, 2021
fresnomdn
6 posts
Infield Fly (not)
No outs, runner on 1B. Batter pops up in front of SS (big wind blowing in). The SS comes up like he has it, but then stops and lets it hit the ground (looked intentional, he says not). The SS picks it up immediately and tosses to 2B forcing the runner from 1B. About this time, the umpire calls the play dead and calls the batter out for not running. The defense accepted it, saying it didn't really change anything (but said they thought it was wrong to make that call). I think it did change things, as they had an easy double play due to the batter not running it out. I know what this would be in any other league, baseball or softball, just not too familiar with Senior rules yet.
Jan. 27, 2021
txnighttrain
99 posts
An infield fly is only when runners are at 1st & 2nd or bases loaded with less than two out. There os a dead ball pop outs on infield if runners are on 1st or 1st and 3rd with less than 2 outs if in the opinion of the umpire that the ball was intentionally dropped or not caught with intent to get a double play. This is an umpire judgment call. A person not running should have nothing to do with the ruling on the field.
Jan. 27, 2021
fresnomdn
6 posts
I know the Infield Fly scenario. Didn't know what else to name this thread. There was no touch of the pop up. Unless it's a Senior rule, the intent of the infielder isn't relevant unless they actually touch the ball in the air (same thing with a line drive). The batter not running is what makes this a doable maneuver for the defense . . . unless it's a Senior rule. You could let a ball hit the ground in order to force a faster lead runner, but you'd better be sure you can play the hop. And if the batter doesn't run to first, he can be doubled up . . . unless the umpire stops the play. I guess what I'm asking is if there is a specific Senior rule for this.
Jan. 28, 2021
B.J.
825 posts
yes..read below

1.37 INTENTIONALLY DROPPED FLY BALL
If a fielder intentionally drops, or lets drop, a fair fly ball, including a line drive, that can be caught by an infielder with ordinary effort with first base only, or first base and any other base(s), with less than two outs, only one recorded out may be made on the play and the ball is dead. This is an umpire's judgment call.
Jan. 28, 2021
fresnomdn
6 posts
Thanks B.J. Not sure I like it, but I do understand how age might make it a good rule. Even though the SS in the mentioned play did not intentionally play it this way, I would make the same call myself (now that I know this rule).
Feb. 7, 2021
Rumplestilskin
5 posts
BJ is correct.
Feb. 7, 2021
Wayne 37
Men's 65
773 posts
fresnomdn,

An untouched ball isn't an intentionally dropped ball. You can't drop something you didn't touch!!!!! Your umpire should have just let the play go.
Feb. 8, 2021
B.J.
825 posts
wayne.. maybe in wayne's world the umpire should just let it go ... BUT in SSUSA it says the batter is out.. wayne this would be much easier if you would just read the rules



Feb. 8, 2021
Wayne 37
Men's 65
773 posts
So do I kill the play by waving my arms and shouting, "Dead ball! Dead ball!"?

Sometimes I wonder why I waste my time on you.
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