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| Feb. 15, 2021 Arbo Men's 55 8 posts | Player Ratings After some research, I'm wondering why can't we (or is it just me) find individual player ratings on the website? Seems it may be very helpful to coaches and office staff in order to minimize calls & e-mails. |
| Feb. 15, 2021 DaveDowell Men's 70 4317 posts | Arbo ... The principal reason is because SSUSA doesn't rate players ... We DO keep track of the ratings of teams that our players play with, at the time(s) they play(ed) with those teams ... That's a constantly changing environment with respect to both the underlying team ratings, player medical exemption requests and "age-up's" ... Many times those circumstances require analysis of the raw data by SSUSA personnel to make an eligibility determination... It's not quite as easy or as accurate as "Here's a list of all the Major+ guys ... All the Major guys ... All the AAA guys ... All the AA guys" ... Thanks for asking and good luck this Season ... |
| Feb. 16, 2021 grayhitter59 Men's 60 345 posts | Arbo,since you asked why, I also have a why question. Why doesn't everyone on this board fill out all their full information when registering? Just asking. |
| Feb. 16, 2021 Schibs Men's 65 63 posts | Hey Dave, while on the subject, assessing player classifications is limited especially when attempting to add a player to an online roster, is the reason for not listing a players classification a system issue or an administrative burden, or both? As you know as managers we are forced to email or call if a team is over the threshold of next level players, knowing in advance just may reduce the number of emails and phone calls. Thanks in advance |
| Feb. 16, 2021 DaveDowell Men's 70 4317 posts | Manny ... This forum has never (unfortunately, in my personal view as the Moderator) required posters to identify themselves as a precondition to commenting ... Many people, including me, make initial judgments on the credibility of a poster by whether or not the poster has the confidence to stand by what they type ... Anonymous-keyboard-courage is present in a lot of internet outlets and here is no different ... While we certainly hope for consistently responsible content, that would be an unreasonable expectation ... |
| Feb. 16, 2021 DaveDowell Men's 70 4317 posts | Schibs ... It's neither ("..a system issue or an administrative burden..") since, as we mentioned above, SSUSA does NOT rate players, or as you called it "assessing player classifications" ... We are happy to talk you through specific player additions that fall outside of routine point and click inclusion on your master roster ... Thanks! |
| Feb. 16, 2021 Arbo Men's 55 8 posts | Dave, thank you for clarrification. I appreciate all that you and your officials do for us old guys. grayhiiter- I'm assuming you're referencing the message board information. Guess everyone has their own preference of what information they would like to give, as it's not a requirement. I have now updated mine after my first ever message board post. |
| Feb. 16, 2021 Schibs Men's 65 63 posts | Thanks for the explanation Dave, typo accessing not assessing. Being able to "access" player classifications online would be a plus, but we'll make due, thanks again. |
| Feb. 16, 2021 pizzaboy 78 posts | Dave I have a question about what class I can play at because I can move up an age level.I'm still playing 65 major but I want to play some 70s also.I'm not one of the teams best players on the 65 major team.Am I locked into Major or AAA in the 70 age bracket or can I play 70aa? |
| Feb. 17, 2021 DaveDowell Men's 70 4317 posts | pizzaboy ... I'm not the guy who makes that decision, but if I did and knowing what I know about the rules as written, you probably wouldn't like the call! ... Generally, when you "age up", you take your "rating experience history" with you ... In your case, you would move from 65-M to 70-M as your base reference point ... You could play 70-M unrestricted and 70-AAA as one of the three allowed out-of-rating players on the target roster ... You would NOT be able to be added to a 70-AA roster without a written exception by the SSUSA Office because 70-M to 70-AA is a disallowed TWO RATING LEVEL straddle... Here's where it gets tricky for you ... IF you continue to "play down" at 65-Major, you are going to have that rating index as your base reference point, and NOT 70-Major ... In short, if you are still "good enough" to play younger, we're going to base decisions on other potential roster destinations on the 65-Major, and not on your native 70+ age group ... So, IF you continue to play younger at 65-Major, your 70+ age group options are 70-Major+ or 70-Major (as one of the three allowed out of rating players) ... It would be an EXCELLENT idea for you to talk with the eligibility folks in Sacramento at (916) 326.5303 before you make any firm commitments to teams this season ... The office is open weekday mornings PST while California is on COVID-19 restrictive activity ... |
| Feb. 17, 2021 pizzaboy 78 posts | Dave thank you for your response.I know you're a very busy man and I appreciate you taking time to answer.I'll take your advice and call the eligibility people. |
| Feb. 18, 2021 Five Men's 60 4 posts | I just don't get it - and that's on me, not SSUSA. I don't understand all the stuff it takes to collect, sort and store data. What I don't get is how SSUSA states they don't keep track of payers ratings - they do. I left the game as a Major player. I was gone for 10 years. When I came back - SSUSA said I was a Major player, even though I hadn't played in 10 years. If I still had a major player rating after 10 years of not playing - seems to me, SSUSA keeps track and the records go back a long way. If SSUSA doesn't keep track of players ratings - how can SSUSA tell a manager if a player is eligible to play on a team??? |
| Feb. 18, 2021 dug8 Men's 55 25 posts | Five - The best way I can explain it (IMO) is... - Players carry a rating, just simply not as Individuals. - Players are rated based on the rating of the teams they have played with, thus the technicality of not rating individual players. - Individuals do not get rated, but do carry an individual rating based on the teams rating. - Individual players are not rated based on their individual performance, thus the statement that SSUSSA does not rate players. You do though carry an individual player rating based solely on your teams performance. - Per standard rule practice with SSUSA, you as an individual will retain your "teams" rating as your individual rating for 2 years upon your return if there is a leave of absence from the game (as in your case for 10 yrs). Hope that is correct and makes some sense. |
| Feb. 19, 2021 rmp0012002 Men's 50 57 posts | This year being my first in senior ball I am classified major. The team I am playing for is 50 major so my classification was based on that as soon as I was listed on the roster. |
| Feb. 19, 2021 rmp0012002 Men's 50 57 posts | My mistake, my classification as major was from SPA. I am assuming my SSUSA would be Major since I’m playing for a 50 Major team. I could appeal it after the season I believe. |
