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Discussion: Question about where player is rated...

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Nov. 14, 2021
curveball
Men's 65
696 posts
Question about where player is rated...
Due to Covid-19 and a variety of injuries, a 70 Major team is allowed by Sacramento to pick up a 70AAA player for the Worlds in Vegas. After the Worlds, is that player a Major player based on the last team he played for?
Other side of the coin. Same 70's Major situation, picks up a Major+ player. Is that player a Major player after the Worlds?
Nov. 14, 2021
SSUSA Staff
3195 posts
SSUSA does NOT rate players ... We rate TEAMS and maintain an historical record of the players who play for those teams and the rating(s) of the teams at those times ... Typically, a player's "rating experience history" is pegged at the highest Rating Index of the rating(s) of teams he has played for during the two prior, plus current, SSUSA Season ... For players 70+ and older, that term is a one year duration rather than two ... We also generally disregard a "one and done" single occurrence of playing for a team on a fill-in or emergency basis ...

As I read your inquiry, it should be noted that a player's "rating experience history" is not set at just the most recent roster appearance, but rather an evaluation of the totality of his recent play ... If this is more than just a theoretical query, please call the Sacramento office at (916) 326.5303 during normal business hours Pacific Time and ask for an eligibility specialist ... Be prepared to provide specific name(s) and team(s) and they will very likely be able to give you a precise and accurate answer ...

Nov. 14, 2021
curveball
Men's 65
696 posts
Excuse Me!
Question should have been, "What is the correct player rating index for two situations." Couldn't locate in the rulebook!
"Rating experience history" transforms into a grade by which players are actually graded as to which teams they can play on. I understand that. But, looking for a rule to cover the "one and done" guy who perhaps hasn't even played in 2 years. Would one shot as a pick up classify him as his experience history would have nothing else to compare to? Thank you, have a great Sunday.
Nov. 14, 2021
SSUSA Staff
3195 posts
OK, here's a better answer since you've refined/restated the question: It's impossible to answer your question without a complete experience history of the player(s) and team(s) in the mix ... At the risk of redundancy, here's a reprint of the best advice available: "..[P]lease call the Sacramento office at (916) 326.5303 during normal business hours Pacific Time and ask for an eligibility specialist ... Be prepared to provide specific name(s) and team(s).." ... This is a player classification procedural matter not feasible for the rulebook unless the rulebook was several hundred pages longer in order to cover every conceivable factual circumstance combination ... G'day ...

Nov. 14, 2021
curveball
Men's 65
696 posts
Thank you, will do.
Nov. 15, 2021
OZ40
549 posts
As an aside, After reading this thread I went immediately to my SSUSA personal homepage. Would a lot of this type of murkiness be at least cursorily cleared up if a players team rating classification were entered on his or her SSUSA Homepage?

(Also, thanks for the quick way to renew my membership. It was easy even for a non-computer savvy person such as me!)
Nov. 15, 2021
rmp0012002
Men's 50
55 posts
I had never played senior ball until this year and without playing a game I was rated 50 Major since the team I joined for one tourney decided to play 50 Major. Iím not a 50 Major level player.
Nov. 16, 2021
mck71
270 posts
rmp - the rules are pretty straight forward: there isn't really a way for you to get rated as a player until you actually play, so they use the rating of the team you initially play for. They DO allow you to change teams but you would then carry your "rating" once that is "established". Established = play at least 2 tourneys with the same team (honestly not sure if you played 1 tourney with a 50M team and then a 2nd with a different 50M team if that counts). If you only played 1 tourney with a 50M team, you can call (or email) SSUSA Home Office with a request to change your ranking to 50AAA.

I will ALWAYS tell people to call the Home Office because even though I BELIEVE what I wrote to be true, it is better to get the Home Office involved to make sure.

Good luck!
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