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Discussion: Vegas Worlds

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Aug. 2, 2022
Mark Peevey
3 posts
Vegas Worlds
Why is the Worlds the barometer of what a team should be classified as? Why isn't the body of work throughout the year taken into account? Anybteam can catch lightning in a bottle at any tourney on any day. We got moved up to Major and to this day I still get asked by different teams, why are y'all Major? We haven't won a SSUSA tourney yet!
Aug. 2, 2022
softball4b
Men's 70
1248 posts
you do well in a 75 team tourney then you have to expect to be bumped. I get it, certain players have career tourneys and team enjoys the fruits of their labor. I doubt very seriously if any of those players that played above their weight class regrets how well they played. You are 50, plenty of game left.

Mike Adair
Scorpions 70
Aug. 3, 2022
mck71
Men's 60
344 posts
Mark, I believe SSUSA TRIES to move teams up and down based on the "body of work" when they do their bi-annual moves (June and Dec) but Vegas has ALWAYS had automatic bumps (winners and % based of total number of teams, you had 75 so I believe they bumped top 3 or 4?). I have to agree with Mike, I personally believe it's better to play well ("lightning in a bottle" as you stated) and move up then go 0 - 5 to stay in your happy place? It happened to us in 2015, won AAA in Vegas and then first tourney as a Major team in 2016 we went 0 - 5 but didn't get beat bad enough to warrant a request to get put back down in AAA. LOL

My suggestion is to play the year out and in December, if you are still struggling, then appeal and if you aren't playing well enough to actually compete, then I believe you will get your appeal accepted. Please make notes of the games you get beat where the other team only beat you by 1 run because that is all they needed to win (SSUSA uses aggregate runs for or against as PART of their determination of an appeal).

Bottom line, takes at least 10 guys (us was 12) to play and do well in Vegas. Not all 12 guys were the same level but without all 12 playing well (some above their normal play like Mike said) we don't win and I wouldn't give back my ring for all the 0 - 5 weekends from that day to this one (and we are still rated Major, we just just kept playing, added a few guys and got better).

Probably NOT the answer you were looking for but as much as I hate losing, no where near as much as I hate NOT PLAYING! :-)

Good luck!
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