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Discussion: SANDBAGGING

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Feb. 2, 2023
gary c
418 posts
SANDBAGGING
ANYBODY WHO HAS PLAYED IN THE HUNTSMAN GAMES KNOWS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.
IN SSUSA YOU DON'T SEE IT THAT BAD BUT IT'S THERE. YOU GO TO A TOURNAMENT AND YOU SEE THERE IS A TEAM THERE AND YOU KNOW EVERYBODY IS PLAYING FOR SECOND PLACE.
YOU GUYS KNOW WHO WHO YOU ARE. IT'S LIKE THE 8TH GRADER WHO PICKS ON THE LITTLE 5TH GRADER (IS THAT FUN FOR YOU) YOUR BETTER BUT YOU DON'T HAVE THE BA--S TO PLAY WITH THE BIG BOYS. I PLAYED ON A VERY GOOD AAA TEAM WE WON WORLDS AND TOC MOVED UP AND GOT OUR BRAINS BEAT IN IT WASN'T FUN BUT IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT TEAMS THAT DO THAT?
I will turn my capitol letter off sorry about that.

Feb. 2, 2023
LeeM
Men's 70
38 posts
Just finished a tourney in Palm Springs and saw that. It wasnt a SSUSA run tourney so no roster checks etc
Feb. 3, 2023
DaveDowell
Men's 70
4248 posts
gary c ... Not so sure your sandbagging theory is entirely fair or accurate as it relates to the Huntsman Senior Games ... The HSG softball side is more accurately an exhibition type tournament where individual participants pay a per-event fee for each sport, including softball, they try in St. George ... The softball rosters are wide open and rely essentially on integrity in "self rating" criteria ... This lack of a formal rating structure is one reason SSUSA stopped recognizing the HSG results in our team rating evaluations ...

Feb. 3, 2023
gary c
418 posts
I know of a team that was moved up to Major didnít want to play Major took a few years off came back changed their name and now are rated AAA. They even wear the jerseys that they did when they were moved up. I have no proof and I understand you canít catch everything and if you found out about it you would act on it but just hope the teams that do this know that they hurt the game because of their egos.
Feb. 3, 2023
nails
Men's 70
69 posts
Iam more concerned about false ages. Lot of that out there. Tournaments. Should check license and player ID.
Feb. 14, 2023
donbatman
Men's 80
10 posts
Sandbagging may happen, but if the pre bracket has 4 good team some good team gets bumps, sooooo this where stuff can happen , placing teams in correct division can be simple to impossible
Feb. 15, 2023
gary c
418 posts
MAY HAPPEN !!!!!! WAKE UP
Cheaters don't want competition they just want to win at all costs. I am not blaming SSUSA it's impossible to track so many teams but it's sad to see old guys cheating because a ring is more important then good competition.
Feb. 15, 2023
SS11
60 posts
It will get worse, as the rules continue to change. Many teams will stop playing at the highest level with the new rules. SSUSA was always very competitive at the top levels (40-55 at least), with the tight regional roster restrictions. As they continue to keep opening it up to National All-Star teams, you will see more teams realize they can't compete with the biggest money teams paying players to fly across the country to play softball. Because of this, you will see teams break up to stay down, more often then ever before. Sit back and watch over the next 2-3 yrs.
Feb. 15, 2023
gary c
418 posts
It goes all the way up to the oldest divisions.
I know a 80sAAA team that won quite a few tournament including worlds they were moved up. Said they were breaking up came back a year later under a knew name and now play AAA again.
They even wear the jerseys of there old team.
Feb. 18, 2023
Ollie4
Men's 60
8 posts
Here we go again, gary c comes on the message board to spew his, or her, accusations or displeasure of some team, person, or circumstance that he is fed up with. gary c always complains about, and has first hand knowledge of teams breaking up, coming back with the same jerseys, sandbagging, or committing some egregious violation of picking on lesser teams..
Attach a name to the teams or people you are accusing, and while your at it, tell everybody who you are. Anonymous posts like yours are always filled with hyperbole, contentions, and innuendos.
Welcome back, your disdain and anger have not diminished since 2011.Oh well, "You can't change the spots on a Leopard"
Feb. 18, 2023
gary c
418 posts
Ollie
I believe you live in the home of sandbagging.
HUNTSMAN GAMES !!!!!
Seems more people agree with me then you don't take it personal unless your on a team that cheats.
THE ONLY PERSON I HAVE EVER HAD PROBLEMS WITH IS EINSTEIN.
Seems your the one who attacks people you don't agree with.
Have a nice day Oliver.
Feb. 18, 2023
SSUSA Staff
3404 posts
gary c ... We recently reinstated your Message Board posting privileges following your promise to avoid the type of activity that resulted in you being placed on restriction previously ... It seems we may have erred in that decision ... NO MORE OF THIS style would be an excellent approach for you to adopt, immediately ... Thank you

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