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June 12
Larry S

61 posts
Ground ball to third base, the throw to first pulls first baseman into runner's path. Runner pulls up short of first as to
not run into 1st baseman. Any obligation of 1st baseman to give runner path to bag?
June 12
B.J.

1126 posts
this is a tough call and not seeing the actual play if in my judgement the runner would have been safe had the 1B not blocked his path I would have obstruction and call the runner safe .. the runner has to let a fielder have a path to field a batted ball but a bad throw is different.. the runner should still try to avoid a collision but he is not in jeopardy of being called for interference
June 13
STL0
Men's 60
234 posts
Had that happen to us in ISSA in Knoxville. The umpire said the runner had to allow the first basemen to field the throw which I disagreed with. That makes no sense that the runner can't make it to first because of a bad throw. It was pool play so we didn't get too excited about it. I just asked the umpire to think about it logically and that a bad throw by an infielder shouldn't have to make the runner just stop and accept the out. It's surprising that you don't see that more often. The first baseman in our instance had both bags blocked and the batter couldn't get to either of them so he stopped instead of colliding with the 1st baseman which was the safe thing to do.
June 19
Rob64
Men's 60
225 posts
It's surprising that anyone thinks the runner is safe because of fielding interference!
June 19
B.J.

1126 posts
Rob 64.. 1st if the defense blocks a runners path and he isn't making a play on a batted ball it would be called Obstruction not fielding interference.. 2nd I made a call of OBS just last month on a 2Bman who was given an oppurtunity by the runner to field a ground ball.. the runner was running a few feet behind the fielder but then the 2bman booted the ball and then he dove backwards into the runner try to retrieve the ball knocking him over..
I immediately signaled and called OBS and when the fielder tagged the runner after picking up the ball .. I awarded him 2b.. I explained to the defenses Mgr. that a runner has to allow a fielder the oppurtunity to make a catch which the runner did.. it's not the runners fault that the fielder booted the ball.. same as with a play at 1st if the 3bman made a good throw then the runner may have been out .. but by making a bad throw and pulling the 1Bman into the runners path if in my judgement the runner would have been safe at 1st had he not stopped to avoid the collision I would have OBS and award him the base... again this is umpire judgment
July 22
Bruce M
Men's 55
139 posts
My view of Rule 8.4:10A.4: (Runners are entitled to advance without liability to be put out): When a runner, while advancing or returning to a base, is obstructed by a fielder who neither has the ball nor is attempting to field a batted or thrown ball..... So, if in the judgement of the umpire, if the fielder is attempting to make a play on a thrown ball, there may not be an obstruction called. The batter-runner is not necessarily entitled to the running path.
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