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Discussion: Bat Testing at Worlds

So how long has it been taking to test all the bats a team is using?
Dbax, in Vegas for the 55's they did not check bats. Directors came and visually checked our bats. We pulled out the bat we were going to use for the game and left the rest in the bag. They did not ask if we had more bats with us. No compression testing at our field. I was told there was a player that hit a ball over the net at Arroyo and they checked the bat and it tested below 140 so they took the bat for further inspection. I never saw a compression tester at the field but im sure they had 1 there.
We were at Shadow Rock. It about 2 minutes per team. All they did was have the umpire run his hand down them to see if they were cracked.
AJC and outtashap3 ... You may have a terminology confusion issue ... What you are both describing is "bat inspection" by umpires to look for bats that may be cracked, and therefore, not to be used ... That's not the same thing as the "bat compression testing" Dbax referred to in his post ... That function occurred at all fields yesterday on a randomly selected teams' basis ...

There is absolutely no confusion here. I was only stating what happened to us. Dbax asked how long it took for each team to have its bats tested. There was no bat testing for our group. You are coreect, they did INSPECT our bats for cracks, but the issue i saw was they only inspected bats that were taken out of our bag's. Guys just pulled 1 bat of the bag while having at least 2 other bats in the bag that were never looked at. This is in no way a knock on SSUSA but merely how it was handled. I never saw a compression tester but like I said earlier, i did hear they suspected 1 bat , they did a compression test supposedly and it failed so if true , they did have a compression tester onsite.
No disagreement here, AJC ... But bats were compression tested at ALL venues yesterday ... It's entirely possible you were already off-campus when that happened, either before or after you played ... Thanks!
Dave,

So were bats just randomly tested then yesterday? I have multiple buddies that played on multiple 55 teams this past weekend and they all said not a single bat was compression tested in any of the 6 games they played this past weekend. They also sometimes the umps "Inspected" the bats prior to the game and sometimes they didn't. Two of my buddies were at Cheyenne and went up to the table where the compression tester was located and the people behind the table told them they personally didn't know how to use the compression tester and didn't know who did.
At Arroyo Grande our bats were check, only for cracked bats before each game. The bats that passed inspection were not marked so in my mind it was a waste of time.
Dave, i didnt want to sound like i was arguing so i didnt respond to your post yesterday and i was fine with letting it go to the black hole on page 2 since it was 5 or 6 messages down from the top. But since its back at the top ill add to how it went Saturday at Arroyo. Yesterday you mentioned that all bats were compression tested at all venues. That absolutely did not happen on Saturday. We were there all day ( 4 games ) . Once a day we had someone come to each dugout and inspect bats for cracks only. Like Bruce said, it was really a waste of time. They only looked at bats that were pulled out of the bag already. There were numerous backpack bags with multiple bats totally visible that were never looked at or inspected.

Again, i totally respect what you do and not trying to stir the pot. Im only saying exactly how it was handled for our bracket.
AJC,

I can't believe I'm actually doing this but in Dave's defense he never said ALL bats were compression tested. He said Bats were compression tested as ALL facilities yesterday.
Now that probably means they randomly tested a couple of bats at each facility. But to your point, I talked to 10 different guys that were playing 55s last weekend and not a single one ever saw a bat being compression tested(not saying they weren't) but they saw none. They all saw the same thing you did, umps running their hands down the barrel feeling and looking for cracks and like you said no one was asked to take all their bats out and have them examined.
When I went to the supply/storage room of the hotel this morning to pick up some things, there were 28 bats stacked in a corner of the room, "yellow tagged" for shipment to Sacramento post-tournament ... Those bats were volunteered for additional testing by their owners after failing random onsite compression testing during Session #1 ... Compression testing will resume today for Session #2 ...

Our bats were inspected before our second game today.
All passed.
I had cracked my bat in bp before the first game and I left it in the car.
After the second game as we were leaving BLD Tim did a compression teat on all of our bats. None failed.
So my Team, Express 60 major was picked to have our bats tested. They ask me to get my team together and line up. We were at BLD and they had me pick 4 random numbers between 1-10. Not player numbers, just random #s between 1 and 10. I gave them 4 numbers and they compression tested 4 of my players bats. They were looking for bats that tested at 140 or below. Of the bats they tested, 2 from each selected player, 8 bats total every bat except one tested above 160, and many were above 170, except one bat. That bat was an Empire and it tested at 142. They said that bat was within the required number, but just barely. According to SSUSA any bat testing 140 or below must br voluntarily surrendered to SSUSA for 30 days before being returned.If you don't surrender the bat, the player will be suspended. If the same bat is tested again later at a tournament the player will get a substantial suspension. In other words, if the bat test 140 or below previously, don't bring it to a tournament.....ever.

Did anyone else have this experience?
Jeffery,

So they tested 8 bats from 4 people, were those bats that were being used in the games? If a person had 4 bats in their bag who decided which 2 of the 4 were getting tested? Seems odd that they can just demand 2 bats from a single player instead of testing their bat that is being used in a game.
I was incorrect in my previous post. One bat failed, tested at 125psi.
It was an old green Adidas that my teammate didn't use or never planned to use.
They took the bat for further inspection and gave him a receipt.
So, what happens in this case. If the bat comes back as tampered with. Just for the bat being in his bag. Does everybody get punished? No proof that it was ever used. The potential was there, just because it was in his bag. But still no proof it was used. Not trying to stir any pots here. Just curious. I truly hope this bat comes back as just being old and well used.
I hope so also. He did say he bought the bat new so in my mind he has no worries.
SD00,

this is why I kept asking for the entire procedure of the whole bat testing process. I honestly don't see how a player can be pushing for a bat that was in his bag if he had never used it in a game(at least for that tourney) situation. You can make the assumption that if it was altered and he knew( not saying it was in any way shape or form, just playing Devils advocate) there is a chance he could have pulled it out to use it or maybe he wouldn't. But simply having an altered bat while is shitty and stupid with how hot the stuff we already use is you can't be penalized for what you may or may not have done. Possessing an altered bat isn't against any laws and if it was all these bat shavers would be shut down.
But I asked countless amount of times of the entire process and was repeatedly ignored and then when someone else commented on it, there was a very vague process that left out the majority of the steps.
I'm sure there's lots of Jiggery Pokery going on within the players bats. The sooner the USSA cleans up the mess, the better.
My thoughts on this are pretty simple, I'm not sure I will buy a used bat from anyone I don't 100% trust. If my bat fails, I know it's not altered and I'm ok with it not being used in tournaments. I get that there is this, what if and how will they, but we pay them to keep it fair and I don't have better ideas (yet). The few bad apples have caused this and now we all have to pay for it. I asked at Westerns for them to test 2 of my bats. My new Miken 27oz Mike Dills. I had one in wrapper zero swings tested 170 the other had about 250-300 and tested 150. I think it was close to 98 degrees and bats had been in the Sun for hours. just my thoughts...
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