I know this has been beat to death but here goes. I have a Red Melee 12 that I started hitting last fall from NEW IN Wrapper purchased from Suncoast Rep. I have a Green Melle Max I used last year that was New In Wrapper after September purchased from a Suncoast REP.I have an Orenge Melee3 Reload hit all of last season purchased New In Wrapper from Suncoast in 2023. I am in 65AAA and IF I ASKED TO HAVE BATS CHECKED THE DAY BEFORE WE PLAY so I can Either leave them in CAR or in my Hotel Room if they are below compression that is gonna result in penalties?
If you ask to haver bats tested and they are below 140 you will have to surrender to SSUSA for further testing to see if bat has been altered. No penalty unless A. you refuse to surrender bat or B. bat is proven to be altered from mfg's testing. If you have a NIW bat that you have put swings on for 1 season it most likely won't test anywhere near 140.
Morng folks,been a lot of decent discussion here on BB concerning pre-game bat testing and rules/penalties as a result of. When I'm eventually asked to submit my bat for a compression check,and I'm standing at the table as I hand it over to that person,what should I then expect to see happen? Who is this individual that I have given custody of my bat to,who will run the test, will I actually see the test reading as I'm standing there,and how long does this procedure take. Pls note..just trying to understand what to expect as standard practice. Tku george
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what should I then expect to see happen? - Your bat get compression tested
Who is this individual that I have given custody of my bat to? - The site Director or U.I.C.
who will run the test? - The site Director or U.I.C.
will I actually see the test reading as I'm standing there? - Depends on your eyesight. Ask
how long does this procedure take? - Likely less than 45 seconds
Okie dokie,good enough. Tku for timely reply Dave. George
After spending a lot of time reading about this subject I'm now convinced that measuring compression of a bat is pretty lame way to rule out 'illegal' bats. The field testers are not laboratory instruments that have the technology or reliability to be consistent.
ASTM Standard F-1890, which is what the industry uses to test and rate bats, doesn't use "compression" for rating bat performance because it is unreliable as a measure of bat performance.
Here is a great article discussing compression.
https://www.batdigest.com/blog/bat-compression-test-results/
The other issues that it appears to get to 140 without the bat actually cracking the bat would have to be "shaved" which is obviously illegal.
While I can't prove it, it appears that if you tried to "roll" a bat down to the minimum(140) the rolling process itself would cause the bat to crack. I got this from a couple of folks that do bat rolling, as a retired engineer I am fascinated by this subject.
Vito, in slowpitch softball, the bat/batter is the only thing that isn't a constant in the game...the ball is the same for everyone, the pitch speed is with 1-2 MPH for every pitch, the distance is 50-60 feet...so all the variables are the bat and the batter...testing compression is probably the only way to make sure the only controllable number is the same for everyone....the bat....BUT in all my playing softball and seeing compression numbers, most hot senior bats are at the 180-190 range...as soon as it starts going below that, the walls just compress too much for stronger hitters, that the trampoline effect is negated....I am sure there are far more technological measurements to see the real effects of these numbers but as of now, the compression tester is the easiest, cheapest method so far
Yeah, I get that it's probably the only easy way to police it. But your numbers indicate that the "hot' bat is well above the illegal number. Which probably means many altered bats make it past any screening.
