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| Nov. 18, 2007 CAT 200 posts | Bring back 3 game Round Robins !!?? I believe that the organizations need to bring back the three game RRs. Sure, SSUSA gives you five total games, if you loose the first two games in the tourn., they then give you the extra game. However, by playing the 3 RR games before the double elim., it gives everyone an opportunity to get some games in before the start of the tourn. I have been reading the message board for the past few years and I have seen more and more disgrunted players than ever before. I feel that it is because they are not getting enough playing time. And please do not use the excuse that the addtional game tires you out. We all should be in good enough shape to play or you should consider the subservient role of coaching bases. |
| Nov. 18, 2007 Enviro-Vac Men's 65 489 posts | I agree 100% Cat. When we travel to a destination we are going there to play...the more games the better. I too would prefer 3 RR games (or more) and a double-knock rather then the current formula. That may well mean though that SSUSA has to go back to 4-day weekends or more night-games, which could decrease the number of teams attending? …I don’t know. If the 2-RR game structure is considered necessary to get a tournament done in 3-days, then I'm OK with it as that extra 4th day does make it more difficult to get players to travel and our team likes to travel. |
| Nov. 20, 2007 OREO Men's 60 88 posts | EVIRO, 5GAME GUARANTEE IS 5GAMES. 3 GAMES 1ST DAY, EITHER 2RR & 1ELIM, OR 3 RR IST DAY. STILL COULD BE DONE IN 3 DAYS DEPENDING ON HOW MANY TEAMS. PHOENIX WAS DONE IN 3 DAYS AND LOTS OF TEAMS THERE. WE DON'T MIND EITHER WAY. BUTTTT, WE DO MIND NOT HAVING "2" UMPS FOR ELIMINATION GAMES!!!!!!! |
| Nov. 20, 2007 the wood Men's 65 1123 posts | I cannot speak for all major + players but the majority of the ones that I have spoken with seem to dislike the 3 seeding games. It was fine in MN (SSWS) as we only had 4 teams in our division... so 3 seeding games worked out well. We feel that we only need 2 games to prepare ourselves for the DE, which is why we're there. There seems to be zero correlation between winning seeding games and finishing in the top 2 positions. With this being the case, why string it our further? Bear in mind that we have fewer teams in our division than the others so perhaps their (major, AAA, AA) feelings would be different. Some major + guys take it one step further and say that a 4 game guarantee is plenty for a National Event. This is what SPA offers, as an example. Regional qualifiers and pre-season events? We'd be ok with a greater guarantee (i.e. 5 games). BW |
| Nov. 20, 2007 OREO Men's 60 88 posts | A FEW YEARS AGO THE SPA TOOK A SURVEY OF MGRS. ON A "SMALL" VARIETY OF SUBJECTS. AS MANY QUESTIONS & CONCERS THAT COME UP ON THIS SITE AS WELL AS I'M SURE ON THE SPA SITE, PERHAPS THE SUMIT SHOULD LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF A SURVEY ON A LARGER SCALE TO GET ENOUGH INPUT FROM FROM MANAGERS TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE PROBLEMS EXPRESSED BY US ALL. WE NOR THEY WILL EVER BE ABLE TO ADDRESS ALL CONCERNS, HOWEVER THERE ARE MANY COMMON ISSUES TO BE ADDRESSED. |
| Nov. 20, 2007 Dbax Men's 65 2101 posts | At the Tournament of Champions, we came through the losers bracket after losing our first two games to win the tournament. I am totally in favor of two seeding games and three game guarantee in the double elimination. The seeding games are pretty much meaningless anyway. |
| Nov. 26, 2007 wagon487 Men's 55 578 posts | the wood, how many teams were at the majors+ SSWC in MN? I played for damons and we did win (55 major +) out in Palm Springs in 06 , (which is a great place for a tourny) did not go beacuse only one team had signed up. Thanks |
| Nov. 26, 2007 wagon487 Men's 55 578 posts | SHOULD BE 50 not 55 in the above massage. |
| Nov. 26, 2007 the wood Men's 65 1123 posts | Wagon: you asked how many teams were in MN... in our division there were 4 (55 major +)... I do not know how many teams they had overall but I do know that their numbers were down. It was a much better event than the one in Palm Springs (2006)... better weather, better facilities, better format, etc. Greg Maas (& SSWS) received a lot of feedback from PS and they remedied most of the previous problems. The only remaining issue was the 'ASA thing'. Because they used ASA rules (and its effect on equipment) there were teams that didn't attend. Secondarily, there were other teams that didn't go due to the decreased numbers... such as your team. They have surveyed a lot of managers subsequent to the MN event and it is my very strong belief that the 2008 event will be something that we will all enjoy. BW |
| Nov. 26, 2007 turn2 489 posts | I like the 2 game seeds and that is enough practice for my 60 guys. It is only practice and means nothing. Why tire yourself out for seeding games when the double elimanation is what matters. thanks, donnie Spicer Properties / Turn Two 60 Major Plus |
| Nov. 26, 2007 wagon487 Men's 55 578 posts | THE WOOD, thanks for answering my question. Plam Springs was nice, the fields, not so nice. |
| Nov. 26, 2007 audieh Men's 60 249 posts | I totally agree with Bob Wood. Two round robin games and then start the tournament. The important thing for us is to end the tournament at a reasonable time on Sunday in case we are in the championship games so that we can get flights out starting at 6:00 PM. Championship games starting after 1:00 PM require most of us getting back into Florida on Monday afternoon which results in another day of missed work and an extra night in a motel. I'd rather play late on Friday and Saturday and get out by 1:00 PM on Sunday. |
| Nov. 26, 2007 chollis 81 posts | Well said bro! |
| Nov. 27, 2007 BruceinGa Men's 70 3233 posts | You also have my vote to play Friday and Saturday night in order to finish early Sunday afternoon! |
| Nov. 27, 2007 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | i'm with ya alls with the getting done early on sunday,i watch the lvssa not get done till 8 pm for the 55AAA the first weekend of oct.thats not good for anyone but a local team.even the socal teams have a 4-5 hr drive back. |
