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| Oct. 28, 2004 STONEMAN Men's 50 535 posts | CHEATERS or NOT? I know of a player who every yr. players on several teams. Every yr., one of his teams wins a MAJOR WORLD. @ the LVSSA, this player did not play on his regular team.( Which plays in the Major Division.) @ L.V., this players 'super' team again won another Major World. This player needs to move up to Major Plus. This player & His team broke the LVSSA RULES. Players are to come to Vegas & play on their regular team & not combine several teams. @ LVSSA WORLD this year, several teams were moved up 1-2 Divisions & several players were not allowed to play because these men dropped down 2 Divisions. IN THE Major Plus Division, one Mid West team had another Major Plus teams 1st & 3rd basemen play on their team. The 2 in question pitched & played 1st. The two teams in question, need to play by the rules set down by LVSSA. NEXT YR, LVSSA WILL BE LOOKING HARD @ SUCH PLAYERS & TEAMS. LAST POINT: The 2 teams, need to forfeit what was won in Vegas. Let's see if, these men HAVE any HONOR. |
| Oct. 28, 2004 BruceinGa Men's 70 3233 posts | Do you think these guys will come forward just because you say it will be the honorable thing to do? I think you should mention names and teams so everyone knows who they are! |
| Oct. 28, 2004 stig 52 Men's 50 46 posts | This also happened in the SSUSA World in Las Vegas. I know of two teams in th 55 division that picked up at least two quality players from from a team that won a world tournament this year. How is this possible? It's not fair to the other teams. I am sure this happens quite a lot. The tournament directors have the ability to stop this but they just care about getting that extra team in the tournament. SPA seems to come the closest to keep this from happening or I have not seen it. The senior game will die like open ball is doing if we don't address these problems. |
| Oct. 29, 2004 Walk 192 posts | Stoneman, There is a Major Plus team in the Mid West area? I would like to know who they are because I know of none. Walk |
| Oct. 29, 2004 STONEMAN Men's 50 535 posts | BRUCE: I did not play in LVSSA tournament. I asked the STARS & REBELS, if, they wanted me to bring this fact to the tournament DIRECTOR. I was told to leave it alone. The team Managers or Captains are the persons that should bring these facts forward. It appears that some players do not want to be label a rat bas.... . TOM S.: As far as SPA, I know that one Mid West team has won their division three yrs. in a row. Why, is this team still rated ..... ?WHY, r some teams allowed to win a WORLD & the next yr. r still in the same DIVISION? WALK: Teams that touch the Western Great Lakes, r these teams not part of the Mid West? LAST POINT: The different TOURNAMENT DIRECTORS are now talking to one another; sending player rosters to each other; & asking each other to check out certain teams & rate teams. |
| Oct. 29, 2004 THECAT 65 posts | Here is another one for the LV tourn. AKA SSUSA. We were a AA 55 team wishing to play in the AAA 55 division last year in order to hit home runs. We new we were cometitve but did not have the guns to take it all. We talked to Sacramento prior to entering and go the ok. We arrived in LV and attended the meeting and at that time were told we were now playing in the AA div. and either had to give up 5 runs or allow 11 fielders. The jest of the whole thing is now we were playing teams we played competetively through out the year at other tourn in the 55AA bracket and now had to give them 5 runs to start because we were now considered a AAA 55 team. The toun dircter and staff when asked to change us back said "to bad". We came in as a AAA team. We stayed and played in the winds and got laughed at by the other teams we had played before. We did not even attemp to play this year and am glad to here some of the same crap is going on this year. Now maybe if enough teams pull out or let the director in Sac. and other members of his so called staff know how we feel something might get the attention of future entrants. We love the game but hate the politics that have now entered SENIOR SOFTBALL. |
| Oct. 30, 2004 Walk 192 posts | Stoneman that would be the upper midwest thus they are not really near me. I was just wondering about there being a team in this area. I was not questioning your claim I am sure you are right. Walk |
