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Jan. 26, 2009
Men's 70
499 posts
What are your thoughts on this?
We recently had a girls high school basketball game here in the DFW area in which one team beat the other 100-0. It's caused a lot of debate, with officials of the winning school apologizing, and the coach of the winning team being fired (and by the way, he played his starters well into the 4th quarter).

Many have expressed the sentiment that the winning team should have eased up when it became an obvious blow-out; but some have said you teach kids to play hard and you shouldn't ask them to do otherwise just because they are winning big.

I've been on both sides of one sided games, even in Senior ball, including a 46-1 loss, and more recently we put up 40 on a team that was just having an off-day. It's embarassing to lose by a lopsided score, but to me, it's just as embarassing for the other team to obviously slack off.

Just interested in comments board members might have on this situation. If faced with a similar situation on the softball field, how would you handle it as a player? As a coach?
Jan. 26, 2009
Men's 60
242 posts
I don't believe any team likes to be on the losing side of a blowout. In basketball you can pull your starters and require a minimum of five passes between shots. That's easy for the coach. You hold the score down and your team has a chance in a game to practice another important part of the game. Maybe also require all shots to be taken outside the paint.

In softball it's a little different. I have been on the winning side a few times of blowouts. I then have had players intentionally make outs or bat opposite handed. I can tell you that batting opposite handed is not good because the other team feels like we were just rubbing it in their face. We have had opponents sometimes just give up but if they don't try hitting to opposite field BUT STAY AWAY FROM THEIR PITCHER.
Jan. 26, 2009
the wood
Men's 65
1123 posts
The coach takes an oath to do what is in the best interest of the kids, his/her players as well as the opponents'. There is no way that he/she can justify beating the piss out a team like that.
I don't know that she/he should have been fired though.. maybe just censured... perhaps there were other factors, too.
Jan. 26, 2009
Men's 60
1051 posts
I have been on both sides of blowouts..........If the game is in hand then I prefer to come out of the game. It cost me a batting championship in Seattle in the ASA 45's. They changed the rule next year to 20 at bats instead of 20 offical at bats. I was walked 5 times 3 intentional, pulled myself out of 2 blowout games to give someone else a change to swing........I do not believe in padding stats............some NoCal teams do...........Coach should have been fired..........100-0 means you were trying to hit a 100 and you kept playing tight defense instead of zone.
Jan. 26, 2009
Men's 65
22 posts
The other team was Dallas Academy which has eight girls on its varsity team and about 20 girls in its high school. It is winless over the last four seasons. The academy boasts of its small class sizes and specializes in teaching students struggling with "learning differences," such as short attention spans or dyslexia. They were still shooting 3 pointers in the 4th qtr and were up 59-0 at half-time.
My opinion is that the winning coach should have shown some mercy. You cannot compare softball to basketball.
Jan. 26, 2009
Men's 55
58 posts
I feel bad for dallas academy the winning coach knew going in that d. a. was not very good.Nobondy needs to get beat like that.Softball4b what nocal teams pad stats?
Jan. 26, 2009
Men's 50
3114 posts
The key to playing any game
is fairness and competition.
The minute it was learned the other team
was not nearly on the same level
the real contest was over and an exhibition began.
The better team is relieved of its responsibility to compete
as there was no genuine competition present.
The superior team coach should have instructed the team
to work on specific aspects of their game,
like passing 5-10 times before any shot or only bank shots or only bounce passing
with no fast breaks.
There's no good lesson learned from taking advantage of those
who cannot compete with you in any sport or contest
any time, anywhere and any place.
Jan. 26, 2009
Men's 65
570 posts
We have a local Girls team here in WNC that the Dallas team could beat They where held scoreless for a half. the othe team played a tight zone and they still had touble scoring but just can not tell you third string to lay down it might be the only time they get to play alot. but the final was 79 to 11 and ugly.
Don Ward
Kittrell softball
Jan. 26, 2009
Play ball
4 posts
I fail to see the pride or the honor in this hollow win.

Jan. 26, 2009
Men's 65
4549 posts
Maybe in a way, D A actually won.
Jan. 26, 2009
Men's 60
1051 posts
I used the wrong term. I did not mean pad stats, I meant run up the score. The teams are no longer playing, the players are now playing on other teams. I should never have said anything because I won't name names. It just really irks me to see a guy punch the ball to the opposite field just to try and save his batting average when you are winning by 15+ or to continually take the extra base when there is absolutely no chance to catch up because they know you have 3 hurt players.
Jan. 26, 2009
Men's 55
58 posts
you are right there ego gets in the way and i know some of them played with and against them so i do not need names.sorry mike i thaught you ment something else.
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