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| May 28, 2009 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | TEXAS HALF CENTURY Any comments on the Texas Half Century tournament in Georgetown last weekend ? Just wanted to know what the teams thought who played in this . |
| May 28, 2009 manny43 7 posts | I was not very happy with the way the tournament was handled. There was one team that used an illegal player, he did not even use his real name on the lineup card given to the umpire. When he was reported, the umpire did not verify his age, the guy walked away from the dugout,the game continued and then the tournament director said we had no proof. Just goes to show that you even at our age, there is no integrity and honesty. The manager and several players knew the guy was illegal but they all kept quiet. |
| May 28, 2009 J R 251 posts | I would an illegal under age player was used against me . he was removed from the game but no penalty was handed out.I played Same team 4 times.I was asked to play for 4 differant teams. I saw a 50 aaa team with a major + player on it. I saw players i knew had qualified with other teams in the same age bracket.I later found out that a player that played against me did not even have a card he was just picked up.We played and are no qualified and no injuries .Not run well no control of players |
| May 31, 2009 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | I would just like to say thanks to Keith Parker and his lovely wife for doing the best they could given all the rain that we had in the Georgetown tournament. Keith, I frankly don't know how you do it.You are ther TD, player amd try to run your team all at the same time.I have ran a team and played, but to add the TD to these duties is beyond beleif, GOOD JOB !! I know you don't hear that near enough.Tell your pretty wife, GOOD JOB TOO !!! Kenny #6 |
| May 31, 2009 DoubleL10 Men's 70 907 posts | All too often folks only get on the board to criticize. Let me agree with Kenny that Keith and Paula are first class folks who truly love the game and give it their best. I also have tried to play and manage a team and that is difficult at best. What Keith does by running the THC is above and beyond! Thanks for all the hard work and hope to see you down the road! Larry Lopez |
| May 31, 2009 manny43 7 posts | Sir, I believe you asked for comments, I give credit where credit is due, you have to agree that some of the fields, especially, the #2 field was really really bad around the second base area, just glad that no one got hurt. As for the tournament itself, you can say it was a sucess because it did not have to be cancelled. However, when you ask for comments be prepared to get both positive and negative. We are not all going to agree but thats the right we have as human beings, I respect your views, the least you can do is respect mine even if you don't agree with me. Good luck on your next tournament. Manny |
| May 31, 2009 jim16 Men's 65 180 posts | Some are going to think that my thoughts are not impartial because of my close relationship with Keith and The Texas Half Century, I understand that but....This tournament was handled incedibly well. There wasnt a rain storm it was two separate storms. One storm could have caused a rainout but the fields were worked hard and we played. Then came the second one on sat evening and the fields were drenched again and again the fields were as playable as POSSIBLE. There were a number of players who went home early thinking there was no way to get it in and thereby leaving teams short players. Care was taken to see that players added were LEGAL. Players from 65 played with 60's and 60's played with 55's and all were looked at to be sure they were legal. Some softball players will complain no matter what but in this tourney...We got to play, we got lots of great softball and lesser people would have just rained it out and cancelled. Keith, Paula and UIC Jim Ormsby stayed and made it as good as possible. How can we complain when such an outstanding effort was made to get it in. |
| May 31, 2009 J R 251 posts | Jim you were guilty. Have you forgotten that i got Eddie Scott removed from left center field from your team during our game . Because he was only 60 playing on your 65 team .Jim you did not turn in your roster til after the tournament was over.Tell me how that is ok. Keith did a great job. He needed more help.People took advantage and did not check in.I have a great admiration for Keith and Paula. But when one writes the check that gives you the right to complain.Jack Roden Texas Xperts 65's |
| June 1, 2009 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | manny43, I did ask for comments.As for me agreeing with you about the fields and you mentioned second base, that's where I was playing and EVERYONE HAD TO PLAY IN THE SAME CONDITIONS, NO EDGE EITHER WAY !I always hear the positive and negative and have no problem with you speaking your mind and I never said I didn't respect your views, I am saying I went to Georgetown to PLAY SOFTBALL SAT. AND SUN. and I got to play thanks to Keih, Paula and the grounds crew, they did the best they could do with the situation.If I would of been ask to play on ANY team because their players didn't come back and it was OK, I would of played.That is why I was there toPlay SOFTBALL. |
| June 1, 2009 manny43 7 posts | Actually #6, I apologize, because it was DoubleL 10, who made the statement about folks only getting on board to critize, but JR said it all with his comment about illegal players, which is what my comment was about. As for the conditions, I did not say anyone got an edge, I said "Thank God nobody got hurt". We also went to play softball and I apologize if we like to play by the rules, which is why they are made. Thank you for allowing me to voice my opinion. |
| June 1, 2009 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | manny43, sounds like your being sarcastic about playing by the rules,we all want to play by the rules, but sometimes they may have to be bent to finish the tournaments.This is not the first time or the last that things happen.No fault, get over it ! |
| June 1, 2009 jim16 Men's 65 180 posts | JR, Once again you open your mouth when you brain isnt quite functioning. My roster was turned in when we arrived on friday and as you were right in the middle of everything that was bitchy you darn well know that our 10th player arrived just at game time and was brought by our 9th player from Houston who thought he was playing in a 60 tournament even though he is 67 and his friend that he brought, I didnt know his name just that I assumed he was a 65 player. We took the field and you so joyously pointed him out as a 60 division player. He arrived 5 minutes after game time and was a complete stranger to me. When you pointed him out ...I halted the game to get a ruling on who he was and his age. He immediately told us his age and he thought this was a 60 division. I told him he couldnt play and we started with 9 players. We were an at large team with no intention of qualifying and didnt care if we lost 6 six in a row. We got a team in at the urging of the tournament officials so as to have enough teams to have a tournament. The real problem was that we beat you pretty soundly with an inferior team. You screamed and hollered at your teammates telling them they were losers and didnt even try. It was just our day an we threw together a legal team that had a bunch of guys who were encouraged and not discouraged and we beat you pretty soundly. If you remember, your team wanted to quit and took a vote whether to play the last game or not. We had a legal team that didnt really care if we won or lost and just picked each other up and had fun. We won. You complained and argued and protested and lost by playing lousy softball. The tournament was one of the best run tournaments with incredible weather problems destroying their hard laid out plans. They regrouped with plan "B" an incredible plan "B" that worked. If you had just inspired your team to play better, you too would be be praising the Texas Half Centuy for a job well done. Well, you wrote the check and you say you have the right to complain. You have quality players and since you write the check you should work a little harder to motivate them instead of denigrating them and then maybe you'll think the tournment was a good one. |
| June 2, 2009 LP 317 posts | #6 i have to disagree with you on bending the rules.if your talking about letting illegal players be on teams , thats unfair to the teams that are playing by the rules. just because it rained doesnt make it ok to have under aged players fill in on a team. there was major players playing on AA teams and major plus playing on AAA teams. letting teams do this makes the whole thing about senior softball seem like and outlaw organization. i hope it doesnt happen in any more tournaments. i dont go to these to argue,except with the umpire every once in a while ha. lets all play by the rules and the best teams win. |
| June 2, 2009 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | jim16, well said !!!! LP, when I say the rules have to bent, I mean that if they had to go to one pitch, that was fine,not being able to call anything at second base because they couldn't se it because it was under water, that was fine,not getting the 5 runs like they we meant to be given, ok.You need to go back and read my post.It states ,we all want to play by the rules, BUT !!!See you in Dallas, and HAPPY BIRTHDAY.8-15, HOPE YOU BRING YOUR BAT. |
| June 2, 2009 361 3 posts | #6,It seems you keep missing the point and the point being is that an "illegal player was used".This was brought up to the umpire and Keith.Maybe a little bit of politics played a part in it,but nothing came out of it.As far as rules being adjusted because of the rain that is not the issue.Go back to manny43 first post and you will see how you got off the subject.This tournament was well run considering the all rain and my congratulations to Keith but when you allow players and managers to break the rules than it give the tounament as a whole a black mark. |
| June 2, 2009 manny43 7 posts | Sir, Thank you, I was not going to reply anymore, but what you said is precisely my point, I was not critical of playing in the type of weather we had (Thank God for the rain), or the one pitch option and the five run rule per inning (those are rules of the game and they were followed), I think #6 needs to get himself a rule book or reread his posts before sending them. PS: I fail to see the sarcasm in my previous reply either. Thanks for the fun guys, its being quite a Therapy Session (no sarcasm either, I mean it). Manny |
| June 2, 2009 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | 361 and manny43, You can please some of the people some of the time,If the guy walked off like you said, how could anyone decide if he was legal or not if he wasn't there.I don't need a rule book to decide on that.I was up at the sign in table and saw several players get turned away because they didn't have an ID, which is always requried ! |
| June 2, 2009 361 3 posts | #6 I do not know if you were there at that particular time or not,but it is apparent that you and Keith share the same views,right or wrong,so go ahead and close your eyes to what was illegal to make it right in your eyes.Hopefully this kind of shenanigans will not happen at other senior softball tournaments. |
| June 2, 2009 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | 361, I don't know who is right, all I am hearing is yours and manny43 side.Jim16 from the message above doesn't seem to agree, I guess we are all wrong and you two are right.Either way, the next tournament you play in tell all your payers to be legal and if there is someome trying to play who isn't I think that they should be kicked out and so should the team.When your tournament director, playing and coaching like Ketih was, its hard to keep everybody honest.I do agree with you that all should be playing fair and legal.Enough said. |
| June 2, 2009 361 3 posts | One last time #6:Jim16 and manny43 are two different areas,one is men's 65 and the other is men's 60.All teams should have some kind of integrity,especially at our age and not resort to cheating.I do agree with you on one item, enough said. |
| June 2, 2009 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | Good luck to all the rest of 2009. |
| June 3, 2009 Fredneck 1 posts | Hey! All I know is; I got to play two days of softball; the tournament was undermanned but run as best they could under the circumstances; since nobody is complaining about the umpires I have to think there's general agreement they were good; everybody played under the same crummy weather conditions; a couple of guys played who shouldn't have but if it were not undermanned that probably wouldn't have happened; and my wife got two days of shopping at the outlet mall. What's not to like? |
| June 4, 2009 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | Fredneck, I am with you we played 6 games in two days and was muddy as hell, but we played and got it in. |
