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Discussion: half swings

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Sept. 11, 2009
113 posts
half swings
i am sick of players complaining about good balls and good bats and then take half swings and baltimore chops .some players can do both.i realize this is a skill but a skill i do not want to is hard enough to play defense as it is with the good balls and bats but it can be very dangerous for the inf. to move in to take away the chop and or half swing.i believe that both the half swing and chop should be outlawed.if not both at least one.the young kids are doing this in d&e ball.our game is changing from homeruns and place hitting to no homeruns and semi i the only one who dislikes this?its like golfing without your woods or racing 4 cylinder cars keep on hitting jr11
Sept. 11, 2009
2502 posts
Both of the circumstances you mention should result in the batter being called out under properly applied SSUSA rules.

Rulebook 7.6 - BATTER IS OUT (at page 53)
E.When the batter bunts or chops the ball, or does not take a full swing when deliberately hitting a pitched ball.
Sept. 11, 2009
Men's 60
1023 posts
JR a full swing has to be attempted. The kids are doing the full swing lob shot which in my opinion is an art and the most interesting is the full swing where the ball hits the handle and completely deadens the ball similiar to a bunt also an art. Nerve racking for a defense and highly effective. Saw a kid in a B tournament a couple years ago hit two balls off the handle between 3B and the Pitcher for easy hits, our 3B comes in and the hitter then proceeded to unload a rocket that would have went through our 3B if it had hit him. I used to hit the ball off the handle on purpose but would alert the umpire what I was going to do so he would not call me out for bunting. I don't have a problem doing it or having it done to me the rules allow it.
Sept. 11, 2009
113 posts
lecak,i agree it is an art.without the good balls and bats this skill would be history.i have played with the kids and with the senior circut and not once have i seen someone called out for the chop.when we were young we were called out for the chop more often then not and noone tried the soft swing because it wouldnt work.i prefer to take a full swing the way that the game was meant to play and by no means do i take away the fact that hitting the lob or chop is a skill i just feel that these swings are not the way the game should be played with the equipment we have today
Sept. 12, 2009
Men's 55
183 posts
There are few umpires out there that have the courage to call the batter out for a half swing or chop. If it were called more, you'd put an end to it in a hurry. The game isn't meant to be played like that. Skill or no skill, It's very difficult for me to believe that anyone including Lecak, gets any satisfaction out of getting on base like this. This really holds true for the kids. People are in the wrong game if you think this is good for softball.
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