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| Jan. 16, 2010 seniorsbfart 44 posts | Flared or cone knob ??? what is the purpose of putting a flared coned knob on your bat ? |
| Jan. 17, 2010 DoubleL10 Men's 70 907 posts | For me it's two things: (1) comfort and (2) it allows me to extend another finger off the knob giving me a little "longer" bat. |
| Jan. 17, 2010 seniorsbfart 44 posts | What is I hold the bat in the normal way ? what would cone flare do ? I have heard it makes it easier on the hands to swing. Is this true ? |
| Jan. 17, 2010 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | senior,not sure it would,but if you drop a finger or two off the end,it gives you a little better grip.if you don't drop any fingers off the end i'm not sure if it helps any.i know this doesn't help ya any but thats all i can tell ya on this. |
| Jan. 17, 2010 tinman Men's 50 75 posts | I AGREE WITH DoubleL10.I WOULD NOT HIT WITHOUT IT AND MANY HAVE FOLLOWED AFTER TRYING MY BATS. |
| Jan. 18, 2010 Dirty Men's 50 1371 posts | senior, FYI. If you are looking to drop fingers, overlap, or any other non-standard grip they can all be done just as easily without any gizmos. |
| Jan. 18, 2010 Rip 20 posts | Yes you can do it without the cone but in my opinion its not even close to being as comfortable. With the cost for one being between $3 to $5 get one unless you're very frugal. |
| Jan. 18, 2010 Dirty Men's 50 1371 posts | I am sure people can be different, but I have been dropping two fingers for over 20 years and started interlocking a couple of years ago without any contraptions and no discomfort at all. My son played baseball into college dropping his pinky, and again no discomfort. Not a matter of money at all, it just isn't needed. |
| Jan. 18, 2010 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | so a cone is a gizzmo now,yeah right.i guess as usual dipty you have nothing good or useful to say,so you have to demean it.to me i use it and feel real comfortable with them,it gives me a better grip on the bat handle.i actually started building up with tape at the knob long before the knob cuff came out,guess that is a gimmick also. |
| Jan. 18, 2010 Dirty Men's 50 1371 posts | What would you call it? It sure isn't part of the stock bat. All I was doing was clarifying that it is not essential for altering the standard grip, and that it sure isn't a matter of money. Why so sensitive, sad puppy? That time of the month? And yes, that use of tape would be a gimmick too. Why are you always so insecure? |
| Jan. 18, 2010 diehard Men's 55 246 posts | For years I used tape to taper the end of my bats. A few years ago I switched to the Knobcuff because some associations do not allow you to taper the bat with tape, it is considered altering the bat. So it is easier to remove a knobcuff than it is to remove tape. I find the use of a tapered end to be more comfortable to me. It's just a personal preference. There are many players in MLB that taper the end of their bats, and I'm sure they would say the same thing. Whether you need it or not, is not the question. But, as a hitter, if you feel it helps you in any way, then that's all that matters. |
| Jan. 18, 2010 Enviro-Vac Men's 65 489 posts | For me it’s comfort. I have mild arthritis in my bottom three fingers of my bottom hand and find a flare or cone reduces the stress on the bottom three fingers. |
| Jan. 18, 2010 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | Comfort. Fits very nicely between the palm and pinky finger when gripping the bat. They have 3 types I know of; the orig cone, then one a little longer with 2 groves or areas for fingers and another that is also longer but has a ring you attach to pinky the finger and then attach to bat so when you swing and release the bat it stays with you. It becomes a part of you in case their illegal where you play or so the theory goes. |
| Jan. 19, 2010 seniorsbfart 44 posts | I ordered one on line and will give it a try. Also ordered a new bat so maybe all the newest will change my hitting for the good LOL. |
| Jan. 19, 2010 4Four4 Men's 60 87 posts | Is it illegal to have more than 2 layers of tape but not illegal to use things like these?? I'm not against either but this seems inconsistant to me. DH - #4 The Tub |
| Jan. 19, 2010 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | 4Four4, At the National Tournament,they made me take the tape off the knob before I could use it. |
| Jan. 19, 2010 diehard Men's 55 246 posts | 4Four4, It is legal in SSUSA and SPA, except for the tape like #6 said. But not legal in ASA or ISSA. |
| Jan. 19, 2010 SLOBALL1 Men's 50 174 posts | knob cuffs are not legal ASA |
| Jan. 19, 2010 salio2k Men's 60 547 posts | Rule 3, Section 1D Safety Grip......... last sentence,........A bat having a flare or cone shaped grip attached is legal. The rule was changed last year. |
| Jan. 19, 2010 diehard Men's 55 246 posts | Salio, Is that rule for ASA? Because I had to take mine off last year in Burlington. |
| Jan. 19, 2010 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | That's ASA. |
| Jan. 19, 2010 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | Second time this has happened coming BACK to this page from another site. Rule was re done in Nov 09 took effect 2010. |
| Jan. 19, 2010 diehard Men's 55 246 posts | Thanks Salio |
| Jan. 19, 2010 seniorsbfart 44 posts | ASA rule change: ASA now allows cone/fared knobs. They made the change starting 2010 according our P&R ASA director. |
| Jan. 19, 2010 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | yes ASA did change(knob cuff allowed) effective 1 jan 10,they also jacked the pitching height,which now is 6-10' from 6-12'. |
| Jan. 20, 2010 4Four4 Men's 60 87 posts | #6 and guys - Thanks. I was made to take a single layer of tape off my bat during a tourney game (in Canada) and it ruined the underlying grip beneath for the rest of the weekend. I will try this cone at the cages - I drop 1 finger now and would like it even higher. DH - #4 The Tub |
| Feb. 5, 2010 seniorsbfart 44 posts | After a few weeks with a the flared knob my hitting has improved. Seems to be more gentle on my hands. So how my hitting has gone from really bad to not-so-bad.... PS: This new Veteran bat has turned out to be a great bat and wondered if any of you guys have also hit one ? |
| Feb. 5, 2010 Stretch14 Men's 50 202 posts | I've been on a lot of websites and I've been told it's legal and it's not legal to have a bat rolled. Does anybody know or does it say in the rule book? Thanks.. |
| Feb. 6, 2010 seniorsbfart 44 posts | As best I can tell the flared knob is legal in senior softball. Many of the players have them on their bats. Not sure about 'rolled' as I how that relates to the knob. I do remember a bat called the axe which had a axe handle and we started to use it at the Huntsman games but the ump told us it was not legal in senior softball. However the flare I put on my bat is more like a cone...guess it is one in the same. |
| Feb. 6, 2010 andy25 Men's 50 17 posts | Never understood why any of the softball organizations made the flared knob illegal. It certainly doesn't enhance or alter the performance of the bat. I hang two fingers off the end of the bat, I'm a top hand push hitter and it helps me eliminate some of the top spin. I don't use a cone but if it makes you feel more comfortable, why not, no harm, no foul. |
