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Discussion: SSUSA California Cup

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Aug. 15, 2010
Men's 50
3114 posts
SSUSA California Cup
We had a great time this weekend and I promised a fellow player and poster
I wouldn't keep punching hard returns after each sentence, at least for this post. The weather was ideal, balls were just OK given the heat and not OK on Friday, which felt like
the hottest day of the tournament. They really respond directly to temperature
as Kevin and Dave and others
had said they would.

The umping was good culminating
in Tim Reed's decisive control of a game where both sides started to get chippy with one another behind some middle hitting that was obvious to all.
We all know better than to get in Tim's face about any call or directions
and this time for sure
it really helped.
Way to go, Rudy and Tim.

Some team saw to challenge a Combat
of one of my friends and old teammates
for excessive glue.
It's common knowledge that some of Combat's end caps were coming off
on a couple of their models
and this should never have escalated into a "situation".
We all know any bat that's been fixed
would NEVER look fixed to the naked eye.
A Combat with glue messed over the end cap is obviously someone just trying
to put the cap back on
which is/was/has been common and acceptable practice for senior players.

Fran and Dave were there and their bright and gracious best, greeting,
giving support and complements galore.
The concession stands were OK to good.
The maintenance teams were good.
There was lots of shade in Davis
and no shade in Woodland.

We played a very tough
OMEN team through the "IF" game.
Congrats to Gary Tryhorn, Otis,
Jimmy Hellam,
the Colonel, Dennis Dalton, Hank
and all the little omens
for a great contest of wills
decided by but a couple of runs.
Special consideration praise go to A/C Linde my friend and pitching mentor
who is and should be the Cy Young/Greg Mattox of senior softball.
Way to go, A/C for your exceptional spirit and combative excellence.

Way to go, NorCal Merchants
for getting by a powerhouse
Master Collision from Colorado.
Way to go Joe and little Bobby,
Walt, Larry and the rest for representing us in California
so well.

Next week, Big League Dreams
in Manteca for the NCSSA championships,
the plumb of our NorCal year.

Thanks again, Terry, Fran and Dave
for another well run and satisfying
tournament for us to play in.

Lively bats and balls forever.
Aug. 16, 2010
Men's 55
102 posts
Dam Joe, what's with all the drama with you 60 guy's? Middle wars, bats, etc.

We had none of that in the 50's. Nice weekend of softball. We MTC came up a little short (2nd). Played all but one game on the 350' fields. Ball played ok,(Trump Stote). Few homeruns, but plenty of defense and alot of running.

See you this weekend.

Aug. 16, 2010
90 posts
The breakdown of age groups into four separate divisions is wrecking havoc with the Cal Cup and does not bode well for the long term viability of this event. The balls did not handle the heat well at all. To ask senior outfielders to cover a baseball sized field, which is wholly inconsistent with any other tournament played all year, was questionable to say the least.

Joe, any chance that you can check on the ball for the NCSSA tourney? It does not list the ball to be used and that has resulted in unwanted outcomes recently in NCSSA events.

Thanks, appreciate your efforts on our behalf.
Aug. 16, 2010
Men's 50
3114 posts
I'm happy to say
the Baden Fire Ball which is THE ball
recommended by NorCal at this time
WILL BE the ball used in Big League Dreams in Manteca this coming weeekend.
Can't wait.
And for the record, I don't care
whose ball we use in senior tournaments
as long as it is good enough for us
to have a good time.
To date, the MCT ball from Trump,
the ones we'll be using in Vegas
are very good and the Baden Fire ball
we've used a bunch of times
already in NorCal do well in the heat.
Aug. 16, 2010
6 posts
I wasn't impressed with the soccer fields we had to play on in Woodland. 2 of the 4 fields were not close to normal 300' fields. Tim and Ron were good in their umpiring roles, but the other gentlemen were not on the same level.
Aug. 16, 2010
Omar Khayyam
1241 posts
udaplaya and dajaw1

Iíve seen the fairly new Woodland complex. They have some high quality temporary fences to reduce the field size. If they set them up, they will be at about 320. But if they are not set up, the fences are 370-380! Great for hardball, but not good for seniors. I heard they scheduled the oldest teams to play on the biggest fields. Must have been some tired legs.
Aug. 16, 2010
6 posts

One field had no fences, so even running down foul balls cut down the playing time for each game and the legs of our outfielders. One field had a right field fence at 270'. No consistency at all. Very Frustrating.
Aug. 16, 2010
Men's 60
873 posts
The Minor league field was 245' to right.
All in all the Woodland complex and fields were as good as can be expected.
As for the Umpires I agree Tim & Ron did their usual great job. The others we saw were far less then good umpires.
While we hit like sissies the Norcal bias was evident on several calls.
This weekend we just werent good enough to overcome it.
And for me there wont be a next year, I wont play another NORTHERN Cal Cup. My time, travel and cash will be spent locally and at events east.
Joe sorry I didntget the chance to talk this trip. Maybe somewhere down the road.
Aug. 16, 2010
Men's 60
873 posts
Congratulations to Last Call, you did it the hard way! Mauraders you represented very well!
Aug. 17, 2010
Men's 55
564 posts
SORRY U FEEL THAT WAY i did the 50 majors/+ teams and had a lot of good complements and had a great time doing them
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