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Discussion: Ultra vs. Combat for newbie

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April 15, 2011
4 posts
Ultra vs. Combat for newbie
I'm new to the Sr Softball world. I can still occasionally hit one out with a NSA/USSSA bat.
I'd like to know the differences between a Sr. Combat and an Ultra, from your experiences.
If from what I've been reading if correct, the Ultra will give you some more distance but less durability. So better value with a Combat????
What is the approx. distance difference?
Aren't all Combats a "soft" bat as compared with the stiffness of a Miken??
Just looking for some opinions. I know everyone has one. Thanks
April 17, 2011
Ernies 53
Men's 50
22 posts
The black miken ultra is hot right out out of the wrapper! But I wouldn't buy one, Two buckets(25ea) of practice balls and after 6 swings in a recent tournament @75 degrees and it was done, broke right in the sweet spot! I would rather have the durability than to keep having to keep adding to mikens bank account!
April 18, 2011
4 posts
Yeah, that doesn't sound like much of a value. I love other Mikens, haven't had an Ultra only swung someone elses, but can hardly justify getting so few swings out of them.
April 18, 2011
Men's 60
1706 posts
I have a red end load and black balanced Miken. I used them all of 2010, and they are still going strong. I never use them for BP, just games. I wouldn't hesitate to buy them again.
April 20, 2011
Men's 60
322 posts
Aren't all Combats a "soft" bat as compared with the stiffness of a Mike??

You need to reverse that statement. Mike U2s are thinner than Combats. And Combats will last at least 3 times longer. Combats-100 swings to break it in and Mikens 100 swings to CRACK. This has been my experience. I just cracked my Combat with well over 700 swings -A year of League, Tourneys and BP.
April 20, 2011
Men's 60
38 posts
Had a Miken 27 red end load and just about everybody on my team hit it last year in games and BP - had to have 250+ swings in it would still have it but was stupid and hit it in cold weather with old balls this spring. Have a 28 black Ultra 3 years old don't use it for BP any longer just for tournament games. Our 60 team all swing Ultra's and have not run into trouble with them breaking after a few swings

April 22, 2011
Men's 65
1000 posts
Joeball: Mikens and Combats are good bats but you should certainly consider a Reebok Melee in the process. Seeing more and more of them out there. My 28EL seemed to be on fire in Laughlin. Worth checking into.
April 22, 2011
Men's 50
2609 posts
Perhaps this year will be different, but the PREPONDERANCE of bats in Senior dugouts are Mikens.
April 22, 2011
Men's 60
240 posts
My experience has been that both are great bats when it comes to performance. If you occasionally hit one out with an NSA/USSSA bat, you won't have any trouble hitting them out with these bats. It's also been my experience that the Combat will last about three times as long as the Ultra.

As to the preponderance of Mikens in the dugouts, they have been around for about nine years, I believe. There are still many of the originals around. They were much more durable than the ones that have been produced in the last six years. I believe that this is only the third years for the Senior Combats and this is the first 6 months for the Reebok Melee.

While there is a preponderance of Mikens in the dugouts now, I don't think that will be the case three years from now. That is unless Miken goes back to producing a high performing durable bat like their earlier models.

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