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| Aug. 8, 2011 gary c 418 posts | WHAT'S THE NUMBERS This is to the staff. Can you give us a ball park figure on how many posters ID and don't ID? Thanks |
| Aug. 8, 2011 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Over 80 per cent of the POSTS made on the site in any thread are from posters who have identified themselves one way or another to us and our community. |
| Aug. 8, 2011 SSUSA Staff 3483 posts | There is NO requirement to provide any personally identifying information to be a member of this Message Board. The ONLY requirements are that the applicant have an active e-mail account at the time they verify their application, thus enabling their posting privileges, and that they adhere to the (only) four posting rules that govern acceptable content. Approximately 75% of the registered users do NOT formally ID on their personal page, which is perfectly acceptable. With almost 60,000 posts in the Message Board database, it is impossible to accurately determine how many active posters (or the percentage of same) may provide such information in the body of their posts. Any guestimate as to the percentage of ID'd posters in the active threads is irrelevant data. |
| Aug. 8, 2011 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | garyc,omar did a check on this and whiney is completely wrong again.omar's FACTS proved that most do not put their private info out there. guess he would loose another bet,if he would dare to............ like i have said along,he just a crap slinger hoping something will stick........ |
| Aug. 8, 2011 gary c 418 posts | Joe Next time you attack me you attack about 75% of the people on this site who also don't ID. |
| Aug. 8, 2011 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Check out any thread and you will find as I have that over 80 of the posts made by posters are from identified and/or identifiable men and women. |
| Aug. 8, 2011 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | that's "over 80 per cent" sorry |
| Aug. 8, 2011 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | hey its your fantasy guess you can dream it anyway you want..... please whiney get a clue....omar has already proven you wrong now your gonna go against SSUSA and say they are wrong....please child...... |
| Aug. 8, 2011 Pricer Men's 50 621 posts | Part of the problem is, when starting your account if you do not fill in all of the personal info, it will not allow you to fill it in later. I have check with SSUSA and they have indicated it can't be edited or corrected. |
| Aug. 8, 2011 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | mmm jeff i was able to edit mine a while back,i took my last name off for personal reasons,didn't want my name out there for scammers to come along to use for identity theft.it might be something new they have instituted. personally i do know what your name is by you putting it in a thread,but guess what,i wouldn't know you from adam,still....i don't care if anyone posts a name or not,that is not important to me,it is whats posted by the poster,not who their name is.so these people who say your nothing b/c of not putting info for people to see are some of the same people,NO INFO IN THEIR PROFILE. |
| Aug. 8, 2011 Pricer Men's 50 621 posts | I've been trying to edit my profile since day 4 after signing up. Emailed the problem, they indicated they could not help me and said once it was save, no way to change it. I thought it was kind of lame being they have an edit button to do so, but it does not work. |
| Aug. 8, 2011 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | jeff i just went and change my name from robert to bob,don't know what to tell ya.i hit the edit button and got a drop down,typed in my change and hit the button at the bottom of the page to save changes. |
| Aug. 8, 2011 Pricer Men's 50 621 posts | Mine just continues to search for the edit page drop down. It don't seem to find it. I left it on for better than an hour a few weeks back while searching. That's when I contacted them. |
| Aug. 8, 2011 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | DANG MINE,DOESN'T GO TO ANOTHER PAGE,JUST DROPS DOWN IMMEDIATELY.DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL YOU.DO YOU HAVE A POP-UP BLOCK ON YOUR COMPUTOR,THAT MIGHT BEING DOING IT.I'M NOT A COMP WHIZ SO CAN'T SUGGEST ANYTHING ELSE...OPPS SORRY ABOUT CAPS.. |
| Aug. 8, 2011 Omar Khayyam 1357 posts | Unbelievable that einstein would once again revisit this topic of anonymity after I destroyed his arguments two years ago with the facts. Back then, einstein was also claiming that 80% of posters were “known posters”. It was a ridiculously wrong statistic then, and is still wrong, even more so with the new information from SSUSA. Now SSUSA reports that 75% of registered users do NOT formally ID themselves. That is 75%, as in only 25% do identify themselves, not 80% as einstein claims without substantiation. Then einstein claims that maybe 75% are anonymous, but of those who post, 80% are known posters. Wrong again. Gary, you can do what I did back in 2009 when this issue came up (einstein was flaming at all the anonymous posters, including me, with extremely disparaging name calling). What I did was take the previous 100 posts and wrote down all of the nicknames. Then I looked up the posters individually and determined who was anonymous, and who identified themselves. The result? Only 42% identified themselves; 58% of the posters (not just readers) did not identify themselves. Even those who identified themselves were often anonymous in the sense that “real name J” could be one of dozens of such persons who play softball. It took a lot of time to do this, but I was irritated by einstein’s 80% claim. His only response was to say that “he knew them all”, which is hard to refute. Evidently, einstein is psychic and he can know a name when no one else has a clue. Hard to argue with that, but the other 99% of us still have no idea who billcoo or Ho or southernson is, and my point is: who cares? I am here to discuss softball and offer opinions and enjoy other perspectives (including einstein’s) so what does it matter who the poster is. In fact, knowing the poster is Rich Fischer, for example, (on here as RIK56) doesn’t help me because I still have no idea of whether that person is a longtime player, major plus player, AA player, etc., and I don’t really care. Of course SSUSA welcomes the anonymous posters on this Message Board—they are the vast majority! |
| Aug. 8, 2011 E4/E6 Men's 70 873 posts | Just edited my info, worked well for me too......... |
| Aug. 8, 2011 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Thanks, John. Wonder why it doesn't work for Pricer? Omar. I always said that well over 80 of all the posts were by known posters. That was ALWAYS my contention and argument and it was you in your intellectual haze that decided to run with it another way. Good try, though. You got Saddy to bite but that obviously isn't very hard to do. |
| Aug. 8, 2011 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | please read again...... as posted by staff,please note the first 2 words/number...... Approximately 75% of the registered users do NOT formally ID on their personal page, which is perfectly acceptable. With almost 60,000 posts in the Message Board database, it is impossible to accurately determine how many active posters (or the percentage of same) may provide such information in the body of their posts. Any guestimate as to the percentage of ID'd posters in the active threads is irrelevant data. |
| Aug. 8, 2011 Omar Khayyam 1357 posts | einstein now claims he knows 80 posters (not 80% of all who post), or maybe he just knows the names of three or four guys that make up 80 posts. That I believe; he has been around a long time and traveled a lot, so he probably does know 80 of the posters in a year's time, and even I know the real names of those who made 80 different posts. That still leaves 75% anonymous registered potential posters and 58% anonymous actual posters (at least anonymous to the 99% of us who don't have einstein's wide circulation). Just as an exercise, I picked three names from a recent thread: billcoo, Ho, and southernson. Maybe einstein could tell us something about each one: not their names, because they chose to remain anonymous, but their ability, level of team they play on, that kind of thing to demonstrate that he knows them all. |
| Aug. 8, 2011 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Checking this thread so far we have 18 posts and 15 are by identifiable or 84%. Check almost any post as I have many and you'll see that over 80 per cent of the posts are by known contributors. That was the point I made then and now and it's obviously still true that most of the posts made on this site are from known/identified members. Why do most regular contributors identify themselves? That the question and the answer is fundamental accountability and respect. |
| Aug. 8, 2011 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | who are the identifiable posters. by this,you are saying everyone who has posted knows all the others. i know and have met only 1 poster on this thread....... there are only 7 posters here staff = 1 post = no name einstein = 5 posts = info maddog = 6 now 7 posts = just first name/town omarKhayyam = 2 posts = no info E4/E6 = 1 post = info garyc = 2 posts = no info pricer = 3 posts = no info so by checking everyone out here is how it breaks down we have 6 posts total with people who have complete info,and that is by 2 people(5 posts which are by you).where do you get this stuff from. you sure your not a used car salesman,or snake oil peddler........ |
| Aug. 8, 2011 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Robert. You manipulative little devil. You're spending too much time with OK. We know who you are. We know who Dave and SSUSA is. E4 has told us who he is. Pricer has told us who he is. It's just Gary C and OK for 3 posts out of 20 with the last two. Now it's up to 85 per cent of the post are from known members. You'll little devil. |
| Aug. 8, 2011 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Check any thread and you'll see that over 80 of the posts on just about any thread are from known posters who have either given info or have defined themselves in some accountable way with email or phone numbers. By the way, OK. Ho identified himself a couple of times with his phone number. The laws of accountability in man to man interactions are deeply embedded in us from our culture. We are more credible, respected and respectful when we identify ourselves. There's just not 2 ways about it. Spongy. |
| Aug. 8, 2011 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | and who are they.i have met 1 and only 1 person in this thread,and i bet that the others can say the same thing.who has met each other here please tell us.how do we know that these people who have supplied supposed info are really them...please tell me. oh by the way last i knew was 2+2 = 4 not 3...... |
| Aug. 8, 2011 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Robert. Are you being obtuse or is that you just don't get that accountability is fundamental to respectful and respected human intercourse. |
| Aug. 8, 2011 gary c 418 posts | You must be hard up for friends Joey |
| Aug. 8, 2011 Omar Khayyam 1357 posts | Oh, now I get it. einstein knows those who frequently post. Let’s take the most frequent recent posters and see if EVERYONE can know them from information they reveal: Here are those with more than 150 posts total, who have posted in the last week: einstein (tops with 2931 posts), mad dog, BruceinGa, Dbax, Lecak, the wood, Webbie25, stick8, DoubleL10, E4/E6, Omar Khayyam, Gary 19, Jawood, Duke, southpaw, surf88, turn2, kbl, softball4b, gary c, Airbosn, Enviro-Vac, hitt2, Tater50, LP, curveball, hitman, LP, DMac, Capt Kirk, Pricer, JBTexas, and DCPete. Of those 32 posters, 16 (or 50%) have NOT identified their real name! I’m sure einstein will claim that he knows 27 of them (his 80%), but for those of us not so fortunate that have to rely on the official SSUSA site for identification, we know only 50%. And by know, we just know their real name, not necessarily know them in person or have any idea of their capabilities or expertise or knowledge of the game. I agree that I remember that a few of the 16 (Ho is not one) have identified themselves in some way over time, perhaps by listing their phone number or email address, but who (other than einstein it seems) keeps track of all those fleeting references? Doubt my statistics? Look them up yourself. It takes a couple of hours. Yeah, I know, I’m an anonymous nobody and I have nothing else to do. LOL Well, no more back and forth now, I'm off to the gym. |
| Aug. 8, 2011 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | omar of those you have listed,have have met personally,15 of them.could i actually pick them all out of a crowd,no that number drops down to 10-12 of them. |
| Aug. 9, 2011 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | hmmmmmm-60,000 posts-Einstein 2931, mad dog 2803 total 5734 posts-(over 9.5%) of all posts. Just saying............. :-) |
| Aug. 9, 2011 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | You are either being obtuse, OK or recalcitrant. I have always and only said that the number of posts not posters reveals that over 80 per cent of them are from identified and identifiable men who understand and chose to be accountable as men are want to do in and of the culture of western civilization which can be argued is rapidly becoming something of an oxymoron. OK, Sad Dog and the rest. You are sadly wrong about what I said and have been all along. You may say as SSUSA has said that what I observed is not the way they'd appreciate us to look at it but so what. That's just their opinion and take on it for whatever reasons they might have. Let me say it again LOUD and CLEAR. Well over 80 percent of all discussions on this site are from members who are known and identifiable. It might be the same guys 20 times as is often the case but the GREAT majority of posts, which is what I have ALWAYS said, is from identifiable members who chose and know the value of fundamental respect and accountability in responsible human relationships. |
| Aug. 9, 2011 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | webbie i have been posting on here since 03/04,can't quite remember when,so that is 7-8 years worth of posts.maybe staff could let me know. |
| Aug. 9, 2011 Omar Khayyam 1357 posts | einstein thinks I am recalcitrant and it is true that I am stubborn when the facts are on my side. Now einstein's latest argument is that he never said 80% of posters were known, just 80% of the posts were by known guys. If that's the case, then my argument above about the most FREQUENT posters, where only 50% choose to identify themselves, is still valid. What makes these men frequent posters? Because they dominate in posting comments. They are the ones that post "20 times" and they are half anonymous. But to add on more facts, let me review what einstein has actually said in the past: December 25, 2009 Here's another majority opinion, Robert. Over 80 per cent of the guys who post let us know who they really are. December 26, 2009 Most of the guys on this site, Robert, this one, 80 per cent or so all say who they are and that's what I was talking about. January 19, 2010 80 per cent of the guys who post here are known guys whether they post their info in the profile or not. January 28, 2010 Again, 80 per cent of the guys who post on this site are known members of the community which displaces your 50 something percentage of posters who didn't 'sign in. Does that sound like einstein is referring to posts? Since einstein is a former English teacher, I think he is perfectly capable of making himself clear, and in these samples, again and again, he says "posters", not posts. Probably time to drop this thread as it must be either exhilarating for some to see einstein proved wrong, or boring to the majority to see this topic continue. Thanks, SSUSA, for the reaffirmation of anonymity and noting that 75% of all posters and potential posters took advantage of this option. |
| Aug. 9, 2011 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | OK. My bend on English was toward the creative, poetic side over the grammar, syntax side. That being said I meant the same thing all the time and nothing I saw in your excerpts shows anything different. Get some rest. |
| Aug. 9, 2011 gary c 418 posts | This YOYO is an English teacher wonder why the California schools are in the crapper |
| Aug. 10, 2011 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | Einstein, maddog-GOTCHA!!! Was just kidding! See smiley face at the end of that blog. Darn this 'tongue-in-cheekitis'! |
| Aug. 10, 2011 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | You guys are great-just like watching the Democrats and the Republicans! They absolutely HAVE to disagree. I bet if the House came out with a resolution that the sky is blue-the Senate would vote it down and introduce a resolution that the sky is green. Then CBS would take a poll and decide that 42% of voters agreed with the Republicans and 45% agreed with the Democrats and 13% were undecided. I'm actually trying to figure out why it is so important to know the exact percent of posters that ID themselves. By the way, I have only met one guy on this thread-mad dog. We may not agree, but I found him to be a nice guy. I still owe you a beer, Robert. |
| Aug. 10, 2011 Capt Kirk 541 posts | Lots of math/percentages being tossed around, gives some of us seior softball players a headache. You did hear about the constipated mathematician, he worked it out with a pencil. |
| Aug. 10, 2011 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Thanks, Gary for all the contrast. Every king must have a fool and you were made for the job. Gary C. That would be Gary the Clown. Keep up the good work. |
| Aug. 10, 2011 gary c 418 posts | The reason for all the percentages on the thread is because THE VILLAGE IDIOT Winestink thinks that unless you ID your views mean nothing. 75% don't ID and the IDIOT says different. The staff has proven him wrong again and she is upset. Hey Stinkestein the only king you are is KING OF THE CRAPPER |
| Aug. 10, 2011 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | CaptKirk-was it a #2 pencil???? apologies----- |
| Aug. 10, 2011 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Thanks again, Gary. |
| Aug. 10, 2011 gary c 418 posts | Your welcome oh King Of The Crapper |
| Aug. 10, 2011 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | i understood webbie,just was letting you know how long it has taken for me to get all those posts,not mad at ya...:):) see i can type them too ..LOL..... |
| Aug. 10, 2011 Capt Kirk 541 posts | What I like about this thread is: we all can be friends as long we all agree that you can crap on someone and then tell them how good they look in brown, works for me. |
| Aug. 11, 2011 XLong 2 posts | "Nothing so needs reforming as other peoples habit" Mark Twain |
| Aug. 11, 2011 Don5 Men's 75 69 posts | As usual, I start reading this mumbo that doesn't actually mean anything and I find myself fallingg aslee...........p, night,night |
| Aug. 11, 2011 E4/E6 Men's 70 873 posts | Mark Twain was a Ghost name, an unknown except to Samuel Clemens = ) |
| Aug. 11, 2011 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Favorite Twain quote, "Rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated." |
| Aug. 11, 2011 gary c 418 posts | No they haven't |
| Aug. 11, 2011 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | East is east-west is west and never the Twains shall meet. You can substitute Einstein and garyc for Twains. Groan...... |
| Aug. 11, 2011 gary c 418 posts | Very good Webbie |
