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Discussion: Mesquite Mistake?

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March 26, 2012
2 posts
Mesquite Mistake?
Just back from watching the Spring World's in Mesquite. I do not understand why the tournament schedule had younger Major Plus and Major teams playing on baseball fields that had fences at 330+ feet or more down the lines, and 380+ or more to dead center for some games; and then playing on fields with fences as short as 276 feet (Field 2 at Pioneer Park) for other games. Major Plus and Major teams should never play on fields with fences any shorter than 300 feet. Temporary fences at around 325 feet or so on the baseball fields make more competitive sense. A team of slap hitters can hang with the big boys when the winds pick up in the right direction on the fields of less than 300 feet. Championship and "if" games should be played at parks with 325 to 300 foot fences on Sundays for Major Plus and Major teams. IMHO
March 26, 2012
Men's 55
10 posts
Field 2 was 276 down the line, quickly went out to 305 rest of the way around. Did not see an extraordinary amount of runs scored. 31 runs were the most scored in 55 major plus and that was on the big field. With 9 runs allowed per inning in major plus that is not a lot!
On to my main topic, the umpires, we had 2 of the best umpires I have ever had the pleasure to share the field with. They need to be recognized more often! They were Jeff Stewart & Shawn (not sure of last name), but they were both OUTSTANDING!!!
March 26, 2012
Men's 50
894 posts
Still another example of a 50 Major-plus team (Demolition in this case) that doesn't always win tournaments against Major competition. Major and Major-plus CAN BE COMBINED!
March 26, 2012
Men's 60
279 posts
Swanny 22 - nice post on the umpires. We had both Shawn and Jeff, and they were excellent. Two others worth commending were Rick and Gil in our championship game.

Jawood - you know I agree with your point.
March 27, 2012
Men's 65
12 posts
March 27, 2012
Men's 50
79 posts
I agree Jawood Major and Major-Plus need to be combined!!!
should be combined!!!
Put it to a vote and it would be combined!!!
March 27, 2012
2 posts
Watched games the last two years at Pioneer Park on the baseball field and there were no temporary fences. In prior years temporary fences have reportedly been used on the baseball fields.

To clarify my earlier point regarding field size and competitive equity, the larger fields should be the venue for the championship and "if" games. While I was watching the Majors compete on Sunday on the smaller Field 2, AAA teams were competing on the larger Field 1 (300 to 315 foot dimensions).

As a certified umpire, I agree with the earlier posts regarding the quality of the umpires I viewed in Mesquite at both Hunter & Pioneer Parks. They were professional yet personable. Kudos to SSUSA
March 29, 2012
Bomber #7
Men's 60
62 posts
Mesquite is just has poor facilities for senior softball. I think thet (SSUSA) were betting on the come, that the huge new complex was going to be built. It never happened and players are now stuck with horrible dimension fields.

Candy is correct, the older guys really get hosed playing with such large outfields, way too far to chase gppers.

Tate22 and Jarwood: although I may agree with you on combining the upper two in younger age groups, I don't think that works in the older guys. Take 65 for example, there are NO Major teams that can even compete with Omen. Hell, the teams in + can't even do it! They won in Mesquite over the 2nd place team, about 45 to around 18 in 2 games. That 2nd place team is typical of the top of the Major Division, most other Major teams are weaker. Combining those 2 at 65 I don't think would work.
March 29, 2012
Men's 65
885 posts
Bomber#7, I would say the same for the 60s - Turn 2 is so good they wind up playing 55 Major Plus a lot of the time. It is RARE when they do not win any 60 M+ event when there are truly 60 M+ teams they play! AND they do not do it beating folks to death with the long ball. They are just a great team with a LOT of excellent hitters.

I suspect some would say the same for the Mavericks in 50 M+ before they broke up.
March 29, 2012
Men's 70
740 posts
Larry, I would have to agree with you and Turn Two will be that much better with Cameron pitching and Tudor at second. There are 4 60 Major teams in MB this weekend 3 Major Plus and Jersey Metro. I will be curious to see how Metro fairs playing these guys even up. Thanks Harry
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