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Sept. 18, 2012 Corky Men's 55 451 posts | Combat Twilight Anyone know anything about this bat?? |
Sept. 18, 2012 miken44 90 posts | know some guys who are hitting it now they are saying ball is jumping and so far durability does not seem to be a factor |
Sept. 18, 2012 0 70 posts | Other than the name and paint job, what makes it different from the Ambush or Centenarian? |
Sept. 18, 2012 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | Ans or in part: who's selling them (Anaconda) and 4 bucks more. |
Sept. 18, 2012 ju25 Men's 60 234 posts | 2 piece bat, not as much hande flex as most Demarinis. |
Sept. 18, 2012 Smokey20 Men's 55 102 posts | We swing the new Demarini. Handle is stiff, swings like the 2 piece Worth Mutants. |
Sept. 18, 2012 swing for the fences Men's 50 1224 posts | Come on Brian, it's a "Stiff pickle" AKA Demarini |
Sept. 19, 2012 5ToolsinOhio Men's 50 160 posts | You big guys are going to like the 30oz endload. |
Sept. 19, 2012 Gorilla Boy Men's 50 271 posts | Hey Guys, I have been on the road and just got back to beautiful Brunswick, Ohio. Ha!Ha! The one thing that makes it different from the Ambush and the Centenarian is the 2 piece. It definitely has a stiff handle and swings like a 1 piece bat. The flex comes into play when you hit the bat at the end of the barrel. Hey but this is just my opinion. Hope this helps a little. Gorilla Boy |
Sept. 19, 2012 swing for the fences Men's 50 1224 posts | So Mike, what shell are they using for the Twilight is it the same as the Amush/Centenarian? |
Sept. 19, 2012 HJ Men's 70 481 posts | Is this Combat's first 2-piece? The first generation of the DeMarini The One Senior is reputed to have durability problems. Just a heads up with no info. |
Sept. 19, 2012 Gorilla Boy Men's 50 271 posts | Let me see if I can answer your questions. The frame that is used to make the latest group of Combat Senor Softball bats use the same material in the barrels. Combat feels it is the best combination of carbon to date. The frames are different according to their lengths. The Centenarian, The Ambush and the Twilight. In the Twilight we added a stiff handle to go along with a soft shell. Three things have been done after extensive testing. 1. The handle used was made more stiffer so the bat did not swing like a garden hose. 2. By adjusting the formation (different angles) of the fibers on the outer wall we have what we believe to be the best pattern for a high performance softball bat. Best trampoline effect.. 3. The inner wall that is used in the Twilight is of Multi-Wall technology (3 Walls). .....With the stiffer handle that is used it allows for the flex to begin at the end of the bat. Where you might hit the ball on the end of the bat and because of the springboard effect you can still good distances out of the bat. .....When the ball is hit in the middle of the sweet spot it still plays like a 1 piece bat. I hope this helps. if you have any question about the Twilight please give me a call at 330-419-0205 and I will try and help you out. Thank You Gorilla Boy (Mighty Mike Macenko) |
Sept. 19, 2012 Gorilla Boy Men's 50 271 posts | It is good to be back home. Visited with Craig Elliott in Wadley Alabama. It doesn't get any better than what he has got. Looking forward to going to Vegas for the SSUSA. Once again thank you.. Gorilla Boy |
Sept. 19, 2012 swing for the fences Men's 50 1224 posts | Thanks for the explanation.. |
Sept. 19, 2012 Bighurt3535 25 posts | Thanks mike can't wait to swing the twilight this weekend |
Sept. 20, 2012 Gorilla Boy Men's 50 271 posts | My pleasure on the explanation.. Alan as far as the Cranker goes, it is still hard to believe but he lost his son John in 2002 I think. I don't want to go into details but he passed away in 2002. The Cranker is doing just fine. He works his tail off with a trucking company he owns. Lives in his hometown of Wadley and has a beautiful wife along with a beautiful home. Yes John was a very gifted athlete. It was a tough time needless to say. You have yourself a great day... Gorilla Boy |
Sept. 20, 2012 Goater 65 posts | so what's to do if one is ready to buy another Combat? Buy a Twilight, an Ambush or a 2nd MM blue? |
Sept. 21, 2012 ? 121 posts | A Stiffer Handle? I was under the impression that handle flex is desirable? Isn't flex the reason for standing on the handle? Can anybody explain? Thank you! |
Sept. 21, 2012 Gary19 Men's 50 2609 posts | Guys feel the need to stand on the handles of the special bats with sweet spots the size of Montana? |
Sept. 21, 2012 Gorilla Boy Men's 50 271 posts | The handle and taper are tuned for the amount of flex in the barrel. The flex allows the barrel to store energy for a split second, then the barrel flex and handle flex work together to release the stored energy at the same time. If you hit the ball at the end of the barrel you really feel it all working together. But if you are a smaller hitter and you barrel it up, it feels awesome and sounds great. I think the lighter hitters are going to love this bat. I don't stand on bats to see if the flex is there. I can tell when swinging. I hope this helps. You don't want the bat to flex until you have made contact. With a really flexable handle the bat will start flexing before you make contact. I am sure some players might like it like that. Everybody's swing is different? As you have said before no two stances and swings are the same. Gorilla Boy Mighty Mike Macenko |
Sept. 21, 2012 boston Men's 60 355 posts | Just got me a Worth Resmondo LE for senior ball. It's a USSSA bat that will last. I can also use it in the winter w/o fear of it breaking. Guys w/ the technology in bats today.; there is no need to waste money on a senior bat w/ no warranty. I also have the Worth Duo 2 and trying to get the new Easton Stealth 100. These bats hit the crap out of the ball. Also try the Rush 120 and OG Freak. I just don't get the hype over senior bats that hit a ball 400 ft when all you need is 305 to maybe 325 for a HR depending on the field. That's like some of the young guys I play against that are 220+ lbs and use shaved bats. Most good hitters should be able to hit with anything. |
Sept. 21, 2012 Gary19 Men's 50 2609 posts | boston, you just keep on keeping on. Unfortunately, there seem to be too many insecure guys who must tie their self-esteem to the extra, unnecessary distance the special bats give them. Kind of sad for guys our ages. |
Sept. 22, 2012 HJ Men's 70 481 posts | Mike, when you refer to end of barrel are you saying sweet spot or are you saying a miss hit near the end of the bat will do better than other stiffer senior bats?? What does "barrel it up" mean? And by smaller hitter do you mean slower batspeed or doing you mean a shorter hitter who has less arc (shorter arms) in his swing? As a shorter player I am trying to understand what you are saying. Please excuse my ignorance. I note other Combats (I have a MM) seem to take longer to break in and it seemed to me less powerful swingers may never have broken it in. How is this new model respecting break in? If this bat is designed for the weaker rec player, then hopefully it breaks in easily. Thank for all your help. |
Sept. 25, 2012 HJ Men's 70 481 posts | Mike, please see prior questions. Thanks. |
Sept. 27, 2012 Gorilla Boy Men's 50 271 posts | HJ, sorry for the delay in answering your question. End of barrel - not the sweet spot but at the end of the bat where when you usually hit the end of the bat the ball doesn't go to far. The way the handle and barrel work together at that precise moment gives you a little bit more distance because of the flex. Barrell it up - when you hit it on the sweet spot. the barrels are 11.5 inches long, so you have quite a big sweet spot. Smaller hitter - the way the bat is designed the players with a slower bat speed might benefit more from this bat. It could be a big guy with a slower bat speed. So no I don't mean short players. Bottom line is hitting should be kept quite simple. See the ball and hit the ball. The last thing you want to do at the plate is to think too much. It will get you in trouble. I now first hand because that is what would happen to me more times than I would like to remember. If you want you can give me a call to discuss anythng further. Gorilla Boy Mike Macenko 330-419-0205. |
Sept. 28, 2012 5ToolsinOhio Men's 50 160 posts | HJ, Will be hitting next week weather permitting, come give the twilight a try if schedules can match. |
Sept. 28, 2012 crusher Men's 75 524 posts | End Of Barrel - I think that is the nature of a Combat. I have hit my Centenarian near the end of the bat thinking it will only go 225 or so and it short hops the fence. The Combat Company seems to have built a very unique bat. Guess the Ambush uses the Centenarian barrel also based on what I read on here. C |
Sept. 28, 2012 HJ Men's 70 481 posts | Thanks 5 Tools, but on the road till about 10/20. |