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Calling Time out» grayhitter59: Here it goes. A ball is throw to home plate, catcher miss plays ...»stick8: According to your scenario there was a play at third so for the ... »grayhitter59: Ok, granted might have been early, but she still called out ... »stick8: Rightly or wrongly if the ump calls time the play is dead. »grayhitter59: Staff is there a specific rule for this or is it umpire ... »B.J.: Time should never be given just because a player yells out time… .. ... »Nancy Allen: Wow, there is a lot wrong here. I know that there are some players ... »NYGNYY: I want to get this straight based upon Nancy’s example of the runner ... »B.J.: NYGNYY.. when you call out and request time the HP umpire should scan ... »Nancy Allen: NYGNYY, I agree with B.J. You might not like this answer, but it is ... »B.J.: Nancy, I would have done the same thing.. I NEVER wait for the ball ... »NYGNYY: Yes it is a judgment call. Point of me calling timeout is to stop ... »Nancy Allen: B.J., thanks for the affirmation. It was in a men's game with good ... »grayhitter59: Nancy and B.J. Thank You for the input.I also umpire. As you ... »B.J.: In the rule book …. 9.1 DEADBALL…. L »B.J.: There have been two times over the many years of umpiring that I have ... »stick8: I had a play in a conference usssa tourney about 6 years ago. ... |
16 | July 29, 2021 | 401 |
How to call a tag play when view is obstructed» franjan: Runner trying to stretch a single into a double. The ball beats him ...»DaveDowell: I'm a firm believer in the "You can't call what you didn't see" ... »B.J.: franjan.. if you don't see the play you can't make an out call.. ... »stick8: Franjan, the situation you describe is your call and even though your ... »rmp0012002: I think you make the call as you feel it happened. Don’t waver from ... »B.J.: stick.. every umpire clinic I’ve ever been to they would always ... »Mikelmart: Franjan if you were a witness for the prosecution in a criminal trial ... »stick8: BJ, you’re correct. We say the same things in the clinics I’ve been ... »Nancy Allen: I agree with all of this. Stick8, you are right on about some people ... »stick8: Nancy you’re correct, you certainly don’t hear those ever mentioned ... »franjan: Looks like more that one opinion on how to handle this situation. I ... »DaveDowell: This just a single honest opinion (mine), but you are destined to ... »franjan: Dave, I don't understand the attitude. All I am saying is that if I ... »DaveDowell: It's not an "attitude" at all, franjan ... It's more accurately ... »B.J.: franjan.. my reasoning of you being out of position is from your OP ... »stick8: BJ consider this play I had last weekend at a men’s tournament. ... »B.J.: stick.. I'm not sure where the runner that scored was from from 1st ... »stick8: BJ, I should have stated there was a runner on third, not first, my ... »B.J.: stick, since runner was on 3rd I hope your partner moved out from ... »Nancy Allen: Franjan, I was not suggesting that clues would override the call. I ... »stick8: BJ, he did come out. Whether he looked back to see if the runner that ... »stick8: Nancy what both you and BJ correctly point out dovetails into another ... »Nancy Allen: Stick8, amen. »franjan: Been away, so late too respond. According to B.J's description, I ... »B.J.: franjan.. you never said what the level of your play is.. but that is ... »DaveDowell: B.J. ... He's apparently a neighbor of yours in FL and was last ... »franjan: Quite right Dave, Haven't played tournament ball in too many years. ... |
26 | July 29, 2021 | 714 |
YOUNGEST AGE OF PLAYERS IN 75s AGE GROUP AND OR 80s» MR. ED: WE ARE NOW IN THE 75s AGE GROUP AND I HAVE THREE PLAYERS 79 YRS.OF ...»DaveDowell: MR. ED ... Here are the relevant Rulebook provisions (on pages 66-67) ... »Corn: Dave. When you get a chance can you display the relevant rule for age ... »DaveDowell: There is not a relevant rule like these for age 65+ division teams ... »Corn: Thanks Dave. I’m suppose to move up to a 65 team in November. The ... |
4 | July 19, 2021 | 250 |
Equalizers» dug8: How many defenders, runs given and homeruns are used when a 55 Major ...»DaveDowell: Presuming that the AAA team is 55+ (which we would NEVER voluntarily ... »dug8: Thanks Dave! |
2 | July 17, 2021 | 142 |
commitment line» LMR: Runner from second rounds third on hit and crosses commitment line. ...»DaveDowell: If the call is made correctly, he is OUT upon re-crossing the ... »stick8: LMR, that runner is out rightvwhen he recrosses the commit line going ... |
2 | July 17, 2021 | 189 |
60 AAA players playing 60 AA» Mr Gus: Can someone tell me how many AAA players are allowed on a AA team??»DaveDowell: Generally, you're allowed a maximum of three (3) players with AAA ... |
1 | July 11, 2021 | 103 |
CR runner» shortstop33: Runner on first gets CR, CR scores, the person who got the CR then ...»wdodge22: It is my understanding of the SSUSA Rules, that if you take a runner, ... »wdodge22: Rule book paragraph 8.5(2) »JimmyG: 8.5(2) • USING A RUNNER ON BASE A runner who is replaced with a ... »B.J.: Yes, he would be considered an illegal courtesy runner and should be ... »DaveDowell: As a practical matter, half of your roster can run for the other half ... »shortstop33: If you come in as a courtesy, in the same inning you come up after ... »B.J.: SS33…. yes you can »shortstop33: Thanks BJ |
8 | July 10, 2021 | 202 |
just wondering the rule» Dugout: at the beginning of the game teams exchanges balls when deciding who ...»DaveDowell: Dugout ... There isn't really a rule on this, and therefore no remedy ... »grayhitter59: Dugout, just a bit of advise. Most teams coaches keep a ball with ... »17Black: Different Association, similar story. I have always "exchanged" game ... »DaveDowell: 17Black ... Your experience brought back an hysterical memory for me ... »Alamo: We were playing against Cary team in Houston a few years ago when ... »DaveDowell: Alamo ... That's 100% believable and 0% surprising! ... Hilarious! ... |
6 | July 2, 2021 | 437 |
Roster Move» Jay Cas: How many times can a player be released from one roster to join ...»SSUSA Staff: ONE ... That being said, there was some relaxation of those rules ... »grayhitter59: Staff better question; Is that one release per age and ... »DaveDowell: Manny ... It's age-based only ... A player may not be on more than ... »Jay Cas: Thanks SSUSA Staff and Dave |
4 | July 2, 2021 | 361 |
What's the correct rule and call» Dirtball: Batter in the box, ball is pitched, batter hears "NO" from behind him ...»B.J.: DB.. this could be considered a form of verbal interference but I ... »Turning2: BJ is correct per definitions 1.45 and 1.48 both interference and ... »Nancy Allen: B.J., I agree. Of course with me it is a little different. In a ... »B.J.: Nancy, just a couple months ago I had a similar event happen at a ... »Nancy Allen: B.J., at least you don't sound like a girl. Let me guess; he took a ... |
5 | July 1, 2021 | 374 |
Unsportsmanlike conduct call for showboating?» jgoff5113: At the TOC this past January, our infield completed a nice double ...»DaveDowell: The umpire, unfortunately, made up an imaginary rule on the fly and ... »jgoff5113: Thanks Dave, and no worries: Our team did not argue with the ump, and ... |
2 | June 29, 2021 | 401 |
rulling» titanhd: Last batter on second to begin an Extra inning. The three critical ...»DaveDowell: titanhd ... Your "hypothetical" for injury or illness is covered in ... »B.J.: titanhd.. to further answer your questions.. he could be called out ... »titanhd: Thank you both! »Turning2: B.J. One correction to your illegal CR explanation. The courtesy ... »B.J.: T2.. you are correct I mistakenly omitted the before the next ... »Turning2: BJ - no problem, I’ll use references from both associations as I ... »stick8: Titanhd, recall the Bobby Chapp. Sammy made the last out for D & D in ... »titanhd: Stick I know. I argued that at the time as I did at the Smokey when ... »stick8: Titanhd I’m glad you argued that at the time. I hate it when people ... |
9 | June 25, 2021 | 559 |
Need clarification on rule batter box lines» Finally50: Need clarification on something that happened to me in the ...»DaveDowell: Looks like a question for the U.I.C. at the Smokie's (good thing it ... »B.J.: F50.. since you state you always position yourself at the front of ... »neck10: you must not be from Vegas. »Nancy Allen: Finally50, are you sure that you were called out for being out of the ... »STL0: We played at the Smokies at Know County Sportsplex and there were no ... »Nancy Allen: STL0, you can be if you step on the plate/mat or all of the way in ... »Hank Heffner: If there is no foul lines are all balls fair or foul. Just curious. ... |
7 | June 22, 2021 | 622 |
Caught foul ball.» Harri: Situation: Runners on 1st and 3rd, less than 2 outs. Shortstop ...»Turning2: 8.4(10) • WHEN RUNNERS ARE ENTITLED TO ADVANCE Runners are entitled ... »stick8: Ruling on the play is the batter is out, then a dead ball when the ... |
2 | June 20, 2021 | 401 |
Carrying bat to first base» Rumplestilskin: In our game today a runner was called out for carrying the bat past ...»DaveDowell: Your League President has misstated the SSUSA's position on this, by ... »Turning2: DD - often you suggest that posters on this website make suggestions ... »DaveDowell: T2 ... I don't recall ever suggesting that posters make rules ... »Turning2: Pardon - I did only mean to have applicable to SSUSA only. I don’t ... »DaveDowell: To illustrate the absurdity of that probability, how many times, by ... »Nancy Allen: SSUSA uses the same rule as USA Softball (formerly ASA) which is the ... »Turning2: No problem from my end. I see you have a position and it’s well ... »Wood_1966: Unless the hitter is going to use the bat as a weapon against the 1st ... »Bob21: If I get a hit to drive in the 5th run of an inning, I usually carry ... »bullet: Funny that someone brought this up. Few years back i did carry my ba ... »Turning2: NA or DD - where would one find form or other item to use for a ... »Nancy Allen: Dave may have more to add on the process, but you can either use ... »DaveDowell: That's about "it" Nancy ... But there IS a third option, which you ... »Turning2: DD - specifically why I asked for the proper procedure to have a rule ... »DaveDowell: T2 ... There was absolutely nothing sarcastic about my reply to Nancy ... |
15 | June 13, 2021 | 1061 |
Ruling» stick8: Senior ball. Stick makes the last out in the top of the 7th inning. ...»Dbax: I’ve been waiting for this scenario. Especially in the Major Leagues. ... »B.J.: stick.. even though your mgr. was VERY smart in FINALLY putting me in ... »Turning2: rule is in place for the "last batter position" in the lineup, not a ... »JimmyG: So if they anticipated a potential tie and substituted BJ for Stick ... »B.J.: T2.. I disagree with you.. the wording of the rule does not mention ... »B.J.: also meant to add the EFFECT: the substitution of the MUCH FASTER BJ ... »Turning2: BJ - No, once the substitution is made, he is officially in the ... »B.J.: T2... normally I would agree with you on substitutions but not with ... »Guppy7325: You missed the part about inserted into the line up in the bottom of ... »Turning2: BJ - Did you get your buddy, DD, to clarify this one for you? »B.J.: T2.. yes DD was swamped last weekend at a tour. but he did send me ... »Dbax: What if that player is injured? Also does anyone know the MLB rule? »Turning2: BJ - I don't agree with the answer that DD gave you, there is no ... »B.J.: 5.4(2) • INTERNATIONAL TIE-BREAKER RULE Teams start each half-inning ... »DaveDowell: T2 ... I'm not sure what language you might be reading, but the ... »Turning2: DD - I certainly didn't write the rule (5.4(2) • INTERNATIONAL ... »DaveDowell: T2 ... While I appreciate the prolific nature of your argument, it ... »Turning2: DD - until such time as you, or anyone else can show me that a ... »DaveDowell: You seem to be a "..gotta have the last word.." kind of guy, so we'll ... »Turning2: DD - I’m not quite as much of a “gotta have the last word” kind of ... |
20 | June 13, 2021 | 810 |
Pitching motion» miken60: At a recent tournament the pitcher presented the ball above the waist ...»DaveDowell: Not having seen it, nothing in your description jumps out at me as an ... »Omar Khayyam: 15 years ago I am pitching in a tournament with NCSSA rules (same, ... |
2 | June 9, 2021 | 375 |
batter interference» Grinder17: batter has a full count 3-2. Next pitch is inside and the batter ...»Full Count: I've seen many batters catch inside balls and the umpire called them ... »Grinder17: So you’re saying it’s a ball? How do you call it a ball when it never ... »B.J.: G17.. you wont find a specific rule about the batter catching a ... »TAT22: Grinder17: When a batter is in the batter box and a ball is pitched ... »Turning2: I agree with B.J. that you probably will not find a written rule ... »Turning2: Trailing shoulder and lead knee, at 70 hrs old I get ahead of myself ... »B.J.: T2.. a lot less complicated in SSUSA it either had a chance to hit ... »Turning2: B.J. Yes Sir, strike mat takes all the guesswork out of the ... »AJC: True B J, in senior ball with a mat , I dont remember ever seeing a ... »txnighttrain: It is an umpire judgment call. If in the umpire believes it would ... »k man: AJC, we had that exact thing happen to us. The opposing catcher ... |
11 | June 6, 2021 | 649 |
Is batter out» 1jonsey: I'm confused on the end of your definition of a catch 1.10, ...»Full Count: I'm no umpire but I have an out. Fielder shows control with hand ... »Turning2: 1jonsey - you are good in your answer, batter is out, SSUSA ... »B.J.: T2... I agree that the batter should be out... "BUT" I don't agree ... »Turning2: BJ - first sentence in both definitions : 1.10 catches a batted or ... »B.J.: T2.. 1j's scenario said the fielder slid and caught the ball with ... »DaveDowell: B.J. ... Does the phrase "Twin Sons of Different Mothers" strike a ... »B.J.: lol.. yes, but only if there name is Darryl »Turning2: BJ. The ball never touched the ground. Ball can bounce off one ... »B.J.: T2.. yes you are 100% correct in your last post the batter should be ... »DCPete: Ughh; so a Runner in this scenario would still be able to Tag Up & ... »Turning2: DCPete - upon first "touching", always »txnighttrain: The whole purpose of this rule is two fold. One to define control for ... |
12 | June 1, 2021 | 488 |
Tag out of the runner» Turbobob: Runner is on first base. Ball is hit to second baseman who fields ...»Turning2: Runner is not out by definition of a legal touch. SSUSA 1.46 legal ... |
1 | May 28, 2021 | 271 |
