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Runner's right to the base

» Wayne 37: This happened a few weeks ago. There was a runner on 3B. The ...
      »B.J.: Wayne, the runner on the bag does not have to move to get out of the ...
      »DCPete: Your "contention" is entirely incorrect; try looking up the word ...
      »Wayne 37: DC Pete Apparently you don't have any judgment capabilities. ...
      »B.J.: Wayne, in your original scenario you say that the runner was ...
      »DCPete: Ok Wayne how about SSUSA Rule 8.2 C.1 - "If the Runner is hit with a ...
      »Wayne 37: DCPete, I assume you mean 8.2(1)C which reads: If the ...
      »DCPete: Wayne, have no idea what you're talking about; here's the phrase from ...
      »Wayne 37: ...........and HENCE the keys words C. WHEN HE (BATTER) HITS A FAIR ...
      »Wayne 37: DEFINITIONS: 1.45 INTERFERENCE. Interference is the act of an ...
9 April 23, 2018 361

Runner on first base

» baseballbill: Runner is on first base and a ground ball is hit at the first base ...
      »crusher: Runner hurt and falls down while still touching 1st. The first ...
      »B.J.: bill.. again any play like this is umpire judgement.. did the runner ...
      »baseballbill: Thanks B.J.
3 April 22, 2018 152

Dead ball ground rule double situation.

» baseballbill: Umpire ruled dead ball ground rule double. Batter stopped at first ...
      »SSUSA Staff: This case should probably let common sense (which isn't all that ...
      »baseballbill: Thanks, That exactly what the umpire ruled.
      »DaveDowell: baseballbill ... There's a bit of a (meritorious) dissenting opinion ...
      »marcster13: Always amazes me that guys will take any shortcut they can. Aren't we ...
      »smitty63: wow, Just when I thought i was starting to figure out what a runner ...
      »B.J.: Dave's 2nd answer is the one I would go with.. A batter that has been ...
      »stick8: Baseball bill was this in a house league or a sanctioned ssusa ...
      »B.J.: stick8 on your situation a few years ago.. Just so you know for in ...
      »txnighttrain: First line of Rule 8.4(1) "Each batter must reach first base without ...
      »stick8: BJ, as always you are correct on that. I was playing middle in a 5 ...
      »BillC48: Similar situation - Batter hits the ball over the fence for a home ...
      »B.J.: SSUSA has hit and sit with no requirement to touch 1st base.. there ...
      »DaveDowell: B.J. ... While I agree with you conceptually, the "hit-and-sit" ...
      »fennellwg: My condolences Dave D. This is probably the third time in as many ...
      »DaveDowell: Thanks Bill ... It's that time of the year when there's not enough ...
      »baseballbill: Dave: You said it earlier in the message: COMMON SENSE should prevail ...
      »stick8: BillC48, if this scenario was in an ssusa tournament no penalty. ...
      »Wayne 37: Dave Dowell A homerun is the only four base award. How are you ...
      »Wayne 37: Sorry, left this out. In this situation, I maintain the batter ...
      »B.J.: Wayne.. 8.4(7) FOUR-BASE AWARD Any fair ball touched by a player ...
      »Wayne 37: B.J. ~ A 440 ft. moonshot over the fence is also a four base award as ...
      »B.J.: Wayne, you asked if there was another 4 base award that you didn't ...
22 April 21, 2018 951

double bag at 1st

» k man: Just curious about rule interpretation for rule 2.3C4 Once a ...
      »B.J.: K.. once the runner has "attained" 1st base the double base is ...
      »SSUSA Staff: B.J. has it ... The double-bag rule applies only to a batter-runner ...
      »k man: Thanks BJ and Staff, I've just assumed the managing role so I am ...
3 April 21, 2018 124

Foul Tip vs Foul Ball

» txnighttrain: Rule 1.29 Foul Tip: A foul tip is a batted ball that goes directly ...
      »Krinkles: I umpired USSSA games and the caught foul ball rule was that any ...
      »B.J.: TX... read the rule again the end of the last sentence before the ...
      »txnighttrain: The effect actually says "the ball is dead on all foul tips and the ...
      »B.J.: TX.. yes you are correct it does.. and the same result for a foul ...
      »SSUSA Staff: A foul tip is NOT a foul ball, by definition (see below) and, ...
      »STL0: A batter doesn't deserve another swing if you hit a "foul tip". That ...
      »B.J.: Dave.. Then I'm not reading this rule correctly... Any batted ball ...
      »SSUSA Staff: B.J. ... Don't over read Definition 1.29 ... The FIRST sentence ...
      »Wayne 37: Really no reason to have a foul tip rule in softball. All that's ...
9 April 21, 2018 661

Games between different rankings

» BubbleHead96: I understand the equalizer rule, however how do the runs work with M+ ...
      »BruceAZ: BH, the way it went for us in the Spring Worlds when we, a M team ...
      »TimMcElroy: Whenever there is an equalizer rule in effect, the teams play to the ...
2 March 30, 2018 291

safety bag

» grayhitter59: Staff I have a questions due to rule changes. When a ball never ...
      »SSUSA Staff: grayhitter59 ... In response to your statement and questions ...
      »grayhitter59: thank you
      »DieselDan: 5) Can the pitcher kick the ball over to the 1st baseman? Not ...
      »DaveDowell: Yep ... "Kick saves" are permitted (or at least not prohibited!) ...
4 March 26, 2018 460

legal players

» bucs15: Over the last couple years I've seen more and more players playing on ...
      »SSUSA Staff: bucs15 ... Over the past couple of years, there have been some ...
      »birdie: bucs15, Just out of curiosity, have you notice this in all 3 ...
2 March 25, 2018 668

Ground rule double/courtesy runner

» Randall: We had a situation where the batter/runner hit a ball off the fence ...
      »stick8: Randall, was this in a sanctioned SSUSA tournament or a house league? ...
      »Linknblue: You have to touch the bases. If the defense "appealed properly" then ...
      »B.J.: Linknblue.. actually the appeal can be made by any defensive player
3 March 25, 2018 310

pitcher getting hit

» maskedman: i just watched a senior game on youtube this morning from 2016 ...
      »maskedman: my mistake. wrong game. it was last year SA CRUSH vs TX VETS. same ...
      »DaveDowell: maskedman ... Take a look at Rule Book 6.18 INTENTIONALLY HITTING ...
      »B94: I don't think anyone hits up the middle intentionally at the pitcher, ...
      »Fred S: B94: Unfortunately there are some. We had two in our league at one ...
      »stick8: This rule is akin to pitchers in Major League Baseball. If a pitcher ...
      »softball4b: Bat control fades as with your physical abilities with age. There ...
      »SOFTBALLNUTZ: softball4b I agree with you 100% A few years ago several ...
      »DaveDowell: Mike and NUTZ ... Reminder of the four modern stages of bat control ...
      »softball4b: There is bat control and then there is controlling everything ...
      »The Screamer5: Maskedman, I was there at the game you referenced. It was a one day ...
      »SOFTBALLNUTZ: I welcome you to come to Lorenzi Park in Las Vegas to test out you ...
      »maskedman: it didnt appear to be intentional thats why i was curious.ive pitched ...
      »Fleck14: I have found that one of most helpful things an umpire can do to ...
      »DaveDowell: Fleck14 ... BINGO! ... You nailed it ... This should be an area of ...
      »B.J.: Fleck you are correct not enough umpires enforce this.. that is why ...
      »ESteiner25: As a pitcher, I understand the risk of standing in the middle of the ...
      »garyheifner: There is a very powerful hitter we see often who goes hard middle, ...
      »West Coast Mayhem #00: I have no problem enforcing players in the box. My issue is, you ...
      »Jon44: It seems all batters boxes are not created equal. For example, the ...
19 March 9, 2018 1681

MITTS

» garyheifner: If I read the rule changes correctly, anyone can now wear a mitt. I ...
      »Omar Khayyam: As a pitcher and an older player, I have thought about using a mitt ...
      »txnighttrain: New rule permits any player on field to wear a mitt.
      »curveball: nighttrain I was under the ASSumption the mitt rule was added for ...
      »k man: ssusa added that any position can use a mitt effective 2018 while ...
      »curveball: Interesting K Man, thanks for the update.
      »txnighttrain: Curveball, you shouldn't ASSume someone is wrong until you read the ...
      »curveball: txassnighttrain, point well taken. (I book rooms in both early in the ...
7 March 9, 2018 789

Scorekeeping

» 20boy1: In a recent tournament (Las Vegas). Western Nationals, a scoring ...
      »B.J.: the umpires on the field are in charge of keeping the score and as ...
1 March 4, 2018 335

MLB discussing allowing anyone to bat in 9th inning

» Lecak: MLB executives kicking this around to bring excitement to game. ...
      »Dbax: Really asinine!
      »DaveDowell: Sounds a LOT like my Grandson's Tee-Ball league. Not a viable idea ...
      »Webbie25: I just checked-it is not April first yet. You sure this is not fake ...
      »stick8: Joe, it's stick, how are you? Miss seeing you on the field!! A ...
      »OZ40: Not a good idea. If you have a big bucks pitcher and he is pitching a ...
5 March 2, 2018 435

Rating question

» ballplyer19: I currently play 50 Major+. My question is could I play 40 Major's or ...
      »SSUSA Staff: ballplyer19 ... There are a lot of variables in your hypothetical ...
      »ballplyer19: Great I will call them today Thanks
      »marcster13: I believe you have 4 options. 50's Plus and 40's Plus. 50's Major and ...
      »BallPlayer35: So if I am 54 playing the last two years on a 50 Major Plus team and ...
      »SSUSA Staff: BallPlayer35 ... SAME ADVICE AS ABOVE: There are a lot of variables ...
      »titanhd: Have all RATING moves been completed? Barring any appeal(s)Rating as ...
      »SSUSA Staff: titanhd ... Yes, we believe all SSUSA originated end-of-year rating ...
      »ballplyer19: Thanks Marcster13 that's what I thought even though im playing 50 ...
      »SSUSA Staff: ballplyer19 ... Nope, SSUSA does NOT rate players ... But we DO keep ...
9 March 1, 2018 756

Fan interference

» roco36: This question pertains to an unruly (in my opinion) fan. The fan in ...
      »DaveDowell: roco36 ... Your options appear to be a bit limited, and do NOT ...
      »OMD: I WISH there was a "loud" fan rule! I have 3-4 teammates whos wives ...
2 Feb. 24, 2018 537

RULES MADE TO BE BROKEN?

» DD: Elsewhere on this Forum you will find extensive discussion about ...
      »Dbax: 👍👍👍
      »stever: I'm tired of hearing all the complaining about ratings. Does SSUSA ...
      »softball4b: Nothing is ever changed through the message board. Change will only ...
3 Feb. 23, 2018 693

Clarification on Offensive Interference and Catcher Obstruction.

» txnighttrain: During one of our games at TOC we had a batter/runner interfere with ...
      »OZ40: Sounds like there needs to be a general rule on the books regarding ...
      »B.J.: txnighttrain.. the 1st part of your post was correct the b/r should ...
      »OZ40: First of, if the catcher babbling is distracting you then you need ...
      »stick8: I had this in a usssa class D nit game a few years ago. Catcher was ...
      »GORILLA4S: No crying in softball. Hey batter-batter, hey batter-batter, hey ...
      »softball4b: The only voices I hear are the ones in my head and of course my wife ...
      »txnighttrain: I batted .750 at TOC. The issue is not a distraction from talking, ...
      »txnighttrain: I asked the field director and he said catcher can't talk when ball ...
      »txnighttrain: I mean didn't find any wording.
9 Feb. 22, 2018 579

what is the ruling?

» gonz: you have bases loaded and 2 out. batter gets a hit. runner at third ...
      »DaveDowell: An appeal for the out at 1st base is a valid appeal until the umpires ...
      »gonz: had that happen in a game. we appealed before leaving the field. ...
      »lb16: How did your protest turn out?
      »gonz: we still lost. umpire said he called the game once the player from ...
      »lb16: Yes umpire may have called game but if everything happened the way ...
      »stick8: Gonz, I suspect that ump didn't even notice the batter-runner not ...
6 Feb. 21, 2018 407

When runners are entitled to advance

» BillC48: Runners on 1st and 2nd with one out and a fly ball is hit to right ...
      »lb16: Runner gets 3rd and home. Runner already had possession of 2nd so 2 ...
      »DaveDowell: We concur ... lb16 nailed it, especially the "kicker" ... Thanks!
      »k man: You are saying the bag the runner must retouch doe not count as one ...
      »B.J.: k man.. yes.. USSSA rules are different than SSUSA
      »k man: Didn't expect it on this one, though. Guess I'll spend my time on the ...
      »stick8: Kman is right in usssa, its two bases from the outfield--the one you ...
6 Feb. 21, 2018 534

extra innings

» 1jonsey: if the game is tied after 7 innings aren't the extra innings open ...
      »DaveDowell: YES
1 Feb. 14, 2018 233
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