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Fan interference

» roco36: This question pertains to an unruly (in my opinion) fan. The fan in ...
      »DaveDowell: roco36 ... Your options appear to be a bit limited, and do NOT ...
      »OMD: I WISH there was a "loud" fan rule! I have 3-4 teammates whos wives ...
2 Feb. 24, 2018 300

RULES MADE TO BE BROKEN?

» DD: Elsewhere on this Forum you will find extensive discussion about ...
      »Dbax: 👍👍👍
      »stever: I'm tired of hearing all the complaining about ratings. Does SSUSA ...
      »softball4b: Nothing is ever changed through the message board. Change will only ...
3 Feb. 23, 2018 518

MITTS

» garyheifner: If I read the rule changes correctly, anyone can now wear a mitt. I ...
      »Omar Khayyam: As a pitcher and an older player, I have thought about using a mitt ...
      »txnighttrain: New rule permits any player on field to wear a mitt.
      »curveball: nighttrain I was under the ASSumption the mitt rule was added for ...
      »k man: ssusa added that any position can use a mitt effective 2018 while ...
      »curveball: Interesting K Man, thanks for the update.
5 Feb. 22, 2018 451

Clarification on Offensive Interference and Catcher Obstruction.

» txnighttrain: During one of our games at TOC we had a batter/runner interfere with ...
      »OZ40: Sounds like there needs to be a general rule on the books regarding ...
      »B.J.: txnighttrain.. the 1st part of your post was correct the b/r should ...
      »OZ40: First of, if the catcher babbling is distracting you then you need ...
      »stick8: I had this in a usssa class D nit game a few years ago. Catcher was ...
      »GORILLA4S: No crying in softball. Hey batter-batter, hey batter-batter, hey ...
      »softball4b: The only voices I hear are the ones in my head and of course my wife ...
      »txnighttrain: I batted .750 at TOC. The issue is not a distraction from talking, ...
      »txnighttrain: I asked the field director and he said catcher can't talk when ball ...
      »txnighttrain: I mean didn't find any wording.
9 Feb. 22, 2018 431

what is the ruling?

» gonz: you have bases loaded and 2 out. batter gets a hit. runner at third ...
      »DaveDowell: An appeal for the out at 1st base is a valid appeal until the umpires ...
      »gonz: had that happen in a game. we appealed before leaving the field. ...
      »lb16: How did your protest turn out?
      »gonz: we still lost. umpire said he called the game once the player from ...
      »lb16: Yes umpire may have called game but if everything happened the way ...
      »stick8: Gonz, I suspect that ump didn't even notice the batter-runner not ...
6 Feb. 21, 2018 272

When runners are entitled to advance

» BillC48: Runners on 1st and 2nd with one out and a fly ball is hit to right ...
      »lb16: Runner gets 3rd and home. Runner already had possession of 2nd so 2 ...
      »DaveDowell: We concur ... lb16 nailed it, especially the "kicker" ... Thanks!
      »k man: You are saying the bag the runner must retouch doe not count as one ...
      »B.J.: k man.. yes.. USSSA rules are different than SSUSA
      »k man: Didn't expect it on this one, though. Guess I'll spend my time on the ...
      »stick8: Kman is right in usssa, its two bases from the outfield--the one you ...
6 Feb. 21, 2018 422

extra innings

» 1jonsey: if the game is tied after 7 innings aren't the extra innings open ...
      »DaveDowell: YES
1 Feb. 14, 2018 143

Safety of the Game

» Boom Boom 1: How can SSUSA be serious about the safety of the pitcher but still ...
      »SS11: In the 5yrs, I've been playing 40's, haven't heard of anyone being ...
      »#19: If you can't stand the heat ........
      »r4pitch: there was a death in fla this fall..Not a senior..Lets wait till that ...
      »jfsully: https://www.news4jax.com/news/flori...r-tragic-incident-on-nocatee-sof ...
      »bigboy11: So#19, I take it you don't pitch!! You should try it and lets see if ...
      »Boom Boom 1: Here's the correct link from ...
      »Benji4: Why do people come on this board and continually complain about ...
      »HAT MAN: One could also ask why Benji continues to come on this board and ...
      »Benji4: Damn Vinny now people will think we aren't best friends. Haha. You ...
      »#19: bigboy1-Yes, I used to catch, in my younger days ... See Benji4's ...
      »BubbleHead96: As a pitcher I can see both sides of this argument, I was hit this ...
      »BubbleHead96: Oh yeah and for the record the young man killed in Florida was from a ...
12 Feb. 13, 2018 1004

Forfeit or not?

» Willy8: At the Winter Nationals this past November, our team was playing a ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Willy8 ... What age/division and the names of the teams involved? ...
      »Willy8: SSUSA...CC Medical Services vs. Vios in the 70 AAA. The score was ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Willy8 ... We have looked at both the actual game card and the ...
      »Willy8: SSUSA...My main point in the runs against is if that without that one ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Unless, of course, you put up another dozen or so runs in the ...
      »Omar Khayyam: Here is another recent scenario where it wasn't technically a forfeit ...
6 Feb. 4, 2018 894

infield fly rule

» Jinx: Bases loaded, no outs and an easily caught pop up is hit to the ...
      »Rick35: Infield fly...dead ball and the batter is out.
      »coop3636: The umpire should have called "infield fly IF fair" once it hits the ...
      »DaveDowell: coop3636 gets to the correct ruling, but through slightly flawed ...
      »DieselDan: Some rec leagues call a dead ball strike when the net is hit. Some ...
      »coop3636: Hey In our league it is a foul ball, if it is the 3rd strike, you ...
      »DieselDan: You must be a good defensive pitcher Coop.
      »coop3636: I'll leave that opinion to others I just know I am just crazy enough ...
      »k man: Just curious from anyone who pitches. Did you notice any difference ...
      »stick8: Jinx, on the play you described the ump called infield fly before the ...
9 Feb. 4, 2018 503

1-1 or 0-0 Count

» Bob S.: I notice from the survey that the older age groups prefer starting ...
      »GI: Sounds reasonable to me . have 65 and under start 1-1 and every 5 ...
      »OZ40: I suggested that very concept the last time this topic was threaded ...
      »swing for the fences : Seems to me the older age groups get to their positions on the field ...
      »titanhd: I think to make a valid comparison of weather 1-1 speeds up the games ...
      »OZ40: titanhd-unless every team in the tournament took the exact same ...
      »r4pitch: 1-1 speeds up games...most have played this way for 15 years ..we go ...
      »Garocket: I think titanhd has a good idea. play a few of the early tournaments ...
      »Garocket: Sorry that's 80 % of the pool games get 7 innings.
      »titanhd: OZ40. You are correct NO TWO GAMES ARE ALIKE and they won't be ...
      »Bob S.: To me, the issue isn't just about whether the game will go faster. I ...
      »OZ40: titanhd-absolutely correct there is no predicting what team, what ...
      »OZ40: Sorry the above line should read: That is no reason to change a ...
      »r4pitch: to bob s the hitters have senior bats ....the hottest on market ...
      »SSUSA Staff: REMINDER Time is getting short for those who may wish to have their ...
      »txnighttrain: Can you put out the email to the National Rules Committee. I would ...
      »DaveDowell: Email to: info@seniorsoftball.com with "Rules Committee" in the ...
      »The Screamer5: To me the purpose of going to a 1-1 count isn't to speed the game up ...
      »yerwombat: Doesn't throwing strikes really resolve all these issues
      »OZ40: yerwombat- AMEN! As much as this subject has been beaten to death for ...
      »mck71: OZ40, I have refrained from comment on this because I voted and ...
      »OZ40: mck71-Good points, and I too have voted in the survey, that said what ...
      »The Screamer5: It will ALWAYS be a "hitter's" game. That will never change. Last I ...
      »OZ40: It's a hitters game---I've heard that old saw for over half of a ...
      »Crusher23: A few observations to stir the pot, as I had lots of time on my hands ...
      »OZ40: Well said Crusher. As far as pitchers go, every team has one pitcher ...
      »Crusher23: OZ, you and I are on the same page about a lot of things. I've read ...
      »OZ40: Although we qualified for that, we are not going this year. Just ...
      »desertlady: From the this lady's view: I just returned from the tournament in ...
      »SSUSA Staff: desertlady ... That ship sailed about a month ago for the 2018 Season ...
29 Feb. 3, 2018 1831
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SSUSA RULES COMMITTEE 2017 Annual Meeting Minutes

» SSUSA Staff: The link below redirects to the Official Minutes of the 2017 SSUSA ...
      »SSUSA Staff: TECHNICAL RULE BOOK LANGUAGE AMENDMENTS (Rev. 12/15/2017) Redline ...
      »SSUSA Staff: SSUSA RULES COMMITTEE "SPECIAL MEETING" MINUTES January 9, ...
      »SSUSA Staff: SUMMARY OF SIGNIFICANT RULES CHANGES 2018 Season The link below ...
3 Jan. 28, 2018 2893

offensive interference

» roco36: Today I was playing the short field position (eleventh player on the ...
      »B.J.: roco36.. it's a tough call without actually seeing the play.. ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Roco36 ... Not necessarily! The first thing that must be judged by ...
      »roco36: There was no ruling by a somewhat inexperienced umpire. He let the ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Roco36 ... As B.J. inferred, it's tough to make a "paper ruling" not ...
4 Jan. 27, 2018 454

Runner leaving Base Early

» baseballbill: Dave: Is before the Pitched Ball reaches Home Plate the same as the ...
      »B.J.: no... the ball must be hit, make contact with the plate or ground or ...
      »DaveDowell: B.J. is pretty close ... A base runner may leave the base after the ...
      »baseballbill: our problem is: runner leaves on the swing and batter misses the ...
      »DaveDowell: baseballbill ... The runner should be called out by rule ...
      »k man: Sounds like baseballbill wants to know if the ball 'breaks the plane' ...
      »mck71: as an umpire baseballbill, the simple answer is "no" (not runners ...
      »DaveDowell: k man .. I read it (several times) as the dissenter(s) wanting a ...
      »B.J.: Dave, what I meant by being caught in the air... would be a deep ...
      »AncientOne: Dave, you confuse me. In the post where you site the rule, you say ...
      »DaveDowell: That was pretty ambiguous and a poorly worded response! ... Here's ...
      »mck71: AncientOne: my response was to the "swing and miss" post. IF the ...
      »Turbobob: In our 60 plus local senior league, we enforce the rule as stated in ...
      »baseballbill: Turbobob: Your league is modifying the rule. There is a slight ...
      »DaveDowell: Turbobob ...We would disagree that "..There is absolutely nothing to ...
      »marcster13: Geez. All the mentioning of "swing n miss" here has me scratching my ...
15 Jan. 26, 2018 771

Base runner leaving early

» baseballbill: What is the rule definition,I can not find it in the Rule Book ???
      »DaveDowell: Rule Book 6.13 NO PITCH (on pages 36-37) No pitch shall be ...
      »baseballbill: Thanks Dave !!!
2 Jan. 22, 2018 403

first baseman charging the plate during delivery of the pitch

» Randall: I couldn't believe I was watching this happen, but it was an obvious ...
      »lb16: Yes it should be called as defensive interference batter should get ...
      »lb16: I should also add this would all be if in umpire's judgement ...
      »HAT MAN: No such rule. We had a 5 man play to that right and 10 feet in front ...
      »SSUSA Staff: lb16 and HAT MAN ... It appears you have two separate hypothetical ...
      »lb16: SSUSA Staff yes I was referring to Randall's situation. Don't know ...
      »B.J.: Ib16, it could be that he just read your post wrong..I know I have ...
      »rightrj1: Staff, Why is distracting or trying to distract a batter considered ...
      »marcster13: Is the catcher considered a "fielder"? I ask because often catchers ...
      »DaveDowell: rightjr1 and marcster13 ... The rule has it's background a long time ...
      »HAT MAN: Lb16 I don't know why people like you know it all and anyone else who ...
      »lb16: HAT MAN, no I don't know it all never have claimed to. I gave a ...
      »DaveDowell: OK, that's enough ... TWO distinct hypothetical situations here ... ...
12 Jan. 20, 2018 1209

Base Runner in jeopardy or not?

» Steve in Tucson: This situation came up in a game toady. The batter swung and missed ...
      »rlspls1974: See rule 7.4B For each legally pitched ball swung at and missed by ...
      »grayhitter59: Nice play by the catcher, way to be in the game. Except for one ...
      »stick8: To my knowledge, in all of senior softball any swing and miss by the ...
3 Jan. 18, 2018 597

Thoughts on new Courtesy Runner rule

» marcster13: I like the new Courtesy Runner rule. It should help keep the game ...
      »SSUSA Staff: marcster13 ... The "new" Courtesy Runner rule isn't all that complex ...
      »marcster13: Ahhhhhhhhh okay. Totally different than what I thought it was. Not ...
      »DaveDowell: Nope ... The goal is to have the next batter's at-bat start ...
3 Jan. 16, 2018 811

umpire interference

» roco36: A base path umpire interfered with our second baseman as he attempted ...
      »DaveDowell: This isn't specifically covered in the SSUSA Rule Book, but here's an ...
      »B.J.: roco... well the HP umpire got it 1/2 right.. the umpire is ...
      »DaveDowell: B.J. ... I would propose that the HP umpire got it completely right ...
      »B.J.: Dave, you are correct, I mis-read the OP and then your explanation ...
      »DaveDowell: B.J. - The absolutely most accurate part of any of the replies was ...
      »roco36: Thanks for your comments. The umpire did not fall over laughing ...
6 Jan. 14, 2018 580

Today's Big Vote

» NYGNYY: Sometime today we should hear about the rules committee's big ...
      »DaveDowell: NYGNYY ... May be time for a "gut check" ... You'd be very surprised ...
      »DaveDowell: NYGNYY ... I'll "see" your $5 and a Pork Sandwich and "raise" you $5 ...
      »NYGNYY: Dave thanks for keeping this lively. I for one was opposed to the ...
      »B.J.: NYGNYY... i googled it...lol electoral fraud... I like the buying ...
      »DaveDowell: That's hilarious, NYGNYY and B.J. ... Thanks for the education on the ...
5 Jan. 10, 2018 947
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