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what's the call» youngen: What's the call runner on first base and second base with no outs. ...»DaveDowell: youngen ... We answered this for you previously but, unfortunately, ... |
1 | Aug. 15, 2019 | 212 |
rules interpretation» tc4whlr: Runner on 2nd with 2 outs, a line drive hit up the middle, runner ...»B.J.: 1st scenario. Dead ball runner is out... if less than 3 outs batter ... »B.J.: also in 1st ...batting order would go to next batter |
2 | Aug. 13, 2019 | 205 |
Question» bruiser: Need an answer to this one. Bases loaded, no one out. Pop-up behind ...»stick8: Based on your description the run scores. |
1 | Aug. 12, 2019 | 225 |
Correct call» idahoreb: Runner heading to third gets hit on the shoulder with the ball. Ball ...»B.J.: there is no penalty to the base runner.. play on.. unless he did some ... »grayhitter59: once it strike the on deck batter I would call dead ball. »B.J.: grayhitter.. I would have a live ball "IF" he is in the on deck ... »grayhitter59: yeah, depends on what in the vicinity really means. lol »idahoreb: More info. The on deck batter was the second on deck batter which we ... »B.J.: idahoreb.. once the ball enters the dugout it becomes a dead ball.. ... |
6 | Aug. 9, 2019 | 322 |
How does it work» deep14: A team plays in three Qualifiers, does not win anything goes home on ...»TimMcElroy: Have you submitted a ratings appeal form? »The real deal: Yo deep 14 - sounds like we're in the same boat: fodder for the big ... »17Black: Other Associations do this too--------not just SSUSA SSUSA did the ... »STL0: Home runs doesn't necessarily make a team major or not. We won 50 ... »ffdonnie: I can't believe how many people come on here and whine about how bad ... »softballer: Not true just saying »grayhitter59: How about this. Explain to the team that by being moved up the ... »The real deal: Grayhitter: Nope - not looking to "trade in" some teammates for ... »grayhitter59: I agree with you, so then we have to take or poison for at least 2 ... »DaveDowell: Or, a more balanced look at the other side of the same coin ... ... |
10 | Aug. 9, 2019 | 1160 |
Illegal substitute runner» jsheeran: Need correct ruling: In Coldwater, MI a substitute runner came ...»DaveDowell: jsheeran ... The Columbus, IN, approach is the proper way to address ... »B.J.: (We will likely refine this at the National Rules Committee during ... |
2 | Aug. 8, 2019 | 350 |
Correct call» RDSinNEOHIO: Rec league game last Friday night. We're down 6-5, bottom of 7th, ...»nails: No force play. Unless ump didn’t c the runner tag up. »lb16: Never a force play on a fly ball tag up. In your scenario runner ... »lb16: Miss worded a little out could have still been made if runner at 2nd ... »B.J.: lb16 is correct.. question... did the umpire agree that the ... »mck71: BJ, scenario as described never stated the runner from 3rd scored ... »RDSinNEOHIO: The umpire said the runner on 2nd did tag up, but it was still a ... »DaveDowell: Sure hope that umpire didn't trip and fall over his red-tipped white ... »mck71: TOO funny Dave! Sadly RDS, this sounds like an "I am not getting ... »B.J.: wow... i didn't want to say this earlier but I agree with mck71 ... ... »Spock: I'd be much more concerned with the fact that through 6 complete ... »Wayne 37: If the throw beat the runner from 2nd base to the bag, no tag is ... »B.J.: wayne... thank you ... you never fail to give the wrong answer on ... »lb16: Wayne - Slow down take a deep breath read the situation. Runner on ... »Wayne 37: You're going to have show me that one as I've never read, discussed ... »Wayne 37: I searched and cannot find a ruling in the SSUSA rules that supports ... |
15 | July 31, 2019 | 554 |
What's your call on a bang-bang play at a base?» CDNSmitty: So, you hear it all the time..."Tie goes to the runner!" To which I ...»DaveDowell: Since there is no such thing as a "..tie goes to the runner.." ... »B.J.: CDN.. I have never thought of it like that.. when I give a clinic ... »CDNSmitty: Dave, I agree. Consistency is key. BJ, I agree, and I do those ... »TimMcElroy: I can't get behind the theory of all bang-bang plays going to the ... »coop3636: Hey B.J. Just a little advice on your clinics If you have a crafty ... »B.J.: thx. coop »Wayne 37: What you should do is get to your spot on the infield, Get set and ... »B.J.: wayne... sorry ..I'm lost.. hmmm trying to figure this out... ... »Wayne 37: Not what I said, but I totally get the part when you say you're lost. |
9 | July 31, 2019 | 499 |
clarity on 5 runs or 11 defensive players major vs major plus» johnny23: just want to make sure on the 5 runs - when are they awarded? some ...»DaveDowell: For SSUSA sanctioned play, the 5-Run equalizer is awarded at one run ... |
1 | July 27, 2019 | 215 |
Batter's Box» Wayne 37: Since a few posters are flying off the handle at each other, how ...»B.J.: wayne.. I know you mean me.. cuz Dave is only a semi-wanna be ... »lowprofile: Hey Wayne, I'm note interpreting it that way, some portion of both ... »DCPete: Maybe you come from the Bizarro World in the old Superman comics ... »Wayne 37: lowprofile, I understand what you are saying....and you didn't ... »Wayne 37: DCPete, can you describe an IFF rule? Here is one of your statements ... »B.J.: Dave, please shut this post down and end his incoherent babbling »mad dog: i'm with wayne on this.....batters put your feet inside the box ... |
7 | July 20, 2019 | 498 |
Ruling on Run Down» STL0: I was playing in a SSUSA tournament this weekend and had a situation ...»Fuzz: As you stated, it's my understanding the runner is allowed to retreat ... »4040club: It would seem this is the same situation as a run down where the base ... »B.J.: lmao... Dave, just can't let it go huh !!.. well at least this time ... »Nancy Allen: STL0, when I first started umpiring, I mostly did NSA. They had a ... »DaveDowell: HAT MAN - Vinny, you are absolutely correct in your criticism ... I ... »B.J.: Dave, no problem, and my apologies also the conversation just got a ... »lb16: STL0 - To answer your question if it wasn't already. I missed the BJ ... »STL0: I guess I missed some previous dialogue and the question got hijacked ... |
8 | July 17, 2019 | 429 |
Dang» Wayne 37: Why lock a thread after only two days? Going back to the courtesy ... |
0 | July 15, 2019 | 96 |
Does the run count?» cheezhed1: Recently in our local senior league we had a play that needs ...»DaveDowell: YES. This gets asked frequently, but the timing play aspects ... »B.J.: when a run scores is under RULE 5.7 .. for your scenario read 5.7 B ... »stick8: Cheezhed1, Dave is correct and BJ listed the correct rule #. Its a ... »DaveDowell: stick8 ... Or my related favorite: "Five on three", two outs and the ... »TexasTransplant: Dave, it even makes me mad when I see a player on the opposing team ... »mad dog: yep dave .... that is a good one also...caught a team doing that and ... |
6 | July 11, 2019 | 699 |
Touching Portion of the 1B Double Bag in Foul Territory» SCUBA: A batter hits a double, but in doing so only touches the portion of ...»B.J.: yes it is ok.. their is no penalty for the batter if he only touches ... |
1 | July 8, 2019 | 306 |
COURTESY RUNNER» titanhd: RULE: A courtesy runner must report to, and be acknowledged by, the ...»TimMcElroy: This rule rule change was intended to speed up the game. Getting ... »Gavin5: I believe it's unreasonable to expect the umpire to keep up with the ... »DaveDowell: Respectfully, this circumstance had nothing to do with an illegal CR ... »stick8: Titanhd, good games last week! I didn’t see exactly what occurred ... »B.J.: As an umpire I never want it said I was looking for a cheap out.. ... »DaveDowell: B.J. - The "legislative intent", as Tim mentioned, was ONLY to save ... »B.J.: Dave, I understand and that is great that it is discussed in the ... »DaveDowell: §8.5(5) • COURTESY RUNNER OFFICIALLY IN THE GAME ...A courtesy ... »titanhd: In our case the UMPIRE knew the rule and knew we were in "violation" ... »DaveDowell: B.J. ... Here's a more concise language change, which I believe ... »B.J.: Dave, this is the meeting I referred to (the Nat'l Rules Committee ... »DaveDowell: B.J. ... I (We?) may be "picking at nits" here, but the CR may still ... »stick8: I do agree with BJ that it isn’t the umpires responsibility to go ... »Nancy Allen: I agree except on a point raised by Gavin5 and alluded to by stick8. ... »B.J.: Dave... lol that's why it's always good to have a can of nit spray ... »stick8: Nancy what you and BJ do is what I try to do but I feel the best way ... »B.J.: Stick, the C/R should not have been allowed into the game and yes 2 ... »Nancy Allen: stick8, I totally agree with BJ but will most likely never use a ... »stick8: BJ and Nancy, there is one more part of the rule. That player who ... »Nancy Allen: stick8, ok, I will share mine. We were at a qualifier. Our good ... »garyheifner: When a CR goes out to run in the same inning for a 2nd time, It is ... »Nancy Allen: Gary, the times that I have seen it all seemed to be senior moments. ... |
22 | July 5, 2019 | 682 |
Do we win or do we lose» joebodyman: Here is the situation. Bottom of the seventh inning, game tied, with ...»TexasTransplant: It's a timing play. If the runner from third crossed the plate ... »DaveDowell: If the correct call was made, you are a WINNER and the game is over ... »1bounce: The defensive team could still appeal that the runner on 3rd left ... »DaveDowell: While that is a true statement, it was not a component of the ... »lb16: Question is what did the ump call. I am assuming he called it ... »stick8: Joebodyman, the run scores, game over. It’s a timing play, not a ... »joebodyman: The umpire called it correctly but there was a lot of discussion on ... »grayhitter59: Hey Dave, in this case if they would have appealed runner leaving ... »lb16: grayhitter59 - This is a timing play if runner scored before appeal ... »Nancy Allen: There is a lot of confusion between a force out and what we in the ... »DaveDowell: TexasTransplant has stated the best (by far) simple rule to remember ... »Wayne 37: Another one is appeals aren't time plays. |
12 | July 1, 2019 | 733 |
Explaination please» Wayne 37: garocket writes: Wayne I thought you were an UMPIRE. You said ... |
0 | June 30, 2019 | 244 |
foul ball on no fouls left» bkb555: if a player catches a foul ball on the batter's "no fouls left" is it ...»mck71: bkb - 9.4 • FOUL FINAL STRIKE Upon hitting a foul ball on the final ... »Wayne 37: Catch and carry the ball is dead all runners awarded one base. »B.J.: yes and the runners can advance on "1st touch".. on the catch and ... »lb16: B.J. - Not in Wayne's world!! »Wayne 37: Unless something has changed: A FOUL BALL is a batted ball that ... »DaveDowell: Fellas, it's an excellent idea to get your terminology precise and ... »lb16: Dave - So would a base runner who left the bag on 1st touch on a ball ... »DaveDowell: lb16 ... I concur and, more important, so does the Official SSUSA ... »Wayne 37: D. First hits the ground or is FIRST TOUCHED OVER FOUL TERRITOR ... »DaveDowell: Seems straight forward to most of us ... Certainly not in the ... »B.J.: sorry I can't help it.. I have to agree with wayne on part of ... »Wayne 37: A little edit for clarity would be GREAT! Pass this around at your ... »DaveDowell: Thanks Wayne ... Write it up and submit it through proper channels ... |
13 | June 22, 2019 | 865 |
interpretation» curty: situation: Bottom of last inning, bases loaded, no out, home team ...»lb16: I have triple play ball game! Ump got it right the 1st time. »Wayne 37: I don't even know what you just said. Left out a lot of detail it ... »Wayne 37: situation: Bottom of last inning, bases loaded, no out, home tea ... »Uncle Mike: Sounds like R2 crossed the commitment line (not the scoring line) and ... »JimmyG: Agree with Uncle Mike »Wayne 37: Uncle Mike, How is R3 out of baseline (base path)? The runner ... »dug8: Is R2 out because he crossed the commitment line? Is he out ... »Wayne 37: Good questions dug8. I'm glad it wasn't my game is all I can say. »B.J.: curty.. runner 1 scores.. runner 2 you said passed the scoring ... »Wayne 37: The most fascinating part of this post is that the offensive team ... »AJC: Actually the tying run would have been on 3rd and the winning run on ... »stick8: Going by the play as described: —Obviously R1 scored. R2 crossed ... »Uncle Mike: I understand what you guys are saying- runner makes his own base ... »AJC: I should also add... why did the 3rd base coach send R2 home in that ... »Wayne 37: a direct line from base to base and that you can deviate 3 feet from ... »Uncle Mike: The key sentence to me is : After 25 minutes of discussion, only the ... »curty: my bad on "scoring line" as it was commit line. Runner called for out ... »stick8: Uncle Mike, that umpire was incorrect calling R3 out for running out ... »Uncle Mike: @stick8 That's why I said he should of appealed and won. The umpire ... »stick8: Uncle Mike, I didn’t read Curtys post until just now. I’m not sure ... »stick8: And you’re correct about appealing, presuming it’s to the other ... »Wayne 37: I probably would have tossed the coach just for running across the ... »TXTrouble3: Great scenario discussion...I do have a question regarding "Commit ... »DaveDowell: TXTrouble3 ... Base runner retreating back to the 3rd base side of ... »stick8: TXTrouble3, Dave is corrrct, it’s an automatic out. No tagging is ... |
25 | June 15, 2019 | 923 |
Ruling» garyheifner: Batter mis-hits a short pop up down 1st base line short of 1st base. ...»45caliber: Foul ball once in foul territory »BOURGEOIS: If the bat is dropped in foul territory and the ball rolls into the ... »BOURGEOIS: See Video ... »B.J.: Bourgeois has the correct call »lb16: And what was umpires explanation as to why this was a fair ball? »stick8: Foul ball »Nancy Allen: Definitely foul. Maybe the umpire misapplied this rule (only ever ... »garyheifner: ump was told that ruling by another ump »Nancy Allen: Did he phone it in? Goodness. BJ, if you say anything about Austin, ... »garyheifner: Same ump just asked me tonight--what if the bat was in fair territory? »Nancy Allen: Gary, the rule above would apply. The only catch would be whether ... »garyheifner: Thanks for the replies Just something that we don't see often. »Wayne 37: [[[the rule above would apply. The only catch would be whether the ... »Nancy Allen: It is a baseball video. This is softball. 9.2 R above has the word ... »B.J.: wayne.. here try this web-site it's for BASEBALL umpires then you ... »stick8: Had a play in a high school baseball game earlier this year. No one ... »Wayne 37: Question. Why would anybody in their right mind intentionally throw ... »Nancy Allen: stick8, I agree, but when the rule specifically says intention that ... »jimperry19: At one time I found the whole Nancy Allen, Wayne, BJ thing kind of ... »Wayne 37: I agree...I can discuss a rule, but on the other hand |
20 | June 12, 2019 | 1009 |
