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seeding games

» johnny23: Just wondering if there is any rule stating you must play in seeding ...
      »DaveDowell: Not in SSUSA sanctioned play. We rate teams as though every player is ...
      »wdodge22: Johnny23 As long as the player is on the SSUSA approved roster ...
      »johnny23: Ok - that being established -if you were on the roster - but- could ...
      »mck71: Johnny23 - USUALLY yes if said player has history with your team from ...
      »softball4b: I must be missing something. To avoid sandbagging or blocking out ...
      »HSquared: While this thread appears to address or focus on a player, can a ...
      »DaveDowell: H˛ ... Yes they may ... However, they will be deemed to lose their ...
      »HSquared: At the TOC, 65+ AA, team Electrifiers (TX), did not play in round ...
      »DaveDowell: H˛ ... The rule has a "tournament director's discretion" option (see ...
9 Feb. 5, 2023 925

pitching screen placement

» Larry S: We have been using a pitching screen in our local league many years. ...
      »GMCinCOS: Larry - here is our current rule regarding net in front of ...
1 Feb. 4, 2023 128

rule 4.5 Americans with disability act rule

» Shidoshi: What kind of documentation is needed for this? Is there a ...
0 Feb. 2, 2023 128

Change in Player Eligibility for 75+ and 80+ Teams

» Lumberjack16: At the recent SSUSA Rules committee meeting, SSUSA decided to change ...
      »4040club: As a manager of an 80s team, I agree that this is a significant ...
      »spider9188: Rich and 4040club...couldn't agree with you more...bummer. Sorry to ...
      »Lumberjack16: Could someone at SSUSA please provide us with the reasoning behind ...
      »DaveDowell: The underage player allowances were created over a decade ago when ...
4 Jan. 31, 2023 621

scoring line in senior softball

» Rox11: Can a runner, who has fallen and is past the commit line, touch down ...
      »Mason's Grandpa: Short answer. YES, as long as he did not dive across the line.
      »B.J.: rox11.. in your post you ask about the CL then you ask about ...
      »DaveDowell: I'm tempted to use the NFL definition of the catch/no-catch criteria ...
      »B.J.: yes I agree that he's over the line.. but in all my years of umpiring ...
      »Darjlov: In my opinion, I think the new guideline of having both feet cross ...
      »Webbie25: BJ, we (a couple umpires and directors and I) were discussing that ...
      »DieselDan: Suggestion for all rec players/umpires. You might want to make ...
      »B.J.: DieselDan.. we have 5 mens divisions and 3 ladies divisions rec ...
8 Jan. 28, 2023 616

4 game tournaments

» Tucson Norm: The new 4 game guarantee means pay more for less, not a good deal.
      »Webbie25: Norm, costs have skyrocketed for everything. Eggs are 8 bucks a dozen ...
      »SKings24: In NorCal they run 3 Game Pool Play into Single Elim so teams get 4 ...
      »AJC: SKings, those are actually USSSA senior tournaments and are done in 1 ...
3 Jan. 27, 2023 562

un-coordinated 2nd baseman

» Bigtimer40: Last week we had Runner on 1st, ball was a normal grounder hit to 2nd ...
      »FTP: Good call. Doesn't sound like either intentionally did anything to ...
      »Rob64: Fielder has the base path on a played ball @ that point the runner ...
      »Rob64: So did they get the double play by fielding or was it called a double ...
      »DaveDowell: There's no mention in the OP about any double play ...
      »Rob64: And I wasn't there to see the play ether so I can't answer on the ...
      »Bigtimer40: There was no chance for a DP. So i just let the play stand as 1 out ...
      »Rob64: Thanks for the reply and good call!
7 Jan. 25, 2023 399

9. Make safety bag plays safer

» softball4b: I think this rules change misses the mark. I believe this creates ...
      »B.J.: i agree 100% .. and now the defense is being rewarded for making a ...
      »DirkPitt: Not sure I understand the logic on this one. This will cause a lot ...
      »Rob64: Logic? What about 1 and 1 count with an extra foul? Advantage to the ...
      »DieselDan: And with one umpire games, as long as the majority of umpires stay ...
      »Dbax: This passed 11-0??? What are they thinking?
      »JohnO28: I dont' understand how you guys think this isn't a safer option. If ...
      »B.J.: john028.. I have umpired senior ball for over 20yrs and I've seen ...
      »DirkPitt: The fact that ASA/USA has this rule is irrelevant. We are talking ...
8 Jan. 16, 2023 609

Mask requirement when using pitching screen

» Dee in AZ: My over 50's league requires pitchers to wear a protective mask but ...
      »hackman: Our Vintage League uses a screen and also requires wearing a mask. ...
      »BruceinGa: In our 45+ league here in Marietta, GA we use a screen. It is placed ...
      »mck71: Good answer Bruce! :-) Dee - SSUSA does not REQUIRE a pitching ...
      »curveball: What is the purpose of having a screen if it's not required to be ...
      »BruceinGa: Curve, personal responsibility.
      »Omar Khayyam: Our over-50 league has players of mixed ages, even up into the 90s. A ...
6 Jan. 15, 2023 449
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2022-23 SSUSA NATIONAL RULES COMMITTEE MEETINGS • Official Minutes

» SSUSA Staff: The link below redirects to the Official Minutes of the 2022 SSUSA ...
0 Jan. 13, 2023 915

1st Base force out

» John27: Ground ball is batted to infielder and thrown to 1st base for put ...
      »Turning2: Any part of the fielders body, including his hand inside the empty ...
      »John27: Turning2, Florida Half Century. I thought it was a force out also.
      »DaveDowell: B.J. ... What say you on this as one of the Big Dawgs in The ...
      »B.J.: that's a great question to start the new year... Dave, 1st instinct ...
      »Turning2: DD - curious why you wouldn't comment? And BJ, correct this is a ...
      »DaveDowell: Thanks B.J. ... In SSUSA sanctioned play, we've never seen the ...
      »Michael Plunkett: When will results of rules committee decisions be posted or can Some ...
      »DaveDowell: Michael ... See ▲ immediately above ▲ ... The National ...
      »B.J.: DD & John27 .. I haven't worked FHC in several years but I went to ...
      »DaveDowell: Thanks B.J. ... We have a few of those type of "make it up on the ...
      »B.J.: DD... lmao .. yes I remember working with 1 years ago
      »Michael Plunkett: Thank you Dave, didn’t see message intertwined among that “supposed” ...
12 Jan. 11, 2023 666

Tie-Breaker in Round-Robin Play

» SCUBA: SSUSA Rulebook 2019-2020, Rule 13.6 Tie-Breaker in Round-Robin ...
      »mck71: Their def is the same as most, means if you play every team in your ...
      »SCUBA: Thanks, mck71. Your explanation certainly makes a lot of ...
      »mck71: Simple answer, yes Scuba. Usually happens with odd number of teams ...
      »Rob64: That would be nice to play a round robin with an 8 team bracket and ...
      »DaveDowell: SCUBA ... It's not unusual for that type of structure at all ... For ...
      »garyheifner: As long as tournament formats came up: The 75 AAA played "4" ...
      »DaveDowell: Well, that didn't take long for the first 50% advocate to chime in! ...
7 Dec. 26, 2022 393

Roster makeup

» garyheifner: Is this still the rule for 2023 season? An 80s team can have up to ...
      »DaveDowell: gary ... The answers are: YES • YES • YES (if he fits in the "not ...
      »garyheifner: Thanks Dave-My team is hoping to move up to 80s and just want to ...
2 Dec. 15, 2022 328

CHANGE IN POLICY FOR PLAYERS COMPETING IN TWO AGE GROUPS - CLARIFICATION "A SSUSA ...

» christom10: I posted this on the wrong thread. CHANGE IN POLICY FOR PLAYERS ...
0 Dec. 12, 2022 301

Teams looking for players

» Rob64: For example Can a team out of Michigan pick 2 players from states not ...
      »DieselDan: Here's the link to the current rule book. Your answer should be in ...
      »DaveDowell: A Michigan team may add two players (not from Michigan or one of its ...
      »Rob64: Thanks
      »DirkPitt: Dave, does that mean the exception that was originally for COVID ...
      »DaveDowell: DirkPitt ... We won't make any potential rules changes until the ...
      »Rob64: How do they get added to the roster? I don't see an option online ...
      »readytoplay: Is it correct that a California based 75+ team may add players from ...
      »DaveDowell: Yes, that's correct ...
      »Rob64: How do the players get added do you have to call SSUSA to have them ...
9 Dec. 4, 2022 726

Home plate issue

» tall_thunder: Is there some way to solve a moving home plate mat. We had a play a ...
      »DaveDowell: tall_thunder ... The rule book specifically addresses this ...
      »Rangview85: Since we are talking rules.... I have an umpires two man mechanics ...
      »The Screamer5: Rangview85...those things are usually discussed between the two ...
      »B.J.: rangeview.. I agree with screamer for the most part but I teach and ...
      »stick8: Screamer it’s important to do a pregame with your partner to go over ...
      »tall_thunder: Dave, I understand your rule. You know a play at the plate pretty ...
      »DaveDowell: This is the second of two threads you initiated where the answers ...
7 Nov. 28, 2022 847

Pinch Hitter

» DJ12: Scenario: new pitcher comes into the game top of 5. At the bottom ...
      »mck71: DJ - OK, so good question and I assume someone with specific SSUSA ...
      »DJ12: Thanks mck71
      »k man: Was the new pitcher a substitute for the original pitcher? If so and ...
      »B.J.: they are not pitch hitters they are considered substitutes and a ...
      »B.J.: 4.7 • SUBSTITUTES A substitute may take the place of a player whose ...
      »mck71: Thx BJ. I was thinking that according to OP, the manager ...
      »B.J.: No, neither pitcher can re-enter at the pitching position ... pitcher ...
      »Rob64: What is the rule number for a pitcher leaving that position and going ...
      »B.J.: Rob64, my mistake yes the starting pitcher may re-enter.. I was ...
      »DJ12: Thanks everyone, this was an interesting conversation. So you know, ...
10 Nov. 27, 2022 579

CHANGE IN POLICY FOR PLAYERS COMPETING IN TWO AGE GROUPS

» Mountain Man: How about the reverse? If a player is 65M+, would he still be ...
      »DaveDowell: Please re-read the SSUSA statement carefully ... It applies ONLY to ...
      »Webbie25: I think this is an excellent move. We have several players in our ...
      »Rob64: We have several players in our area that have always played that way, ...
      »DaveDowell: SSUSA tracks all player history and the rating(s) of the team(s) they ...
      »titanhd: A player playing 60 M which has a rating index of 6 can play on any ...
      »DaveDowell: ...so long as he's otherwise eligible as to age, residency and ...
      »Puppydog44: GREAT RULE SSUSA!!!
      »Rob64: Just curious Puppydog44 how is this a great rule? Just asking how ...
      »LMR: In the Midwest (Wisconsin) we do not have the player pool other areas ...
      »Rob64: LMR give an example of how it would benefit your team by age and ...
      »christom10: ROB64. A team has 5 guys who play 40M. Under the old rule those ...
      »HSquared: christom10 (et al) Would it then also seem to reason that the newly ...
      »Rob64: christom10 same example I gave to LMR above your comment? Right just ...
      »Rob64: In my statement the 60AAA players should have been rated 60M.
      »Rob64: 6 40 year olds can't play 50s if thier not of age.
      »DaveDowell: Rob64 ... Let's make this hypothetical example really simple so even ...
      »Rob64: Thanks Dave. I understand and also know that's how it's been played ...
      »DaveDowell: I'm not sure about that having been "officially" the case in Michigan ...
      »Bruce M: I think this is a great change to an already great policy. SSUSA has ...
      »christom10: HSquared. In your scenario, no. 5 50 major guys who all drop down ...
      »Sandman: What about playing down an age division. Can a 65M team add two 60M ...
21 Nov. 18, 2022 1831

ow to appeal a call

» JBTexas : DD, we can't find anything in the current rulebook that tells the ...
      »Donna McGuire: JBTexas, can you be more specific on what you are appealing? (There ...
      »JBTexas : Dead ball, appealing runner leaving second to early what steps does ...
      »mad dog: so your saying the runner left before the pitcher pitched the ...
      »B.J.: JB.. below are the types of appeals that can be made.. If you ...
      »JBTexas : Runner left to soon on a fly to outfield, runner advances and umpire ...
      »B.J.: JB.. a full explanation was given above.. and a pitcher is not ...
      »mck71: JB - old dead ball appeal methodology required the pitcher to be on ...
      »JBTexas : I agree with everything you stated but most time it is the pitcher ...
      »mck71: Understood. We are old men stuck in our old ways. LOL Simply let ...
      »stick8: Dead ball appeal used be next batter in the box, pitcher on the mound ...
10 Nov. 2, 2022 644

How would you call this one?

» stick8: Runner on first, one out. Batter hits a fly ball to left center. ...
      »B.J.: Stick.. Yes I would have the B/R out
      »B.J.: Stick, I know you like to sometimes word scenarios a certain way.. ...
      »DaveDowell: I agree with B.J. (in both of his posts) ... Here's a pretty easily ...
      »k man: Is that on appeal or an automatic umpire call?
      »DaveDowell: k man ... That's NOT an appeal call ... It's an automatic immediate ...
      »Turning2: to all - i agree with the call, batter/runner is out for passing ...
      »B.J.: T2.. there is no need for B/R to re-rouch 1st base and there is no ...
      »stick8: BJ you are correct in your assumption. This happened in a mens league ...
8 Oct. 23, 2022 493
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