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Is there a penalty for batter not releasing the bat after reaching 1st base?

» Turbobob: I'm in a 60 plus league using SSUSA rules. We do not use a runner's ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Turbobob ... You likely erred (by reference to your own description ...
      »Dancer: Then again it is senior league. The guy might have been using the bat ...
      »Omar Khayyam: Dancer, LOL
      »curty: I believe USSSA instituted a rule covering this a few years back as ...
      »Hit the gap: The real question is why the heck would you want to carry your bat to ...
      »k man: Hit the Gap - how about the batter was using a doctored bat, or a bat ...
      »Turbobob: Hey Gap and k man. There are a few players in our league that hit a ...
      »dand: I recently played in the Buckeye Classic, an SPA tournament. The ...
8 July 17, 2016 905

USING COURTESY RUNNERS

» NYGNYY: Trying to understand the use of courtesy runners. This past weekend ...
      »SSUSA Staff: It appears that the umpire erred ... Any player, starter or ...
      »Omar Khayyam: An often misunderstood concept by umpires and by managers! When I was ...
2 July 15, 2016 459

1-1-----0-0 count

» garyheifner: Staff We have beat this topic to death and then eliminated it from ...
      »Fred S: I like that better than 1-1. It still gives 2 pitches to fool around ...
      »SS13: I think anything is better than 0-0. I would try that for sure.
      »Omar Khayyam: As a pitcher, I like gary's suggestion. I have not been a fan of ...
      »southpaw: As a pitcher, I like this idea as well. After all, we are throwing ...
      »17Black: I am open to all ideas' not sure about the 8 inning games ...
      »k man: 17Black- regarding the outfielders, of which I am one, and that only ...
      »17Black: k man --- AGREED, outfielders defensively/offensively/base running, ...
      »k man: 17Black and thanks for reminding me, senior bats for SSUSA, double ...
      »Don5: Personally I like the 1-1 count, with hot bats and balls, the batter ...
9 July 3, 2016 799

I've never seen this before

» k man: In our 40+ USSSA umpired league the other night, there was a play I ...
      »B.J.: This isn't a U-Trip web site....it's senior softball but I used to ...
      »joel 1975: see if you had have played asa instead of u-trip you would have seen ...
      »k man: BJ- a) I know it's a senior softball website b) I was hoping some of ...
      »B.J.: once a pitched ball hits the strike mat or the ground it is a dead ...
4 June 30, 2016 322

End cap reglued Altered Bat

» mslacool: I had an old combat that the end kept coming off of, ( happened to a ...
      »Dancer: In my opinion, no it is not altered. However, ask them if they want ...
      »SSUSA Staff: mslacool ... We are familiar with the end cap issue with some of the ...
      »bkb555: can an aftermarket end cap be used if the original cap is broken?
      »SSUSA Staff: We would think not ... An aftermarket cap by definition is not the ...
4 June 28, 2016 578

2nd base RUN BY LINE

» 1jonsey: several years ago I played in the Fla. Senior Games and they used a ...
      »DieselDan: This rule, as far as I know, is not a rule of any national SB ...
      »TexasTransplant: Here is the rule as used in the Metroplex Senior Softball Association ...
      »Omar Khayyam: We play with the run through rule on second base and third base in ...
      »stick8: Several years there was a winter indoor league we played in that had ...
4 June 8, 2016 384

flip flop and one up in league play

» BruceinGa: We potentially had a situation last night in our league game. We are ...
      »B.J.: Bruce... I don't see flip flop being an issue it's the same rule...if ...
      »Jawood: A 1 and 1 count will speed up your league play without having to ...
      »BruceinGa: We already have the 1-1 count. I have proposed we do away with 4 hrs ...
      »stick8: I'm not certain playing 3-2 speeds the game up because IMO most ...
      »BruceinGa: I seem to remember a few years ago someone clocked several games, 1-1 ...
      »DoubleL10: Bruce, Seriously...in slow pitch guys step out and adjust their ...
      »BruceinGa: You got it LL! To make things worse, he is a teammate on our 50 ...
      »BruceAZ: Bruce, in our league play we play 2 innings in the field at a time ...
      »BruceinGa: That might be an option. I'll mention it to our board.
      »DCPete: Be careful what you wish for; if you flip-flop in the 7th then start ...
      »Omar Khayyam: We also play double innings in the field and it is neither tiring nor ...
11 May 28, 2016 598

Player touches batting mat after home run

» TrooperJim: In a game last week, the bases were loaded, two outs and the batter ...
      »BruceinGa: This has been discussed here in the past. If it was hit and sit that ...
      »SSUSA Staff: We concur with BruceinGa ... Since "hit and sit" was instituted a ...
      »Paco13: This is another one of those of stupid is what stupid does. Another ...
3 May 25, 2016 762

Foul Tip

» softball4b: Count no balls no strikes. Ball is tipped directly back and the ...
      »SSUSA Staff: SSUSA sanctioned event ruling: Foul tip, count is no balls, one ...
      »Turbobob: In our 60 plus senior league, we just modified the SSUSA rule so that ...
      »Omar Khayyam: Turbobob, good idea! In our league, when we have too many teams ...
      »mad dog: most of the assoc's now have it as an out if the ball does anything ...
      »taits: I concur with the out no matter the height but a caught ball. ...
5 May 19, 2016 719

Confusion on coach's interference.

» Dodger Don: In a game at the Southwest Championships in Las Vegas the following ...
      »B.J.: the play as you describe it....and if the fielder made an attempt to ...
      »k man: Agree with BJ . Only possibility is that it could be a judgment call ...
      »OZ40: Runner may not advance on a third strike foul period. Even if the ...
      »k man: OZ40 - SSUSA rule 9.4 ball 3rd strike foul caught in air batter is ...
      »The Screamer5: I believe the ruling umpire made the correct call in that ...
      »mad dog: so oz40...a ball hit down the line that is caught by an outfielder in ...
      »k man: btw, in our local weekday league, foul ball on last strike is a dead ...
      »B.J.: Screamer5....yes this is a dead ball situation but the umpire does ...
      »OZ40: I read the rule and I just don't understand the reasoning behind it. ...
      »B.J.: OZ40....better yet educate your fielders not to catch a foul ball 3rd ...
      »mad dog: B.J. yep....now i do know one assoc that does it this way...and its ...
      »OZ40: It's easy not to catch a foul third strike IF it's clearly foul, what ...
      »mitch1414: This is a standard baseball/softball rule with one addition. We hav ...
      »OZ40: I guess I sort of hi-jacked this thread. When a batter comes to the ...
      »Dodger Don: Apparently I didn't make this clear. It's not what anybody thinks the ...
      »OZ40: Dodger, again I apologize if I hi-jacked the thread here. I agree ...
      »Dodger Don: I think by allowing a third strike foul to be caught keeps the game ...
      »OZ40: On a close fly near a foul line as it stands now the umpire still ...
      »B.J.: OZ... you keep calling a caught foul ball with 2 strikes on the ...
      »mitch1414: Oz it is a standard rule that has been changed by several different ...
      »OZ40: Mitch, I respectfully disagree. If a third strike foul is in the ...
      »16wood: It can't be a '3rd strike foul out' until it hits the ground past the ...
22 May 18, 2016 995

Is it a strike if ball hits front edge of strike mat and also kicks up some dirt?

» Turbobob: Our senior league uses the official strike mat as stated in the ...
      »k man: Turbo, you yourself said: ball hits the front edge of the mat. ...
      »Turbobob: k man, so you are saying that even if the ball hits the front of the ...
      »k man: just my opinion based on how I've seen things called over the years. ...
      »OZ40: As long as the arc requirement is met it seems that the upper edge of ...
      »The Screamer5: As an umpire, I get hear this ALL the time. Batters complain that ...
      »k man: btw, shouldn't be any different than if it hits the side edge or the ...
      »neck10: but just think if the ball bounds upward and back toward pitcher then ...
      »Dancer: We call it a cheap strike, but still a strike. and most likely the ...
      »Don5: In 2017 they will be using square spongy balls, much like the stote ...
      »Don5: Yes I used the word "muck" that wasn't a typo, most of you will ...
      »garyheifner: Have had the post happen many times. Quite often, the ump has ruled ...
      »patrick jt: did someone strike out
      »Turbobob: Thanks for all of your input, which is what I asked for. I believe ...
13 May 18, 2016 800

Chopped Ball

» Steve in Tucson: If a batter make an attempt to chop the ball but hits a "normal" ...
      »Fred S: Agree but try and get an ump to call it.
      »VOODOOSPORTS: the batter is not out unless the attempt and result visually match. ...
      »mad dog: so voodoo.why would you do so....the guy hit the ball into the ...
      »k man: mad dog, completely agree with you. I can remember a time I had 2 ...
      »VOODOOSPORTS: I guess I should clarify. This is how it is in USSSSA. As also seen ...
      »VOODOOSPORTS: it should say i have seen.....in my original post
6 April 26, 2016 696

Is the runner out at first?

» Steve in Tucson: On a play at first base, the first baseman fielded a ball with his ...
      »B.J.: yes the runner is out on all of the above....the glove is considered ...
      »Steve in Tucson: Thank you.
      »titanhd: Runner is out but, not because the "glove is an extension of the ...
3 April 23, 2016 490

missing first bse

» B.J.: STAFF: I asked this question about your post on 4/10 and I guess you ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Here are a few quick examples of a valid LBA being made non-verbally ...
      »B.J.: STAFF great answers especially the 2nd one which is the only one ...
      »Webbie25: I have played first base a lot. There are times, especially when ...
3 April 22, 2016 494

missing first base

» LMR: Ball hit to infielder. Runner obviously beats throw by passing base ...
      »Webbie25: As long as the first baseman catches the ball touching first base, ...
      »B.J.: if the batter/runner beats the throw and misses the base he should be ...
      »lb16: B.J. is correct if runner beats throw to first defensive team must ...
      »SSUSA Staff: We concur with B.J. and lb16 ... A runner who, in the course of ...
      »Dbax: How is an appeal made before the runner returns to the base?
      »BruceinGa: Three or four years ago it was the same for a runner touching the ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Dbax ... If the batter-runner has "passed" the base before the ball ...
      »Dbax: Staff, thank you. I was referring to the post by B. J.
      »k man: Staff, you say that the runner is initially safe as he passes 1st ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Most professional umpires are likely to rule the runner safe at first ...
      »PoollShark: I don't get it. If the runner beats the throw to first but passes ...
      »SSUSA Staff: PoolShark ... Please carefully re-read our first post in this thread ...
      »B.J.: poolshark....its the same as a runner going 1st to 3rd and missing ...
      »stick8: If I'm umpiring and the stated scenario takes place I verbally call ...
      »PoollShark: I meant to convey that I know that's how it's called and I just ...
      »SSUSA Staff: But there's just that pesky little 100+ year old rule that declares ...
      »lb16: PoollShark - I understand your concern, look at it this way runner ...
      »DCPete: Or a runner leaving a base early on a sacrifice fly . . .
      »Webbie25: So you are saying, as a runner if I miss the bag going by, but beat ...
      »B.J.: webbie...YES....there has to be a VERBAL appeal while the fielder is ...
      »BruceinGa: Having played first base most of my softball life I can say that ...
      »SSUSA Staff: B.J. - Here's our post to you on 10/29/2013 that discusses the Live ...
      »BruceinGa: So in a LBA situation the defense must touch the runner or base where ...
      »B.J.: STAFF on my last post I said do a VERBAL appeal while being on the ...
      »The Screamer5: I don't believe it matters when or if the batter-runner has made it ...
      »B.J.: screamer5....NO...once the runner returns to the bag safely an appeal ...
      »The Screamer5: BJ...The appeal by the defense is simply asking the umpire if the ...
      »B.J.: screamer...NO...the window closes as soon as the runner returns ...
      »stick8: BJ the answer to your question would be sign language :)
29 April 12, 2016 1286

Rule question

» stattad: I looked in my rulebook and can't find anything that covers this. It ...
      »Fred S: Rule 8.1.C.The ball is dead and runners may not advance unless ...
      »cuda65: I play ASA in McAllen, Texas and they allow stealing. In the ...
      »Fred S: Right forgot that part.
      »Tommy00: But, it is not a force out. The catcher would have to tag the runner ...
      »OZ40: Tommy In all the senior ball leagues I've seen and played in, if the ...
      »Tommy00: OZ, I 100% agree with that, except for the fact that the OP said it ...
      »stattad: OZ is right. The catcher can never tag a runner at the plate.
      »stick8: Stattad, was this a senior league or regular mens league? I've never ...
8 April 12, 2016 680

Batter batting out of order

» Steve in Tucson: I'm looking for clarification of the wording in rule 7.1 - Batting ...
      »B.J.: it is worded that way because if the defense were to appeal that the ...
      »B.J.: to add to that if the wrong batter makes an out and the defense does ...
2 April 7, 2016 402

Re-classification

» CAT: Can anyone tell me how an individual can reclassify his status to a ...
      »SSUSA Staff: There is no specific form to fill out to APPLY for a modification of ...
      »CAT: Thank you for the immediate responses from the SSUSA staff. We are ...
2 April 6, 2016 707

Batter Runner reaching first base

» Steve in Tucson: Referring to Rule 8.4 (1) - Batter Runner reaching first base: The ...
      »OZ40: Key word in that sentence: "his touch of ONLY the bag in foul ...
      »k man: Another scenario, defensive player is pulled across white bag, not ...
      »OZ40: K man, in your different scenario the 1st baseman is clearly ...
      »Steve in Tucson: Thank you all for your comments. This helps so I can inform our ...
4 April 2, 2016 470

coaches touching a runner

» 1jonsey: had a runner round 3rd base and was held up by the base coach, as h ...
      »garyheifner: Very common for a 3rd base ump to high 5 a guy in his HR ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Pretty harsh (and probably incorrect) call on that one ... The intent ...
      »Joncon: """Obviously, ump used no common sense.""" Or he was unfamiliar ...
      »Nancy Allen: Gary, there is no guarantee that an umpire knows the rules, but a HR ...
      »B.J.: I agree with the point about the umpire using common sense...but that ...
5 April 2, 2016 768
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