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Where is the timing play rule?

» Larry S: Bases loaded. one out. Batter hits a fly to center that's caught. ...
      »B.J.: larry s .. in your scenario the run would score because the appeal ...
1 June 1, 2023 14

Is this a catch?

» TooOldToFight: Experienced an interesting scenario where I'm not certain of the ...
      »B.J.: TOTF .. I would have a no catch once the glove landed on the ground ...
      »Rob64: Detached equipment no catch ether scenario!
      »TooOldToFight: BJ and Rob64, thanks for the responses. I wasn't sure what the right ...
3 May 31, 2023 288

Senior force out question

» cw: Bases loaded, batter hits chop in front of plate. Pitcher fields, ...
      »DaveDowell: With the bases loaded when the ball is hit, the commitment line is ...
      »cw: Thanks Dave. Thought that was the case (i.e. makes sense). I am not ...
      »Turning2: CW - DD clearly answered your first question, force play at home as ...
3 May 27, 2023 506

50 Major Plus roster

» Casey39: Quick question for anyone that would know. I tried going through the ...
      »DaveDowell: Casey39 ... RULEBOOK PAGE 64 • "Major-Plus teams (ONLY) in the 40+ ...
      »Casey39: Thanks. I stopped at page 61.
      »DaveDowell: And you were soooooo close! ... I cheated: I'm the Rulebook Editor ...
3 May 18, 2023 300

Potential interference

» Full Count: After deliberations I think the call was correct but want to confirm. ...
      »B.J.: these type of calls are tough without seeing the actual play.. the ...
      »Full Count: Runner was about half way between second and third. Runner ...
      »FTP: Based on what you describe, I would think: Dead ball-Closest runner ...
      »FTP: Just read bases were loaded. Hitter to first advances other runners. ...
      »Full Count: This is what the umpire called. Once the umpire realized the runner ...
      »stick8: Although I’d have to see this play to make a definitive call but if ...
      »B.J.: if INT. is called on the runner it's a dead ball .. runner is out .. ...
7 May 18, 2023 380

Need rule interpretation--Senior co-ed Rec league

» bandylegs17: This is the text of the rule..Is it the batters choice, MAY walk at a ...
      »DaveDowell: bandylegs17 ... SSUSA does not have a separate Co-ed rules set except ...
      »bandylegs17: Dave, I posted the non SSUSA rule here to get interpretation from ...
      »B.J.: bandylegs.. I deal with many rec leagues of all different div's and ...
3 May 16, 2023 256

Courtesy Runner

» Yogi08: Can a runner on base refuse a courtesy runner?
      »DaveDowell: That's between your baserunner and your manager ... We "don't have a ...
      »DieselDan: Situations like this should have been handled at the beginning of the ...
      »Yogi08: Question isn't about the umpire. Does SSUSA have a rule that states ...
      »DaveDowell: Same answer: This issue is between the base runner (who apparently ...
      »DieselDan: "Sir, yes sir!"
      »stick8: Yogi08, short answer is yes a runner can refuse a courtesy runner. I ...
      »NYGNYY: We have it happen in every tournament where someone gets pissed off ...
      »DaveDowell: stick8 and NY˛ ... I'm not surprised about that in the slightest ... ...
      »Bruce M: Agree with Dave here. As an umpire, part of my job is to keep the ...
9 May 11, 2023 444

Here is one I have never seen.

» hairy mark: Runners on first and second with 0 outs. Batted ball hits runner on ...
      »Mason's Grandpa: 44. RUNNER HIT BY A FAIR BATTED BALL. A. While in Contact With the ...
      »Rob64: So playing a 5 man is a disadvantage in this situation if the runner ...
      »Turning2: Grandpa is correct as well as the umpire in the original post, ...
3 May 8, 2023 532

Batters Box Rule

» Advil Knight: Dave I have a question about the batters box... Batter starts in the ...
      »DieselDan: 7.3 • BATTING POSITION A. The batter must have at least some portion ...
      »NYGNYY: I agree with the rule however when there is no line where does it ...
      »B.J.: There is nothing in the rules that says a batter cannot switch sides ...
      »DCPete: Looks like someone must have been reading the Imaginary Rule Book; ...
      »Katzy63: I do that 98% of the time when the pitcher struggles to throw me a ...
5 April 24, 2023 656

Slap hit

» softballjunkie13: Hi, We had an umpire call an out on our player for slap hit. He said ...
      »DaveDowell: The Definition at §1.13 • CHOPPED BALL in the rule book is not the ...
      »Turning2: Umpire was wrong if she didn’t chop the ball down resulting in a high ...
      »softballjunkie13: Thanks the ball went to ss, it was an ugly swing reaching for short ...
      »B.J.: softballjunkie.. there is no rule that says a batter must break their ...
      »stick8: If you break your wrist guess what? You’re going to a hospital and ...
5 April 18, 2023 548

How would you call this one?

» stick8: Runner on first, one out. Batter hits a fly ball to left center. ...
      »B.J.: Stick.. Yes I would have the B/R out
      »B.J.: Stick, I know you like to sometimes word scenarios a certain way.. ...
      »DaveDowell: I agree with B.J. (in both of his posts) ... Here's a pretty easily ...
      »k man: Is that on appeal or an automatic umpire call?
      »DaveDowell: k man ... That's NOT an appeal call ... It's an automatic immediate ...
      »Turning2: to all - i agree with the call, batter/runner is out for passing ...
      »B.J.: T2.. there is no need for B/R to re-rouch 1st base and there is no ...
      »stick8: BJ you are correct in your assumption. This happened in a mens league ...
      »g joe: Game is over as soon as the winning run crosses the plate. As far as ...
      »B.J.: g joe ???
      »Webbie25: g joe is correct.
      »neck10: dave do you miss me???
      »DaveDowell: ...I didn't know I was supposed to be shooting at you, Ricky!
      »Webbie25: Come on, guys. g joe said the game is over as the winning run crosses ...
      »Nancy Allen: Neck10, well, you hid from me when I was in Michigan, but in your ...
      »neck10: what were you doing in michigan??????????
      »Nancy Allen: Rumor has it was directing a tournament. Butch was there too. You ...
17 April 7, 2023 1228

9. Make safety bag plays safer

» softball4b: I think this rules change misses the mark. I believe this creates ...
      »B.J.: i agree 100% .. and now the defense is being rewarded for making a ...
      »DirkPitt: Not sure I understand the logic on this one. This will cause a lot ...
      »Rob64: Logic? What about 1 and 1 count with an extra foul? Advantage to the ...
      »DieselDan: And with one umpire games, as long as the majority of umpires stay ...
      »Dbax: This passed 11-0??? What are they thinking?
      »JohnO28: I dont' understand how you guys think this isn't a safer option. If ...
      »B.J.: john028.. I have umpired senior ball for over 20yrs and I've seen ...
      »DirkPitt: The fact that ASA/USA has this rule is irrelevant. We are talking ...
      »Turning2: i have delayed responding to this rule change hoping that SSUSA would ...
      »nickname36: "EXACTLY" Play the game by the way it was intended, before you ...
      »yankeesfan12: I agree 100% with "nickname36"about the safety bag, plus never, ever ...
11 March 31, 2023 1382

Verbal Interference

» grayhitter59: Can someone look up in the rule books of senior softball and define ...
      »DieselDan: While waiting for a knowledgeable person to ...
      »grayhitter59: OK, so let be specific. ground ball in the infield, player sitting in ...
      »Rob64: Judgement call buy the umpire regardless of any rule which is always ...
      »B.J.: you wont find a specific rule to cover this ..I would not have verbal ...
      »BH44: My favorite was a guy up his team losing by one with a couple on with ...
      »B.J.: if it was the catcher or "definitly" someone from the opposing team ...
      »Nancy Allen: Well, I was always a noisy scorekeeper and catcher and was definitely ...
      »grayhitter59: I have been playing softball for a while now and have yelled boot as ...
      »Nancy Allen: Thank you for the rest of the story. I was having a really hard time ...
      »grayhitter59: ok, so what would you have said to that coach if you where the ...
      »Nancy Allen: Well, I obviously wasn't there, and I have zero idea what the person ...
      »B.J.: grayhitter.. a TD is not a UIC they do all the logistics and run the ...
      »grayhitter59: Nancy, thank you for your input. I am still not sure how it all came ...
      »grayhitter59: Just wondering when I was going to get an official rules ...
      »Turning2: gh59 -Definition below copied from SSUSA Rule Book 1.45 • ...
      »TimMcElroy: I suspect that this is the imp9rtant rules issue you wanted to talk ...
      »grayhitter59: Tim, thanks for chiming in. first let me say say this I am offended ...
      »Dbax: Tim, you beat me to it. It is definitely bush to yell boot.
      »Nancy Allen: Grayhitter59, just remember that putting anything on the message ...
      »grayhitter59: Nancy, Thank you for your comments, I just don't want to get caught ...
      »Dbax: “If you can stand the heat?” 😂😂😂
      »nickname36: "EXACTLY". Yell "BOOT" only after the guy has already missed it, ...
      »Webbie25: I haven't laughed so hard over a thread in a long time. Yelling ...
      »softball4b: I don't know if the boot thing really causes a miss, but I do know ...
      »Webbie25: Mike, you must have caught most of them, for sure......just sayin'
      »nickname36: Or you can say but not to loud nice catch "DR STRANGE GLOVE".. ...
      »Nancy Allen: Well, gentlemen, I won't say what my words always were, but if anyone ...
      »grayhitter59: Nancy and to all the others who chimed in, and see how absurd to even ...
      »Nancy Allen: Grayhitter59, my stupid joke has always been that they need a glove ...
      »Nancy Allen: Grayhitter59, I saw this play this morning and thought about this ...
      »grayhitter59: Nancy, I love it. reminds me of a play when I use to coach ...
      »Nancy Allen: Grayhitter59, is there pessimist baseball? The catcher should have ...
      »DCPete: Agree with Tim, this is a totally bush league move and if you aren't ...
      »grayhitter59: Dc, change your panties and catch the ball, I paly infield and have ...
34 March 27, 2023 1679

Cleats

» The Hog: Are metal cleats allowed in 40+
      »SSUSA Staff: NOPE (in SSUSA sanctioned events)
      »Turning2: Hog - As answered above by SSUSA Staff - no metal cleats - see below ...
2 March 21, 2023 200

Pitching rules

» RetiredDawgs: From the 2022-23 rules summary: Pitcher may take one step while ...
      »B.J.: E. The pivot foot must remain in contact with the pitcher's box until ...
1 March 16, 2023 486

Interference or Not

» Mike14: This happened to me catching a few years back so I'm curious as to ...
      »B.J.: no the batters box is not a safe zone.. the only safe zone would be a ...
      »DirkPitt: B.J. - here is one for you from this past weekend and is similar to ...
      »Hank Heffner: On a batted ball the defense has the right to make a play on the ...
      »B.J.: HH Is correct
      »B.J.: One thing I should’ve added is that the only time I might have ...
      »titanhd: Question: So it doesn't make a difference who made the initia ...
      »B.J.: correct the runner must give the fielder a clear path to make the ...
      »stick8: This is exactly like the infamous bunt by Cincinnati Reds outfielder ...
      »DieselDan: Thought about it yesterday, but here's the play stick8 mentioned. As ...
      »Bigtimer40: Mike....as the Umpire for our local Senior league, I had this exact ...
10 March 14, 2023 694

legal catch

» retired2013: Fielder has ground ball trapped against his body with his bare han ...
      »Donna McGuire: The fielder must hold the ball securely in his hand or glove to ...
      »DieselDan: If a player holds a ball against there body Donna, they are probably ...
      »Webbie25: Diesel Dan, you have now made the first argument for slow motion ...
      »Turning2: in the original post, an umpire uses the following sections of the ...
      »DieselDan: Well, there's a good chance the plate umpire would have a hard time ...
      »B.J.: and here I thought Donna gave a great answer as to what and how a ...
      »Donna McGuire: I thought so, too, B.J. Maybe I should have added this paragraph from ...
      »B.J.: Donna, I brought that up years ago that I wished SSUSA would change ...
8 Feb. 8, 2023 550

seeding games

» johnny23: Just wondering if there is any rule stating you must play in seeding ...
      »DaveDowell: Not in SSUSA sanctioned play. We rate teams as though every player is ...
      »wdodge22: Johnny23 As long as the player is on the SSUSA approved roster ...
      »johnny23: Ok - that being established -if you were on the roster - but- could ...
      »mck71: Johnny23 - USUALLY yes if said player has history with your team from ...
      »softball4b: I must be missing something. To avoid sandbagging or blocking out ...
      »HSquared: While this thread appears to address or focus on a player, can a ...
      »DaveDowell: H˛ ... Yes they may ... However, they will be deemed to lose their ...
      »HSquared: At the TOC, 65+ AA, team Electrifiers (TX), did not play in round ...
      »DaveDowell: H˛ ... The rule has a "tournament director's discretion" option (see ...
9 Feb. 5, 2023 1129

pitching screen placement

» Larry S: We have been using a pitching screen in our local league many years. ...
      »GMCinCOS: Larry - here is our current rule regarding net in front of ...
1 Feb. 4, 2023 369

rule 4.5 Americans with disability act rule

» Shidoshi: What kind of documentation is needed for this? Is there a ...
0 Feb. 2, 2023 238
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