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Carry Bat

» seniorsoftballnut: Question can you carry your bat with you to first base after you hit ...
      »lb16: If it is hit and sit rules it doesn't matter if you touch 1st with ...
      »r4pitch: Why would you want too.. Dont know the rule.Should be a out.Reid
      »B.J.: yes in SSUSA you can carry the bat all the way around all the bases ...
      »SOFTBALLNUTZ: seniorsoftballnut Hope you and yours are doing well. Haven't ...
      »Wayne 37: yes in SSUSA you can carry the bat all the way around all the bases ...
      »k man: I know there is no SSUSA rule for this but I knew I saw it somewhere. ...
6 Dec. 16, 2018 408

WALKOFF 4-Base Award

» SCUBA: With the game tied and men on base, if a 4-Base Award (Rule 8.4(7)) ...
      »B.J.: 1) yes all runners would score on a 4 base award 2) a ground rule ...
      »DaveDowell: SCUBA and B.J. ... A four-base award is treated like a home run under ...
      »B.J.: Dave, I'm not sure I understand the reasoning on why all the runs ...
      »DaveDowell: B.J. ... In the SSUSA Rulebook, the four-base-award is treated the ...
      »Wayne 37: To clarify: Runners are placed from their last legally obtained ...
      »B.J.: wayne.. there cannot be an award of bases assessed, as in a ground ...
      »DaveDowell: Wayne 37 ... No clarification required ... This is slow pitch ...
      »Wayne 37: Clarifying once more: I was referring to SSUSA only. Their rule ...
      »B.J.: wayne.. a "ground rule double" is called exactly that because of the ...
      »DaveDowell: And I'm guessing S. I. Hayakawa is turning over in his grave about ...
10 Dec. 14, 2018 617
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SSUSA NATIONAL RULES COMMITTEE 2018 ē Annual Meeting Minutes

» SSUSA Staff: The link below redirects to the Official Minutes of the 2018 SSUSA ...
      »SSUSA Staff: RULEBOOK AMENDMENTS 2018 ē Technical Language Changes The link ...
1 Dec. 6, 2018 1322

Pitching screen rules

» jfsully: Just a few clarification questions on pitching screen rules (esp ...
      »DaveDowell: jfsully ... There is no provision in the SSUSA Rulebook regarding the ...
      »jfsully: Thanks Dave, you are always great and quick to respond. I think FL ...
2 Dec. 6, 2018 173

rules question

» cop298: im a reading it wrong under ranking guidelines... a major plus player ...
      »DaveDowell: cop298 ... I presume you are talking about the Rules Committee's ...
      »BruceinGa: Bret, is your question in reference to me? :)
      »DaveDowell: Bruce ... I made the same initial mistake ... This "Q" is by COP298 ...
      »coop3636: Hey Bruce No that wasn't me, but according to the chart, you are ...
      »BruceinGa: Dave, wow, only the first two characters are alike! I too should ...
      »Gavin5: So Dave, in your rules example-- "A player on a 55-Major division ...
      »DaveDowell: Gavin5 ... A player may play down ONE equivalent rating level if he ...
7 Dec. 4, 2018 685

Major Plus Plus rule.

» Gorilla Boy: I did see a post on another social media site Dave and I wanted to ...
      »DaveDowell: Mike ... Click on the (currently) top message posted here for a link ...
      »Enviro-Vac: There are some rather interesting changes. Am I interpreting 13.1 ...
      »Gorilla Boy: Thanks Dave... Will do. Hoping you and Fran have a great holiday ...
      »DaveDowell: Enviro-Vac ... YES
      »neck10: why does major plus get all the attention why not 4 for major plus 3 ...
      »neck10: if a guy moves & still wants to play with his boy's but cant afford a ...
6 Dec. 4, 2018 788

You make the call

» HAT MAN: Just for knowledge wanted an answer on a play we had that didn't ...
      »azmike: well all runners need to touch the next base or it will be a dead ...
      »B.J.: hat man.. the rule says that the defense can make an appeal before ...
      »marcster13: First off any defensive player who leaves the ball in fair territory ...
      »HAT MAN: To be clear the rf played close enough to throw runner out if it was ...
      »Wayne 37: Actually this isn't an appeal play, so it doesn't matter what ...
      »stick8: Hat Man, since you stated all but 3 fielders went into the dugout, ...
      »B.J.: wayne is actually part right on the B/R not touching 1st base .. he ...
      »TimMcElroy: SSUSA RULE 8.3c (page 45) Batter-Runner is out when he fails to ...
      »Wayne 37: Why does the runner that was on 1B and that didn't go 2B need an ...
      »DaveDowell: Maybe, just MAYBE, the two teams involved came to a logical, quick ...
      »stick8: Dave you make a valid point. We had this discussion the other nignt ...
      »Benji4: COMMON SENSE. Damn what a novel concept. If we could just make a ...
      »chico senior: I agree with Dave and Benj4. COMMON SENSE! I hate the umpire that ...
      »stick8: Benji4, Amen to that!!
      »the car: this sounds like a major plus game with 7 runs so they have been ...
      »Bigboy97xp: I can't remember Dave ever saying ignore a rule in this case when the ...
      »DaveDowell: After re-reading what I posted, it still doesn't appear that I ...
      »Bigboy97xp: I just thought I would add my opinion as I have worked with you for ...
      »B.J.: Dave, now I'm confused.. ( Did he make the technically correct ...
      »B.J.: as for HAT MANS "stump the ump" OP.. after thinking on this and ...
      »stick8: Dave, Iím not so sure about that scenario. There are teams who have ...
      »Bigboy97xp: If it was the last play of the game and the umpires had left the ...
      »B.J.: stick8.. usually the C/R can be called out until a pitch to the next ...
      »stick8: Sounds about right to me BJ. I might add that when the ump calls ...
      »Wayne 37: stick8, What can't appeals be made after the umpire says ball ...
      »Wayne 37: Dave, I can see the original scenario happening in a senior game. ...
      »stick8: Wayne37 you bring up an interesting situation. Consider what I had ...
      »Wayne 37: stick8, I can say that is one of the worst calls I've ever heard. ...
28 Nov. 30, 2018 1087

BJ

» stick8: BJ, I only know the usssa rule. To answer your question: if the ump ...
      »Wayne 37: Stick8, When an umpire signals and verbalizes the act of ...
      »B.J.: lol.. I think we need to start 1 more new post on this wayne .. ...
      »The Screamer5: Just my 2 cents as a player and coach, but I always thought that when ...
      »Wayne 37: Here is the SSUSA rule that you so proudly states your case: ...
      »Wayne 37: The Screamer5, It is umpire jugdement of where the runner(s) are ...
      »Nancy Allen: I think that the response of "I've got nothing" is perfect from ...
      »mck71: Wayne: No disrespect but there isn't a Section 7. E in 2017-2018 ...
      »B.J.: wayne.. lmao.. you are really SPOT ON this time .. congratulations.. ...
      »B.J.: mck71.. on the 8.4 (10)A 1 .. this part of the rule would be used ...
      »TimMcElroy: How about you folks just agree to disagree and move on?
      »T.C.Sr.: Tim, This thread kind of reminds me of the old Abbot and Costello ...
      »mck71: TIM!!! Welcome back to the cold buddy? :-) BJ - Thx, had to go ...
      »DaveDowell: T.C.Sr. ... While it's a good analogy about Abbott & Costello, I was ...
      »B.J.: Tim.. just trying to get the correct ruling for those that ask... and ...
      »B.J.: Dave.. lol.. spoken like a true Californian .. but it's not legal yet ...
      »Wayne 37: Before BJ and Nancy pee themselves, I erroneously typed SSUSA instead ...
      »B.J.: wayne .. even though we always disagree with each other over ...
17 Nov. 20, 2018 434

BJ

» stick8: BJ, I only know the usssa rule. To answer your question: if the ump ...
      »Nancy Allen: stick8, I respectfully disagree. I will use an example of my ...
      »coop3636: Miss Nancy I have to add a few things. BJ,if obstruction is ...
      »Garocket: The ASA or USA softball now. The rule is you cannot ever be put out ...
      »Nancy Allen: Coop, I always like talking softball with you. In my scenario if he ...
      »B.J.: stick8.. you are correct in U-Trip on the OBS rule I haven't worked ...
      »B.J.: coop 3636.. I half agree with you.. yes the base award (if any) would ...
      »Nancy Allen: BJ, spot on as usual. I am sorry if I didn't pick the rules out that ...
      »B.J.: Garocket.. I'm going to have to half agree with you also.. you ...
      »B.J.: Nancy...lol .. I know my wife tells me she never makes mistakes all ...
      »Nancy Allen: BJ, so she potentially made one mistake? I do make mistakes, but I ...
      »stick8: BJ, the difference I see in ssusa and usssa is in ssusa the umpire ...
      »stick8: Nancy, what you describe is correct for ssusa. I was in usssa mode!!
      »B.J.: stick.. yes.. exactly.. there is no automatic award of 1 base in ...
      »Wayne 37: This is so simple to understand, but BJ and Nanny come along and mess ...
      »B.J.: wayne.. this is a SSUSA senior softball web site if you disagree with ...
15 Nov. 17, 2018 418

Obstruction

» azcard: BatterRunner hits ball to the fence, rounds first obstructed by the ...
      »B.J.: it's all the judgement of the umpire.. when OBS occurs the umpire ...
      »Wayne 37: azcard, By rule the runner is only protected to 2B. You said the ...
      »B.J.: wayne.. you stated .. By rule the runner is only protected to 2B. ...
      »lb16: B.J. - Is correct runner is always awarded base that would have been ...
      »Wayne 37: Let me break this down for you Mr. Fountain of Misinformation. ...
      »B.J.: wayne.. seriously.. please read a SSUSA softball rule book and quit ...
      »stick8: BJ, Im not so sure Wayne37 is incorrect in what he says. Consider a ...
      »B.J.: stick.. I know of no "minimum 1 base award" as he stated again only ...
      »Wayne 37: BJ, there is a lot you don't know. Let's take your scenario for ...
      »Wayne 37: I might like to add, minimum means in the very least a runner is ...
      »B.J.: wayne.. lol.. you are hilarious.. and what I do know is that you are ...
      »Wayne 37: Can I explain something without you throwing another hissy fit? I ...
      »B.J.: wayne.. PLEASE.. where is this fictitious rule that you keep ...
      »Nancy Allen: BJ, the only thing that I have ever seen you wrong about was that ...
14 Nov. 16, 2018 506

out of play

» grayhitter59: Ball is hit to the outfield, runner on first heads to 3rd base, ball ...
      »Spock: Ball is out of play, Advance 1 base.
      »DaveDowell: Manny ... Unless, of course, your stated fact pattern had him going ...
      »Nancy Allen: ...only on the appeal.
      »1bounce: 1plus 1 from the time the ball left the throwers hand. If he had not ...
      »B.J.: below is the rule for the above scenario 8.4(10) ē WHEN RUNNERS ...
      »grayhitter59: No Dave he did not go across the diamond, LMAO. (little ...
      »Wayne 37: grayhitter59, the easy way to remember is that all runners/batter ...
      »stick8: Grayhitter59, I have a dead ball, runners get 2 bases from the time ...
      »neck10: what if infieder threw the ball
      »neck10: what if he had passed second but was returning to second!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      »grayhitter59: I just don't understand why the defense is penalized, when the throw ...
      »Nancy Allen: grayhitter59, do you really believe that the runner intentionally let ...
      »grayhitter59: Nancy great point, the runner was ok, LOL. My point if these ...
      »stick8: Neck10, I believe itís still two bases from the time of the throw in ...
      »stick8: Grayhitter59, thats the widely held belief but strangely enough itís ...
      »mck71: If I am correct, the ONLY times that hitting a runner benefits the ...
      »B.J.: mck71 you are correct on the B/R running to 1st base unless he has ...
      »grayhitter59: I just don't understand why the defense is penalized, when the throw ...
      »Garciastars: grayhitter - obviously you don't understand why the defense would be ...
      »Wayne 37: BJ37 writes: mck71 you are correct on the B/R running to 1st base ...
      »grayhitter59: Graciastars, nothing to get over. these play did not happen to my ...
      »stick8: Grayhitter59, letís take your original play. Since you sometimes ...
      »grayhitter59: I see your point. stick8.
23 Nov. 15, 2018 624

What constitutes an unsafe bat

» BillC48: I umpire in a senior softball community league. We had an interesting ...
      »BillC48: Sorry guys... I meant SSUSA. My fingers didn't type what my mind was ...
      »B.J.: billc.. you are correct on the USA/ASA rule for unsafe bat.. SSUSA ...
      »neck10: why do some umpires ask you to put a piece of tape on the knob which ...
      »titanhd: Neck. ASA knob cuff must be taped. SSUSA has no such rule language.
4 Nov. 14, 2018 426

Errant Throw to 1B

» SCUBA: In league play, ground ball to shortstop, throw to 1B pulls first ...
      »stick8: Scuba, that would depend if the batter runner is avoiding a collision ...
      »DaveDowell: SCUBA ... We completely concur with stick8's analysis ... This is ...
      »Gavin5: Is it true that the batter-runner need only to step on the orange bag ...
      »SCUBA: I say, yes to Gavin5. His analysis makes sense to me. I can't see ...
      »B.J.: scuba.. first of all why did the B/R step on only the white ...
      »maurice: Could in be interpreted as the throw was so far off the bag that it ...
      »SCUBA: B.J., my scenario was hypothetical and assumes we are talking about ...
      »DaveDowell: Wayyyy back at the North end of this thread, stick8 accurately and ...
      »SCUBA: So, you're saying the answer to my question is OUT? May be true, but ...
      »B.J.: scuba.. as Dave said you keep "tweaking" the scenario.. if a bad ...
      »DaveDowell: SCUBA ... I didn't make a call, since your fact pattern lacked ...
      »stick8: Scuba this scenario happened to us in Las Vegas a little over a month ...
      »SCUBA: First of all, I'd like to thank stick8, B.J., DaveDowell and the ...
      »B.J.: scuba.. my ruling as an umpire and a UIC would be if the errant throw ...
      »stick8: Scuba Iím siding with BJ on the scenario he described. Conversely ...
15 Nov. 8, 2018 464

Excessive Speed Pitch

» baseballbill: Is it possible for a legal pitch (going between 6 and 12 feet), which ...
      »B.J.: I've never seen it done.. the excessive speed pitches I have called ...
      »jfsully: To add to the question : Is it possible to pitch under six feet and ...
      »doker: This has been a big bugaboo to me as i pitch!!! and i have too many ...
      »Nancy Allen: I have to agree with BJ on flat and fast usually go hand in hand. ...
      »B.J.: Nancy, I haven't worked u-trip in many years but isn't there arc 3 ...
      »Nancy Allen: BJ, their rule states 3' from the point of release, but here in the ...
      »17Black: playing in a new senior league in Cleveland that uses a pitching ...
      »jfsully: 17Black : Most of those screens are at least 74-76 inches tall(6'2" ...
      »Gavin5: Laws of physics seem to conclude that a given object (softball) ...
9 Nov. 7, 2018 593

Courtesy runner

» Swing14: Had a situation where a batter was walked and called for an courtesy ...
      »titanhd: OUT!
      »Swing14: I know what the call was. I'm looking for it in the rule book.
      »DaveDowell: Swing14 ... You won't find this specifically mentioned in the Rule ...
      »Duke: Look at rule 8.4(1) in the first sentence, says exactly what Dave has ...
      »Swing14: Dave, the batter actually did make it to first and touch the bag, but ...
      »DaveDowell: Swing14 ... The answer above is still technically valid as to timing ...
      »Dbax: With everyone wanting to speed up the game, this rule should be ...
      »yerwombat: Would the courtesy runner still be out if he stepped on the white ...
      »B.J.: the problem with the C/R rule is that many players and managers don't ...
      »garyheifner: Dbax is right. Why wait for the batter to get to 1st. Batter ...
      »stick8: In a house league it might be ok to do what garyheifner states. But ...
      »yerwombat: Damn BJ that is some cold S__t maybe you should change your moniker ...
      »breeze53: Why not just let the CRs come and go as they want. It is a stupid ...
      »Nancy Allen: breeze53, I respectively disagree on several counts. There needs to ...
      »Wayne 37: BJ37 writes, (((the problem with the C/R rule is that many players ...
      »B.J.: wayne.. AGAIN you are "spot on" .. if you would actually read the ...
      »Nancy Allen: BJ, we covered this in a previous discussion that this is automatic ...
      »B.J.: thx Nancy.. yes we did and I'm stopping here because I don't want to ...
      »The Screamer5: Lol. I love this message board. Its always entertaining. But ...
      »stick8: Had a strange one earlier this year. During the open inning a player ...
      »Wayne 37: Some food for thought........... Why would any umpire accept an ...
      »B.J.: wayne.. to answer your many questions.. wow.. wouldn't it would be ...
      »Nancy Allen: BJ, you are a gentleman and a professional, but maybe this time you ...
      »Wayne 37: BJ37, In reply to your answers: Could you please point to the ...
24 Nov. 5, 2018 1169

Runner reversing direction

» Randall: With bases loaded a ground ball is hit to third. The runner on third ...
      »DieselDan: I believe the runner can go back. It's no different than if the ...
      »TimMcElroy: In this scenario, the runner from 2nd is out once the defender (with ...
      »TimMcElroy: The wise defender will step on 3rd, then chase the runner from 3rd ...
      »BruceinGa: The wise runner on third would run to the commitment line and stop. ...
      »B.J.: the wise umpire .. (and no it's not a oxymoron) would get in position ...
      »Dem2: The force play is off for the runner heading home once the the 3rd ...
      »curveball: Sorry Dem, but all plays in SSUSA at home plate are force plays no ...
      »Randall: I agree with almost all of these discussions. My biggest point of ...
      »curveball: Yes he can go back. (see DieselDan post above. Improper order of tag ...
      »Nancy Allen: I agree with everything said on explanations. The force play at home ...
      »stick8: Randall, this may sound strange but in raw terms yes. Letís say bases ...
      »TimMcElroy: Nancy- I think this is what you're looking for: Rule 8.3 BATTER ...
      »Nancy Allen: Tim, thanks, that is the one that I was looking for.
      »Wayne 37: Randall, A batter-runner and a runner are two separate ...
14 Nov. 3, 2018 476

Batter-Runner Safe or Out?

» SCUBA: Having a little trouble interpreting SSUSA Rule 8.4(1). Bang-bang ...
      »coop3636: He is out As long as the 1st baseman is touching any part of the ...
      »B.J.: scuba .. coop is correct this is the SSUSA rule.. just to make sure ...
      »SCUBA: B.J., I'm just concerned with the SSUSA rule. So, do both you and ...
      »DaveDowell: SCUBA ... Two years ago at Rules Committee, there was an extensive ...
      »coop3636: Dave, Are you sick? That is twice this year that you have agreed ...
      »DaveDowell: coop3636 ... All is well here, but it IS a bit Twilight Zone-ish that ...
      »coop3636: cool first round is on me coop3636
7 Oct. 31, 2018 406

Purpose for allowing base runners to "run thru" or "over run" bases?

» Turbobob: Our local 70 plus league, self umpiring, is thinking of allowing base ...
      »Omar Khayyam: Hello Turbobob, Yes, our league which allows players of all ages ...
      »Turbobob: Omar, specific to #1, I was thinking of physically placing a flat ...
      »Wayne 37: Some leagues draw lines at 2nd and 3rd like the one used at home. We ...
      »Omar Khayyam: Turbobob, an interesting idea to use a plate. However, in practice, ...
      »k man: In our 60+ league, in order to have a runner for the batter from home ...
      »Omar Khayyam: Over the years, runners from home have started from 15 feet back, 10 ...
      »doker: OUR 65+ AND 55+ LEAGUES HERE IN Austin use the run thru rule and ...
      »doker: WE ALSO HAVE UNLIMITED RUNNERS(IF HAD NOT ALREADY RUN IN SAME INNING) ...
      »wintermutt: I play in a normal rule league (no run through second etc.) and a run ...
      »stick8: I, along with Oz40, used to play in an indoor league in tne winter ...
      »wintermutt: So when you are rounding the bases (say for a home run) you run the ...
      »stick8: Wintermutt on a home run itís hit and sit. Any other hit the answer ...
      »wintermutt: The only home runs I am aware of that are hit and sit would be over ...
      »stick8: Wintermutt a couple of things here 1) Iím on second no outs. Base ...
      »stick8: Wintermutt a couple of things here 1) Iím on second no outs. Base ...
      »wintermutt: In the over 60 league i have been playing in the runner is called out ...
      »wintermutt: C. Running through a base: If running through, runners MUST run wide ...
      »DaveDowell: wintermutt ... We're happy to have you commenting, but please be ...
      »B.J.: wintermutt.. as Dave explained your rule is for a local league.. ...
      »wintermutt: OK. Thank you for clarification. I will ask the league commissioner ...
      »stick8: Wintermutt as BJ and Dave state that sounds like your league rule and ...
      »garyheifner: I like it. The two times I have had a bad hamstring pull was running ...
22 Oct. 29, 2018 881

Stepping out of the front of the box?

» lowprofile: I have a big stride when I swing, I have been called out for stepping ...
      »BallPlayer35: lowprofile, I agree with you that this rule needs to go or adjust the ...
      »Bruster55: I agree get rid of the out of the box rule.Maybe it can be brought up ...
      »B.J.: lowprofile.. if any part of your foot when making contact with the ...
      »lowprofile: Ballplayer35 interesting interpretation of the box intended for ...
      »B.J.: lowprofile.. yes as long as some part of both feet are on the line of ...
      »k man: While you might not be happy with the front of the batters box, find ...
      »stever: Rather than changing the game, why don't you adjust your approach? ...
      »mad dog: tell me stever.....how about we let the pitcher throw any ...
      »bond_171513: Part of the problem is the inconsistency with the umpires. Those of ...
      »Wayne 37: Actually, if you have a whole foot out of the box when making contact ...
      »1jonsey: so are you saying that you see batters hits a softball with 1 foot in ...
      »stick8: 1jonsey itís not often but Iíve seen players hit with their front ...
      »1jonsey: stick8 really, wow, i've played and watched a lot of softball and ...
      »Wayne 37: I didn't say I've seen it in softball as I've very seldom umpired ...
      »lowprofile: Yo Stever, I was just inquiring about the front line as long as my ...
      »lowprofile: And just an FYI the one player who stepped clearly out of the ...
      »stick8: 1jonsey itís definitely rare but I have seen it. And it looks ugly. ...
      »OZ40: Stick falls out of bed hitting! The man is a machine! Phenomenal, ...
      »garyheifner: ALL the batter box lines should be eliminated. Most are gone by the ...
      »txnighttrain: The batter's box has plenty of room. Move back if you need more room ...
      »Nancy Allen: Gary, this is my opinion only, but I am inclined to agree with you. ...
      »lowprofile: Txnighttrain, you are correct in the aspect of the box being big ...
      »Nancy Allen: lowprofile, I always did the plate meetings for Coachie. I won't say ...
      »DCPete: The total size of the batters box is pretty irrelevant since only ...
      »Wayne 37: Just for clarifications sake, both feet must be completely in the ...
      »B.J.: wayne, the batter does not have to have the whole foot completely ...
      »SS11: DC Pete said - "Really can't understand why anyone wants to make a ...
      »Nancy Allen: SS11, the only time that I have ever seen someone run out of the ...
      »Wayne 37: BJ, The BATTER'S BOX is the 3-FOOT BY 7-FOOT AREA to which the ...
      »Garocket: As much as I hate to, I have to agree with Wayne 37. This time he is ...
      »DaveDowell: Wayne 37 and Garocket, we respectfully disagree ... Rule book ...
      »B.J.: Garocket.. you brought up ASA... and in ASA slow pitch the batter ...
      »TimMcElroy: Players don't know the actual rule, yet insist that umpires do a ...
      »B.J.: Tim... lol .. I agree ..
      »marcster13: I personally don't have a problem keeping my feet in the box because ...
      »marcster13: ^^Sorry 3x7^^
      »marcster13: One other thing I've been curious about is which came first. The ...
      »stick8: The question is after the second or third game of the day when the ...
      »DaveDowell: stick8 ... I've seen a number of remedies, but let's deal with the ...
      »bkb555: I watched some of the videos mentioned above and I saw guys with ...
      »lowprofile: I have to agree with bkb555 the videos you can watch on You Tube ...
      »Clutch14: Guys, the BLD boxes in Vegas (and everywhere else there is turf ...
      »mck71: Clutch, funny you should mention that. They added new turf fields in ...
      »DaveDowell: Clutch14 ... Your assertion that the BLD batter's boxes are ...
      »Nancy Allen: So all of this proves my point that this is what I call a "heart ...
      »DaveDowell: Nancy ... Please be cautious about imposing your personal disdain for ...
      »Garocket: Dave I read the batters box rule and it could be confused the way it ...
      »Nancy Allen: Dave, I agree with you, and you are always welcome to delete my ...
      »DaveDowell: Garocket ... Rulebook ß7.3 A defines clearly [emphasis added] what ...
      »stick8: None of the responses to my question are incorrect in and of ...
      »DaveDowell: stick8 ... I agree, and most times it simply comes down to an umpire ...
      »Wayne 37: garocket, Why do you have a problem agreeing with me? I know when ...
      »DaveDowell: Wayne 37 ... You have perfectly stated the USA Softball (formerly ...
      »B.J.: lol again he is spot on
      »stick8: Dave youíre correct about knowing it when you see it, thatís the main ...
      »Wayne 37: Dave, my mistake. I thought Clutch14 was saying the lines for ...
      »B.J.: wayne.. congratulations.. I'm glad to see you finally admitted that ...
      »Wayne 37: BJ, again you've lent nothing to the conversation, just your strange ...
      »DaveDowell: **THREAD CLOSED** due to [1] excessive pitch count, [2] cyclical ...
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My conclusions from 2 prior discussions, what are yours?

» HJ: I conclude that safety rule changes for senior players should be ...
      »garyheifner: 1. Agree totally. Just before dlb bags became quite standard, 1st ...
      »curveball: 1.agree 2. leave rule as it is, it works. 3. leave rule as it ...
      »Nancy Allen: 1. The only place that I do not see these are in church leagues. I ...
      »Gary19: Let me add one more rule to the discussion as well. Get rid of the ...
      »Omar Khayyam: Gary19, I know run limits per inning is an issue with you, but what ...
      »Gary19: Omar, fair enough. I was thinking it was about rules in general, but ...
      »HJ: I would like recreational players to become members here and tell ...
      »wintermutt: I dislike playing in different leagues with different rules. I like ...
      »SS11: Gary19- Run limits do multiple things: 1)Levels the playing fields. ...
      »DaveDowell: SS11 ... Gary19 is an "historical footnote" here, having had his ...
      »wintermutt: It is relevant to me anyway. Sorry I bothered you all.
      »DaveDowell: wintermutt ... No worries ... My earlier reply was poorly worded (at ...
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