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Boundries for 65+ teams?» Heavi: Must 65+ teams adhere to boundry as well as Mississippi (East/West) ...»DaveDowell: YES ... States and Bordering States, plus up to two (2) ... »QPG25: Dave how can we add our " out-of-region" players ? When I go to my ... »DaveDowell: I don't know the "mechanics" of how it might be done in the SSUSA ... »Heavi: THNAKS! |
4 | Jan. 26, 2022 | 224 |
Same age, different divisions...» D.Litch: I've been a party to lots of situations involving guys playing down ...»DaveDowell: Somebody is making up a rule on you if they told you that is allowed ... »D.Litch: Thank you Dave... I was scratching my head about that too. »DG-A: Is it possible to play at the same level in an older age group ... »DaveDowell: YES ... You may play across age lines if otherwise eligible as to age ... »stick8: Can a player who plays 60 major plus also play 50 triple A? (asking ... »HSquared: When looking at the Ratings Table, it would suggest yes, even though ... »DaveDowell: Yes, stick8, that's allowable in theory ... Both have a rating index ... »MurrayW: So if a "friend" plays 65, 60, and 55 all on Major Plus teams, is his ... »T-mon: Murray would love to meet your "friend", he must be your twin who ... »stick8: I will definitely tell him that! »edcampbell3: Last year 2 of my Teammates and I, played 50 AAA. We are no longer on ... »DaveDowell: Multiple issues, Ed, neither of which is very complicated ... [1] ... »edcampbell3: Thank you Dave »lowprofile: So Dave, Just curious with Ed's description and the releases being ... »DaveDowell: lowprofile ... Yes, each division (other than Major+, of course) may ... |
15 | Jan. 17, 2022 | 1122 |
Covid residence rule» QPG25: Will SSUSA still be allowing two non resident players on a team? ...»DaveDowell: YES |
1 | Jan. 16, 2022 | 126 |
WHY ARE THESE OFFENSES CALLED DIFFERENTLY» B.J.: I had this come up at my umpire clinic last month and I couldn't give ...»DCPete: Rule 8.3C might make sense if there were 2 Outs at the time but ... »stick8: Good points DCPete. Like BJ asked I would have similar questions. I’d ... »TimMcElroy: I don't think it is unreasonable to expect a batter to run 70 feet ... »B.J.: Tim, thx for answering.. I 100% agree with you.. but as you know it ... »rmp0012002: The way I see it is the B/R didn’t finish his at-bat by touching ... »B.J.: rmp.. that is not what rule 8.3 C says »DCPete: Tim et al; pretty inconsistent ruling at best since both the Batter & ... »stick8: Take BJ’s scenario a step further. After the rule was applied and the ... »curty: Guys- 2 different scenarios: the runner on second MIGHT not have to ... »B.J.: curty.. the original scenario was very specific bases are loaded so ... »curty: BJ-- simply for understanding purposes: in your scenario, ball ... »B.J.: curty.. yes the COMPLETELY different scenario you just gave is 100% ... »curty: AAH BJ- this scenario CAN happen in your case-- if no runner except ... »B.J.: curty .. a scenario is written to get a answer on a specific play .. ... »DCPete: And they also haven't addressed why the Batter that doesn't run to ... »TimMcElroy: B.J. - I will look into this a bit further with some other folks ... »B.J.: Tim, I fully understand and thx.. |
17 | Jan. 13, 2022 | 837 |
roster eligibility» cheesehead1: As per the discussions entered by the SSUSA staff in response to my ...»DaveDowell: cheesehead1 • We also made it perfectly clear that the actions AND ... »cheesehead1: Geez.sorry that people are taking what was a post to discuss the new ... »DaveDowell: cheesehead1 • Let's take another more simplistic cut at this since ... »cheesehead1: Dave, now we're getting somewhere. My only purpose has been to ... »DaveDowell: No worries cheesehead1 ... This is a lot like a ball game: ... »cheesehead1: Dave, one more question concerning the new region/state rule that I ... »DaveDowell: Fair question ... Here's the "deal" in that context, along with one ... »cheesehead1: Wow, Dave, . You're making this conversation much easier to ... »DaveDowell: Both of your assumptions are accurate ... Glad to be able to help ... ... »cheesehead1: Dave, I'd like to make a comment on the removal of Hawaii from the ... »DaveDowell: Thanks cheesehead1 ... I appreciate and respect your perspective, but ... »Fabe: Mahalo for bringing to light some of the challenges we experience ... »cheesehead1: Mahalo Dave for your quick response and on New Year to boot. Just ... |
13 | Jan. 1, 2022 | 1529 |
11 defensive players 65+» k man: If I am reading it correctly, a vote (#14) passed 12-0 yesterday ...»SSUSA Staff: The upcoming T.O.C. is a 2021 Season event and, as such, is played ... »k man: Thanks for the quick response! Just wanted to be sure. »NYGNYY: Was this ever on the annual meeting agenda in the past and voted ... »SSUSA Staff: NYGNYY ... The issue of allowing an 11th defensive player for the ... »FOFO: This is a terrible idea IMO. Think it’s a knee jerk reaction to ... »Rich99: It looks like it has been discussed with very little support over the ... »Dbax: Fofo is correct. This is all about Timberworks. »Carterjam: This is a terrible rule change. My question is why? After not ... »SSUSA Staff: The change was simply all about consistency and conformance with the ... »NYGNYY: With this logic of consistency why not test it for a season at the AA ... »MC8: This 11 man rule just doesn’t make any sense. This is a big change. A ... »k man: Not sure where I had heard the following in the past, but the basic ... »IDon'tKnow 3rdBase: I believe the problem of inequality occurs when a 70 team plays a 65 ... »k man: IDK, I think you are confusing teams with same rating and teams of ... »breeze53: Using the same thought process that SSUSA used when Timberworks were ... »TimMcElroy: Speaking for myself here- I reached out to a number of 65s managers ... »neck10: About time now you can play by same rules in all divisions. »NYGNYY: Tim. Thanks for your comments and homework you did prior to the ... »neck10: Thanks a lot Tim I thought all along (which I totally agree with) it ... »softball4b: Change of Direction - This change will further go to protect the ... »Dbax: Mike, played this weekend with the middle infielder. It had ... »softball4b: DC you make my point for me, Royse made the plays because he is good ... »gpump: IMO, rather you are for or against it, this particular rule change ... »NEW TEAM: GREAT RULE CHANGE will help when you play 70 major teams »Jimmy.p: I am amazed at a 12 to zip vote,you must have been chewing on the ... »JB Bronson: 11 players on defense is a terrible rule change. There are so many ... »neck10: I'm glad to see the middle infielder,if we only have 11 guy's going ... »NYGNYY: How does playing 11 extend a players career? Maybe I’m missing ... »TimMcElroy: As explained to me by a couple of managers, guys are more likely to ... »bkb555: I am not close to playing 65s yet but an extra fielder may actually ... »TAT22: I think a lot of players are misunderstanding the new rule. Your team ... »mck71: So I have been playing for a LONG time as most of you have been, what ... »AKA: Southpaw: I personally like having a middle infielder if he is competent in ... »Shortstop 13: I couldn’t be more against this new rule. It seems to me that if a ... »Nancy Allen: In I believe 2017 (Dave could better tell you from the agenda) I ... »softball4b: I could talk about people who post anonymously, rumors and innuendos, ... »FOFO: I agree with you 100% Mike. Why do people post ... »pizzaboy: Personally I think we should use 11 men in all divisions of senior ... »Montanapnc: My experience as a left handed relatively fast outfielder on a 65 ... »maskedman: love it! should have been done long ago. hope it comes to 60s soon. ... »neck10: I wonder if it was a big a deal when we went to four man ... »OZ40: When you play the teams you see all the time and if you really know ... »jca: Who cares. More get to play the field. Maybe just a little less a ... »NYGNYY: JCA. I care -getting to sit an inning a game helps when you get to ... »Nancy Allen: Neck10, I don't remember that but am so much younger than you. I ... »neck10: Nancy that was way back when u couuld keep the gate ... »Uncle Mike: If you are a good hitter and there are 3 guys on 1 side of 2nd base- ... »DieselDan: Uncle Mike. Bingo! (But, some players refuse to change their ... »NYGNYY: Merry Christmas So based on the feedback above the rule change is ... »stick8: Rickey I vaguely remember those days. You might know better than I ... »DaveDowell: NY² ... Change is inevitable ... This unanimous 12-0 vote was simply, ... »NYGNYY: D2. Finally I hear from you and I appreciate the update. Merry ... »Fabe: Such a blessing to witness healthy debate n different perspectives ... »Corn: My alignment favors the 11th fielder. Another component of the ... »DaveDowell: Corn ... You're not out there in the Twilight Zone at all! ... If you ... »Corn: Wow—I’m 64 and Howdy Doody was pretty much passé in my time as a ... |
56 | Jan. 1, 2022 | 4102 |
Interference or Obstruction or no call» BillC48: This happened at a local rec league game and I need the assistance of ...»Turning2: Tough one here to call without seeing the play unfold. I initially ... »B.J.: BillC... hmmm did you happen to attend my umpire clinic in The ... »BillC48: HI BJ & Turning2- Thank you both for your responses. An no, I was not ... |
3 | Dec. 14, 2021 | 300 |
Coin flips» stattad: A rule suggestion I made a few years ago gets defeated every year. ...»DaveDowell: Hi Tad ... Your exact favored procedure wasn't actually considered ... »Junior2412: Tad, I was thinking of something similar but a little different. The ... »stattad: Well, I always advocated for a coin flip in the championship game ... »TimMcElroy: I voted against the coin flip in championship games for a few ... »DaveDowell: And the most common "gets it wrong" is from the umpire who, after ... »grayhitter59: Ok, here goes nothing. I think the seeding you earned should ... »TimMcElroy: Who is the "higher seed" in Round Robin divisions? Who is the ... »DaveDowell: Final thoughts from me on this one ... Manny ... Which is more ... »stick8: When I ump men’s ball the winner of the winners bracket automatically ... »rmp0012002: I think coin flips should only be used in the pool play games since ... »The Screamer5: Just my opinion but I believe having the "hammer" is such a BIG ... »Doak: Hello I am a player on the Timberworks 70 Major plus team and take ... »Mango: Doak….shhhhhh! Don’t let this out. Actually I agree with you that in ... »DaveDowell: Doak and Mango ... You both have done a nice job in proving the ... »tnacty: Late to the game cuz I don't spend a lot of time here. Dave apologies ... |
15 | Dec. 14, 2021 | 967 |
Runner Interference and Dead Bal» IDon'tKnow 3rdBase: This happened at the Phoenix Winternationals this month. Runners on ...»B.J.: once INT. is called it becomes a dead ball and the runner is called ... »DCPete: ??? Why would the Umpire wait until After the play was over to call ... »B.J.: DC.. umpire error... yes, time should be called immediately »stick8: What happened at second that resulted in the umpire calling ... »IDon'tKnow 3rdBase: Sorry for the late response Stick. The umpire felt the runner going ... »gpump: We had a similar issue in a game we played in Phoenix, however the ... »stick8: Ok that’s fine, But the post from and BJ & DC Pete raises a good ... »Turning2: IDK3Base - BJ, DCP, and S8 have all responded with correct ruling for ... |
8 | Dec. 8, 2021 | 596 |
watch this umpires out call» B.J.: I'm going to start teaching this out call mechanic at my umpire ... |
0 | Dec. 7, 2021 | 245 |
Baserunner hit by batted ball» SarasotaShep: Runner on 1B, no outs. Batted ball hits the runner in fair territory, ...»SSUSA Staff: If the baserunner never left the bag, he is SAFE. Whether or not it ... |
1 | Dec. 3, 2021 | 315 |
PRIORITY: 2021 SSUSA NATIONAL RULES COMMITTEE MEETINGS • Official Minutes» SSUSA Staff: The link below redirects to the Official Minutes of the 2021 SSUS ... |
0 | Dec. 2, 2021 | 1292 |
Happy Thanksgiving to SSUSA players, families, friends» Turning2: Hope all have a safe and bountiful Thanksgiving and share with others ...»GI: Just wanted to pass on my thankfulness at being able to still play a ... |
1 | Nov. 25, 2021 | 186 |
Stepping out of the box to avoid being quick-pitched» jgoff5113: To avoid being quick-pitched after the first pitch has been thrown, ...»DaveDowell: It's a "play ball" situation unless/until you ask for, AND ARE ... »B.J.: jgoff.. as stated by Dave this is a live ball situation… if You know ... »jgoff5113: Thanks Dave and BJ. So it sounds like if a batter steps out without ... »DaveDowell: jgoff5113 ... I like B.J.'s suggestion a lot of asking for time on ... »jgoff5113: Thanks Dave! Just one more thing I’ll add: I sometimes step out ... »stick8: This has always been a stickler of an issue with players. When I ... »DieselDan: Would the Nomar Garciaparra routine be acceptable Stick8? »stick8: Sure, he didn’t take nearly as long as Hargrove did. There’s a good ... »Guppy7325: I will say this, pitchers are creatures of habit.. if you the first ... »MurrayW: It also goes the other way. After all, this is slow pitch softball. ... »stick8: Ever notice on the rare occasion when someone swings and misses the ... »Kimbo Chino: GENTLEMEN, QUICK PITCH IS NOT ALLOWED. here is the rules from the ... »Turning2: KC - Good job in referencing both the definition and applicable rule ... »hackman: A couple things from the rule book: 1.56 • QUICK PITCH A pitch made ... »stick8: T2, if you’re referring to my post once again your a bit mistaken. ... »Turning2: Stick8 - yes my post was in reference to your post. No, I was not ... »B.J.: T2.. some quick pitches can be called illegal.. for example say a ... »stick8: T2, I’m sorry but you are quite mistaken. Please process this if you ... »stick8: BJ, “presenting the ball” was from a now deceased old school UIC I ... »TimMcElroy: Welcome to the off season, where a simple question results in 34 ... »mck71: Come on Tim, was only 21 with your reply (22 with mine :-) Happy ... »Turning2: stick8 - the biggest problem with these discussions come as a result ... »Dbax: But I’m not here to argue. »B.J.: It’s time to close this thread |
24 | Nov. 22, 2021 | 1040 |
Re-entry» k man: I managed our team in Ft. Myers and an incident happened with my team ...»k man: BTW, I think I found it in the rules. Page 27 user Substitutes ... |
1 | Nov. 19, 2021 | 451 |
New rules» nails: Is their a list of the new rules being voted on this month? I’ve ...»SSUSA Staff: The preliminary Rules Committee topics that may be considered for ... »nails: And iam told new rules e effective for 2022 season. Thanks »SSUSA Staff: SSUSA considers rules changes ONE TIME PER YEAR, during the National ... |
3 | Nov. 13, 2021 | 597 |
Tag/No tag play -- does the tagged run count?» jgoff5113: Scenario: Runners on 1st and 3rd with 1 out. Batter hits a fly ball ...»Duckman: Run counts. Runner not tagging up is a Timed Out with the 3rd out ... »DaveDowell: Duckman is correct ... Run counts on this "timing play" ... Many ... »jgoff5113: Thanks Dave and Duckman! That's exactly what I wanted to understand: ... |
3 | Nov. 5, 2021 | 363 |
Runner struck by batted ball while on base in fair territory» warren60: If a batted ball strikes a runner while he is still on hois starting ...»stick8: The runner is not out. If the closest fielder is behind the runner ... »B.J.: I agree with stick... but it doesn't matter whether a batted ball ... »coop3636: Hey Guys If a runner is ON the base and is hit by the ball, it is a ... »stick8: BJ, that’s correct. It can pass thru a fielder without contacting ... »AJC: Whats the call if the ball is hit low and the runner jumps straight ... »DaveDowell: The base runner loses the protection and presumption of being "safe" ... »DirkPitt: One more comment to BJ's post. Assuming there was a fielder "in ... »spider9188: If a baserunner is hit by a fair batted ball while standing on a ... »stick8: Spider9188, it depends where the closest fielder is. If the closest ... »DaveDowell: spider9188 ... You are incorrect ... You have accurately stated the ... »warren60: Thanks all. I now understand the rule. |
11 | Nov. 4, 2021 | 946 |
Yet another you make the call» stick8: SSUSA world tournament game. Fourth inning. Team A has 10 players on ...»msw4indy: I would ask if when they caught the 11th player, was he batting the ... »Donna McGuire: Two key points here: 1) Because the 11th spot in the lineup does ... »B.J.: Donna.. great points.. and whatever happened in the previous innings ... »stick8: BJ and Donna, both excellent points. This was in 60 major and I was ... »rmp0012002: The opposing scorekeeper should have caught the extra batter. What ... »stick8: Agreed about catching it rmp. How the opposing scorekeeper didn’t ... »Turning2: I'm not very well versed on the subject of this post but have ... »B.J.: T2…. I don’t necessarily disagree with you about a possible forfeit ... »stick8: T2, I can understand how a team would want a forfeit in the stated ... »Turning2: IF, and that’s quite a large two letter word, I were umpiring I would ... »Donna McGuire: T2, you ask how to know what to call. Maybe these actual SSUSA game ... »Turning2: DM - situation #1 you are referring to sounds like the opposing team ... »B.J.: T2.. once again you are making a statement against the offending ... »TimMcElroy: I think that Donna did a good job of explaining this situation and ... »Turning2: BJ - When you say i have once again made a statement against the ... »Fuzz: Donna's explanation seems a logical application of the ... »Turning2: Fuzz - Everyone likes to talk about "spirit/intent" of a rule, ... »stick8: T2, why would you ask a manager if he or she complied with the ... »Donna McGuire: T2, you assumed the Situation 1 stated above was the game you ... »Turning2: Stick8 - OK, during the discord between the two coaches or managers ... »Fuzz: T2 -- Please list and state the rule which says this situation will ... »mck71: I witnessed this as well and agree with how it was handled. Could ... »stick8: T2, why the argumentative tone in your posts? You stated that you ... »Turning2: Stick8 - give me the location in the rule book where you find the ... »stick8: T2, I have a better idea. Please cite your interpretation of rule ... »Turning2: Stick8 - that’s what I’m trying to do, just need your input on the ... »stick8: T2, why all of a sudden do you need input on ghost and phantom? ... »DaveDowell: Come on, stick8 ... It's all about ghosts and phantoms on Halloween ... »stick8: lol. That’s true Dave. They’re out in droves!! |
29 | Oct. 30, 2021 | 1263 |
You make the call - please» DCPete: This happened in a Rec League game: Rule 7.6.E says Batter is Out if ...»B.J.: dcpete.. in the past this issue has come up because MANY hitters do ... »Turning2: DCPete - Your post stated that the batter checked his swing, which an ... »DaveDowell: I was going to "sit this one out", but if the facts as presented by ... »B.J.: T2 & DD.. DD as you know I'm a stickler for how a rule is written, I ... »DaveDowell: B.J. ... Language clean-up is always a desired goal ... But unless ... »DCPete: Kind of agree with BJ regarding fixing the exact wording of this rule ... »B.J.: DCPete.. "EXCELLENT POINT" ... to any reasonably intelligent person) ... »Turning2: So the scenario below happens often in Senior softball: Batter takes ... »B.J.: T2…. Using the “OP” and his judgment of the play he wrote…. A ... »Turning2: BJ I'm not on here to argue, but i will emphasize two sentences and ... »B.J.: T2.. I don't consider discussing a rule as arguing.. were good.. but ... »Turning2: BJ The positioning of the word deliberately in the sentence doesn't ... »B.J.: T2.. you just stated above that he stopped his swing .. so that takes ... »DCPete: Personally didn't care if the batter should be safe or out in this ... »Turning2: BJ & DCPete - there is an old saying, “there’s only two ways to argue ... »B.J.: T2... lmao... that's hilarious adding DD in with you on you both ... »Webbie25: Interesting discussion. I believe the batter is out and here is why. ... »Turning2: BJ - I didn't ask DD to agree with me. He posted above in response ... »DCPete: Agree in principle with Webbie & T2 that a check swing should never ... »jimperry19: Webbie, I have always enjoyed your posts on this board and I have ... »Turning2: jimperry19 - not really sure who you are or why you commented? Do ... »Webbie25: Well, excuse me, Mr. Jim Perry. I was commenting on the original ... »txnighttrain: The key word in the rule is "deliberately". It is an umpire judgement ... »Turning2: txnighttrain - I'm sure there are a lot of folks on here struggling ... |
24 | Oct. 25, 2021 | 1079 |
