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pitching rules» Matt43: I to have been pitching for over 30 years and never took one in the ...»Omar Khayyam: Hello Matt43, I too have been pitching for a long time (my 62nd ... »taits: I notice many guys wearing a full set of catchers gear. Trouble with ... »BruceinGa: " Trouble with it is time it takes to put on and take off." Another ... »taits: You are absolutely correct Bruce. That's the up side but the ... »modi: everybody keeps complaining or arguing the same thing over and over ... »Vance+50: I'm not a pitcher, have great respect for the guys that will stand ... »modi: Vance, sorry if i misled you in my post, my response is not intended ... »mad dog: modi.....you are kicking a dead horse.....i have been suggesting ... »Omar Khayyam: mad dog, keep pushing. Played in a tournament recently where your ... »modi: We here in penna. have been using that ball for over 5 years, in fact ... |
10 | March 6, 2014 | 571 |
2 Rules that are somewhat unclear» PJ3P: 5.5(3) • MERCY RULE FOR 50+ THRU 70+ MAJOR-PLUS (ONLY) If a team is ...»TimMcElroy: Item 1- The home team always has a chance to catch up, and (using ... »SSUSA Staff: 5.5(3) • MERCY RULE FOR 50+ THRU 70+ MAJOR-PLUS (ONLY) The ... »mad dog: staff...then essentially you are stopping the game early....why ... |
3 | March 5, 2014 | 287 |
where are all the pitchers» wyo22: After reading the newest copy of the Senior News I am astonished at ...»Mark 44: I really dislike the face mask rule. I've been pitching for 25 years ... »JBTexas : wyo22, you're 30 days late to the party, we've been complaining since ... »AcePV: Probably not what people want to hear, but until you see someone ... »Pricer: I believe the more equipment the pitcher wears, the more hitters feel ... »Capt Kirk: Our pitcher(s) will be wearing a mask at TOC (I am assuming that a ... »Caveman: I'm with AcePV, I wear a helmet and wire mask, wire mask is much ... »Olden Slow: Here in Prescott..Almost all the pitchers are moving down at least 1 ... »southernson: wyo22, I hate the mask and it's got problems of it's own. 1) ... »DOLFAN: If only some of you Pitchers realized that some Idiots are Shaving ... »joel 1975: just like a seat belt the screens the answer then hit the middle all ... »Caveman: Southerson, I've pitched 40+ years and have never seen anyone hit in ... »southernson: Caveman, I understand your point, it's well taken and respected. ... »Caveman: Southerson, I still agree that it should be an option and I think ... »titanhd: On a similar subject. Major League baseball is looking to implement ... »wyo22: Thanks to all who commented. Sorry I was not involved in all the ... »Mr. Manassas: I have been pitching since the 1980s and I have seen some serious ... »Airbosn: In Oct 2012 was hit in the head, spent the evening in sickbay ... »cyborg45: Southernson, Great take off on the cable vs, dish commercial. Very ... »wyo22: Hey Southerson. I agree with cyborg45, a great post using the ... »Mark 44: Capt Kirk - the TOC in Florida, is last years teams & subsequently ... »SS13: It's funny how most of the head hunters in this game are guys who ... »ACC: Someone please check my assumptions: ======= Major League ... »cyborg45: A well hit softball will be in excess of 90 mph. More like 100- 102 ... »garyheifner: Real simple guys. I wear the helmet, mask, cup and shin guards. Can ... »Skeptical: ACC, the flaw in your logic is that when an MLB pitcher is done with ... »Donnie C: I do not like the rule at all should be a matter of choice. ... »j33: I am reposting what I've said many times. Also maybe they should go ... »SSUSA Staff: Batter's Box enforcement is an "area of emphasis" for umpires this ... »coop3636: I want to make a few statements to this new rule. I have been ... »coop3636: Forgot one last point: As J33 said: GET RID OF THE RUBBERS. They ... »The yooper: Coop3636 I agree with the getting rid of the rubber, no real need for ... »Skeptical: Having pitched for many years, and maybe I am the exception, I have ... »Ceres: I wear a titanium mask when I pitch. It's lightweight, comfortable ... »The yooper: Skeptical, you are either lucky or I am unlucky. I still say the ... »Skeptical: yooper, maybe I am but I have honestly never had an incident with the ... »hurler: pricer thats not true if you hit the ball hard you stay away from ... »garyheifner: If you remove the rubber-I have seen at a number of fields small plug ... »AcePV: I agree with the idea of removing the pitching rubber for safety ... »Webbie25: I started writing letters to ASA and USSSA 25 years ago about doing ... »Skeptical: Webbie25, they will never start listening. Too many parks, too many ... »coop3636: Hey Skeptical, If you ask 100 pitchers (that pitch all the time in ... »Webbie25: Skeptical-I have seen 3 and they were all serious shots with the ... »Fleck14: *Batters Boxes Do Matter* I think they are key to pitcher safety. ... »Skeptical: coop, then call me lucky, I guess. :) And I have been hit, twice. ... »wyo22: Wow. We have gone from mandatory masks for pitchers to pitching ... »Skeptical: People will tend to gladly take as much as others are willing to ... »southernson: Guys, The rubbers aren't going anywhere, we only rent, not own those ... »Skeptical: "seeing balls hit the rubber is a very common occurrence" Again, ... »Mr. Manassas: I have been hit off of a deflection from the rubber...Broke my ... »meatball: Moved to Phoenix in Fall 2009, wife and I went to a Siefman tourney ... »Pricer: Huler, it's ok to disagree. But I'll stick to my comment made earlier ... »Skeptical: Pricer, if the batters you are referring to were really some kind of ... »The yooper: Mr.Manassas: I have also played with the 10 foot circle allowing the ... »txnighttrain: A person with good bat control does not have to hit at the pitcher to ... »garyheifner: For the what it is worth discussion: The way I now deal with the ... »southernson: garyheifner, Likee the 45 degree approach...agree. »Pricer: Skeptical, it's a mind set. Anyone who feels like the pitcher or ... »jsheeran: Agree with Pricer and txnighttrain. »DOLFAN: STAFF..I walk the box when I hit. Sometimes my left foot will land on ... »SSUSA Staff: @DOLFAN - "Lines are in" ... In the unlikely event an umpire at an ... »DOLFAN: Staff....Thanks you for the quick reply. »INHOC2: Re: pitcher's equipment, I can only say this: I pitched for years ... »SS13: Maybe when the pitcher gets drilled the batter should pitch the next ... »The yooper: DOLFAN: I also like to walk the box as it allows me to have more ... »AcePV: INHOC2: I agree with you completely, except I started wearing a ... »Tim Millette: My pitching experience is limited to right around when composited ... »Tim Millette: SSUSA STAFF... One problem with your post about turf fields batters ... »joel 1975: bet you never pitched from behind the screen,some guys have troubles ... »joel 1975: I know guys who can pitch from second base not much chance of them ... »neck10: yooper who cares if your out of the box the defence has 10 guys dont ... »The yooper: Rik, 10 defnders sometime do not help, look at my elders team in TC ... »j33: Nobody cares if you walk the box. I love pitching to box walkers, ... »neck10: don you pick yours i picked mine!!!!!!!!!!!!! »neck10: and dont forget better lookin,I have & can pitch from second base ... »neck10: yooper how many guys got hit in our leauge last year.the bats make a ... »The yooper: Rik: Not that many got hit at all, the bats do make a big ... »DOLFAN: @ Yooper, It also gets my timing right so I can Mash!! @ Neck10, ... »The yooper: DOLFAN: I agree it also gets my timing right and allows me to also ... »Joyce Montoya: I'm a pitcher for women's team. Yes tried new mask and found it ... »neck10: I pitch because I make out the line up dolfan i never said I could ... »joel 1975: hurler you are right most guys who hit the ball hard stay away from ... »The yooper: Rik, you are right easy to hit a large ball coming at you 4-5 mph. ... »joel 1975: yooper you know that neck10 could take you out ant time he wanted ,I ... »neck10: you want see me hit pitcher because that means I have to come in and ... »The yooper: Joel, yes I know he can hit it very hard anywhere he wants to hit it. ... »hurler: it must be nice using the screen our leauge also has different skill ... »neck10: yooper we played some teams with the wood bats ,I brought my ... »neck10: ssusa staff as long as the guy doesnt step closer to the pitcher what ... »The yooper: Rik, that goes to show you that the big guys can hit the ball hard ... »JDub: Senior Softball (SSUSA) has Mandated Pitchers must wear a Mask. I ... |
90 | Feb. 23, 2014 | 2848 |
Runner Hit by Batted Ball» Paul P: We all know the standard rule, the ball passing an infielder, ...»BoiseBat: Depending on where the third baseman is playing. In our/normal ... »VINNY LV: depending if runner is in fair territory also.. if foot is on base ... »Paul P: Thanks for the input, both answers raise interesting possibilities. ... »Garocket: Thta is correct. Now lets throw one more out there Runner on ... »stick8: Paul P, USSSA rules are where the spot of the ball is when it hits ... »Duke: If the runner is hit with a fair batted ball while touching a base, ... »Omar Khayyam: Ouch! All these scenarios of a runner on third getting hit by a ... »Mulewhipper: ANYTIME a batter is hit with a batted ball in fair play, there is an ... »Mulewhipper: Check that last post...ANYTIME a "Base runner" is hit with a batted ... »SSUSA Staff: Mulewhipper ... ANYTIME does NOT include the circumstance of the base ... »Mulewhipper: Staff: are the rules for softball different than standard baseball ... »Mulewhipper: Yup...I read the rules and they are exactly as Andy has cut and ... »SSUSA Staff: Yes, the baseball rule is different from the softball rule ... |
13 | Jan. 27, 2014 | 766 |
You make the call part 643» stick8: This play happened in a mens game, not a senior game, i was umpiring. ...»Mulewhipper: Good one...I believe the run counts as you have described the ... »BudLeftField: Hi stick8-If the shortstop runs to third base or throws to third base ... »mad dog: nope run doesn't count.....runner on 2b is forced into going to ... »TexasTransplant: Agree with Mad Dog. The force out does not have to be executed at ... »LP: mad dog i knew if i hung around this chat room long enough i would ... »stick8: Mad Dog, Texas Transplant and LP are correct. The run does not count. ... »Paul P: If a baserunner on 2nd base, attempting to score on a single, makes a ... »SSUSA Staff: If, in the sole judgment of the umpire, the 3rd base coach made no ... »mnmasters38: I was under the impression on a force play that the runner can stop ... »mad dog: mnmasters...that is a total falsehood except for one time,and that is ... »paul0784: If that were me umpiring as soon as he started running back to second ... »mad dog: paul,you would be totally wrong calling it that way......no runner is ... »stick8: Mnmasters38 and paul0784 I've been umpiring for 20+ years and I have ... »stick8: Mad Dog I have to disagree with you where you stated running ... »Downs: stick8, sorry to say that your application of the Batter-Runner rule ... »mad dog: stick as an ump i thought this would be a rule you knew...i know ASA ... »stick8: OK you two got me!! I should have clarified in USSSA I'm not ... »INHOC2: Two questions...unable to clarify in the rule book: 1) Is a foul tip ... »TimMcElroy: Section 1.29 FOUL TIP A foul tip is a ball that goes directly from ... »INHOC2: Thanks for responding, Tim. So in order for it to be an out, the ... »VINNY LV: the answer Paul gave is absolutely wrong.. being an ump myself ya ... »TimMcElroy: INHOC2 My response above was intended to discuss the scenario of a ... »stick8: Paul P, I have an out on that runner. Whether it's accidental or not ... »VINNY LV: stick, my call would be if the coach doesn't assist the runner he can ... »SSUSA Staff: The SSUSA Rulebook requires (at pages 51-52) an umpire's judgment ... »stick8: I suppose if a baserunner was rounding third and tripped over the bag ... »SSUSA Staff: That's one scenario (so long as the coach doesn't help the runner up) ... |
27 | Jan. 27, 2014 | 1868 |
Equalizer runs» INHOC2: Why are not the equalizer runs given in the first 5 innings? My AAA ...»titanhd: I may be wrong but, I think that you should have been given the 1 run ... »INHOC2: Perhaps I am a little dense...I am getting old, you know. The first ... »SSUSA Staff: RE-POST CORRECTION: The equalizer rules specify that the 5-Run ... »JBTexas : Staff, I agree with titan, fifth rule should have been given and that ... »SSUSA Staff: The "underdog" only gets the run in an inning that is actually played ... »JBTexas : Staff, I hate to be a pain but why isn't that stated in rule 1.21, it ... »SSUSA Staff: JBTexas ... The Official SSUSA Rulebook, at page 70, details this ... »INHOC2: Thanks for the clarification, even though if a team doesn't get the ... »SSUSA Staff: Teams are ALWAYS entitled to their native defensive alignment in any ... »db14: Dave... If a cheetah can run at 40mph and a ardvark only 10 mph how ... »JBTexas : Staff, Thanks for a lesson in reading the complete rule book, didn't ... »DaveDowell: db14 ... That depends on the color of the apples! Green apples ... »obagain: So what would keep a better team from wasting time to make sure you ... »SSUSA Staff: An alert Tournament/Field Director taking charge and ruling ... »obagain: A few key pitching changes, players taking extra pitches or calling ... »SSUSA Staff: Doesn't have to be all that sophisticated from the Director ... »obagain: I don't see many directors that would take that stance, just in the ... »VINNY LV: Dave, what if he had yellow apples does he have to yield ??? ya knew ... »Webbie25: Anybody know where I can get a flashing yellow apple?? I played with ... |
19 | Jan. 21, 2014 | 916 |
pitchers screen.» larryreg: One big thing the screen Dosen't let me do... Now the pitchers can ... |
0 | Jan. 19, 2014 | 247 |
Home Run Rule» INHOC2: If a Major team is allowed 6 home runs, and a AAA team is allowed 3 ...»titanhd: 3 »JamesLG: From what I understand you play 3 HR's and give them a choice of 1 ... »chico senior: JamesLG - you play at whatever the lowest rated teams home run rules ... »JamesLG: Thanks Chico: Playing the lower lever HR rule is fine as long a ... »garyheifner: Once you get to the 70s you always get your 11th defender regardless ... »stick8: INHOC2, Picture you being on a AAA team playing a major team and you ... |
6 | Jan. 18, 2014 | 546 |
New rule» JBTexas : Anyone but me have a problem with the new face mask rule for pitchers ...»Fred S: I don't like it but on the other hand it is making me do something I ... »taits: They love to impose rules.... Wearing gear is smart however. I ... »obagain: I would rather they do that then to restrict bats or make the balls ... »LP: JBTexas i have a big problem with ssusa imposing this type of rule, ... »JBTexas : Larry, problem I have is that it is harder seeing the ball with a ... »Adiktiv6: I agree 100% with JBTexas & LP!! Pitchers are already a "target" ... »Adiktiv6: oops...that should read "the now CHANGED HR rule" »obagain: I don't understand all the whining about the HR rule. So if you cant ... »mad dog: JB/larry..you have seen the one i wear(rip-it) right....it has great ... »Dbax: Just got home from Tucson tournament. Not one pitcher I talked to ... »PattyMac: Bad Change, back to the pitchers having to pay for it. SSUSA knows ... »Omar Khayyam: It was predictable that this rule was coming. I pointed out two years ... »rightrj1: The rule will make teams and pitchers chose if they want to play in ... »Ho: You can complain all you want to SSUSA and probably SPA and ISSA in ... »stick8: Does anyone remember the middle hitting rule from a couple years ago? ... »crusher: S8, Yes. 65 and 70+. These guys are a little wiser and have seen ... »BogeyBert21: When does it stop, first the mask, then shin guards, then chest ... »taits: It's about liability, not (just) safety. Sure it has something to do ... »JDub: I've been Pitching for many years, mainly U-Trip. I've been Blind in ... »garyheifner: Gotta disagree that you can't see the ball. I have a mask and a ... »Eurskine: Gary...This is Eurskine,coach of the Monarchs.What type of mask do ... »JBTexas : GaryH, got to disagree with you. Glad you can see clear as a bell but ... »PattyMac: Again can someone from the SSUSA staff address WHY the rules have ... »southernson: Have to wear a mask? Forced to wear a mask? If that's the case, I'm ... »Enviro-Vac: Hockey players used to say the same about helmets. Today all wear ... »Caveman: I believe it should be a choice not a mandate. I do wear a helmet and ... »400: JDUB let's "face" it you always looked better with the mask on. ... »400: Patty Mac I have always thought that the complete player, regardless ... »PattyMac: 400, I have always wanted to be te complete player. I usually ... »Adiktiv6: PattyMac, Keep swinging the bat! Let Mr 400 (batting avg, I'm sure) ... »garyheifner: JB TEXAS Will explain one more time. Hard hit low liners that I ... »Mango: I too would be interested in hearing SSUSA’s rationale for the rule ... »garyheifner: EURSKINE I have a plastic mask that I used to pitch with. It is ... »PattyMac: I think the major and major plus divisions should be rolled into one ... »Duke: PattyMac, combining Major and Major Plus teams is just not going to ... »PattyMac: Duke, Thanks for your response. Just to let you know some of my ... »Graphite: Mr.Eurk,The Worth helment/mask isn,t bad. »Eurskine: Thanks Graphite..called Direct Sports...with the Senior Player ... »Pieman: I have a problem with the mandatory mask rule. I tried the masks ... »Pieman: Was just thinking that why not make everyone wear a mask even while ... »Duke: Pieman, I agree that there are a few balls that I could have caught ... »Duke: Pieman, Forgot to mention that safety is now more important, than ... »AcePV: I personally think a pitchers mask is a great idea. I've used two ... »INHOC2: Reiterating a comment I made in "Where are the Pitchers" section: ... |
44 | Jan. 18, 2014 | 2505 |
Rules Committee Minutes» softball47: So, What IS the Olympic Rule for Transgender Players... it is a ...»SSUSA Staff: Here is an excerpt from an article by (trans-gender athlete) Donna ... »ACC: Can someone please explain to which senior tournaments SSUSA rules ... »SSUSA Staff: Any tournament run under SSUSA sanction ... That generally includes ... »ACC: Thank you. I have written nsga.org (Senior Games; email ... |
4 | Jan. 4, 2014 | 689 |
STAFF question on scoring of runs» B.J.: I was going over rule 5.7 SCORING OF RUNS....B No run shall be ...»SSUSA Staff: Here's one easy scenario: One out ... Runners on 1st and 2nd ... Fly ... »B.J.: thx for your response, but I dont really consider that a true appeal ... »SSUSA Staff: A runner shall be called out, after a successful live ball appeal, if ... »txnighttrain: On the other hand, if the legally tagged runner crosses the scoring ... »stick8: B.J. the scenario SSUSA staff posted indicates the defensive team is ... »B.J.: stick8 i agree with your scenario...read my OP below...and as I ... »SSUSA Staff: B.J. - You apparently, despite a very clear explanation above, do not ... »swing for the fences : great explanation Staff! »ShaneV: This might help, let's say same scenario as above, runner from 1st ... |
9 | Dec. 28, 2013 | 1307 |
65 AA player playing 60 AAA» qdup1: I am going to PHX Worlds in less then a week and a 60 AAA team would ...»d45: I believe that once you go up to an AAA team, especially in the same ... »softballnuts: I played 55 AAA in the Las Vegas World Masters. Will I be eligibl ... »crusher: I think SSUSA has a Number that sets a level of play. 55AAA may be ... »d45: Softballnuts, if you are 65, and played down, I believe you will be ... »Duke: gdup1, a 60AAA team has 5 rating per SSUSA and 65AA team has a rating ... »txnighttrain: Rule 4.2(6) A player may play in two age division under the following ... »Duke: txnighttrain, While you have quoted the rule book as to what team a ... »Wes: Duke Where do you find you chart in the rule book???? As I read the ... »SSUSA Staff: The Ratings Index Chart (below) is not published in the SSUSA ... »Wes: So help me out with your chart: I'm playing 70's AAA Are you saying ... »SSUSA Staff: If you are currently 74, turning 75 during the calendar year 2014, ... »Duke: To All, In addition, this chart is used in tournaments when teams ... »Wes: Wow Thank you for your help but I'm to old to understand all of ... »txnighttrain: If it effects a team then it should say so in the rule book. It looks ... »smooth01: According to your chart , as a 60 AAA player you are saying I was ... »SSUSA Staff: You were not playing "illegally" on the 50's team, assuming your ... |
16 | Dec. 26, 2013 | 1347 |
80+ Rule change» BillK: The new rule change for 80+ teams, where they phase out the 78 and 79 ...»swing for the fences : BillK, of all the rule changes I have seen on this board an ... »SSUSA Staff: The reality of the previous rule is that 82 and 83 year old players ... »crusher: Sounds like a good change Staff. »BillK: I would like to thank the staff for responding to my comment. I think ... »Fred S: It also should equalize the competition. It will possibly drop the ... »swing for the fences : SSUSA, had no idea the 80s division was so cut throat! Jeez... |
6 | Dec. 26, 2013 | 539 |
New rules and communication» Malo37: Wow, I've been out of it and just found out about these new rule ...»Marv19: God bless you too David. You and Your team are the real deal. Its ... |
1 | Dec. 21, 2013 | 473 |
1 up rule» cal50: Staff, Was there a discussion at the rules committee to change from ...»SSUSA Staff: The "1-up Rule" received mention in a couple of general comments, ... »taits: Both those; 1-up and 11 man D work and you are aware of that so why ... »Dbax: The 1up rule is the way to go. Just common sense. »Tim Millette: If you are thinking about 1 up, I think any homer over the one up ... »ffdonnie: If the rule had to be changed (shouldn't have) then the 1-up should ... »chico senior: The best thing that NCSSA does better then SSUSA is the 1-up rule. I ... »taits: A good compromise in the Hr rule would be the 1 up but it you are ... |
7 | Dec. 21, 2013 | 706 |
PRIORITY: SSUSA 2013 RULES COMMITTE MEETINGS • Minutes, Decisions & Other Actions» SSUSA Staff: The link below redirects to the Official Minutes of the 2013 SSUSA ...»SSUSA Staff: The Rules Committee Minutes have been corrected to properly state the ... »SSUSA Staff: Face Masks, Home Runs Top List of New SSUSA Rules for 2014Softball ... |
2 | Dec. 20, 2013 | 3393 |
Home run and divsion rating thoughts» garyheifner: Be honest, most of the M+ teams and many of the M teams are carefully ...»kbl: Garyheifner...Great bunch of thoughts!! Thanks, Ken »PattyMac: GAry, I like the idea of divisions. 2 divisions : Major - 0 ... »Sparky.1: Now "IF ONLY" the "POWERS TO BE" will read and consider this ... »TexasTransplant: Gary, I would add: segregate the M+ teams on their own field or ... »mad dog: gary like what you have said but have the hrs like this AA = 1 HR ... »LeeLee: LOL they don't won't to run around the bases do you really think they ... |
6 | Dec. 18, 2013 | 757 |
face mask rule» j33: I have been pitching for over 30 years. In the last 12 years I have ...»AcePV: As a pitcher myself, I personally like the idea of a narrow pitching ... |
1 | Dec. 15, 2013 | 461 |
Scoring Line? In MLB?» ShaneV: http://espn.go.com/mlb/hotstove13/story/_/id/10121849/mlb-intends-ban- ... |
0 | Dec. 12, 2013 | 315 |
Dead Ball Out» JohnBob: I see where SSUSA has went back to home runs over the limit being ...»PJ3P: Obviously pitchers wearing masks being mandatory because of this ... »Adiktiv6: BAD decision.....This rule change by the SSUSA knowingly puts the ... »mad dog: why should this put the pitchers in harms way anymore,then if there ... »leftyfalcon: Well lets see in AA and AAA it was a dbo already after you made your ... |
4 | Dec. 8, 2013 | 744 |
