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injured player

» B.J.: Dave, can I get a ruling on the injured player ...
      »taits: From what I remember: he is at bat from how I read this and get ...
      »SSUSA Staff: B.J. ... Tough circumstance to be in, but we would rule that he is ...
      »Gavin5: Knowing the current at bat will result in an out, would it be ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Gavin5 ... With the luxury of "20-20 hindsight", that's probably the ...
      »Omar Khayyam: Saw an older player break his hip on his swing. He was sprawled ...
      »Mulewhipper: SSUSA Staff...what are the rules if player is ejected? Just ...
      »SSUSA Staff: If the player is ejected and there is no substitute available, his ...
      »stick8: Unless a sub is available replace an ejected player it's an out each ...
      »Mulewhipper: lol Staff...thanks.
      »DaveDowell: You were just looking for a "Get Out of Jail Free" card ... Nice try!
10 Nov. 8, 2016 1045

Is it a catch?

» Webbie25: The batter hits a long fly ball to the fence. The outfielder leaps up ...
      »B.J.: since the fielder had the glove in the proper place at the start of ...
      »Webbie25: I think it is a catch also, but I cannot find anything to cover it, ...
      »softball4b: Had to be someone other than yourself unless it was a 4 ft fence. ...
      »DMac: When I was umping in So Cal, the player had to voluntarily release ...
      »swing for the fences : It's a catch! The outfielder did not throw his glove but had it ...
      »taits: Could be had no control of ball, no catch. You have to see it to know ...
      »B.J.: taits....the op said that while lying on the ground he caught the ...
      »stick8: Sounds like a legal catch but I'd have to see the play to make a ...
      »taits: BJ, I missed that you are correct. I stoped at the end of the 1st ...
      »Joncon: """When I was umping in So Cal, the player had to voluntarily release ...
10 Nov. 2, 2016 886

rule clarification II

» stick8: Kind of an easy one but here it goes: A4 is on third, A3 is on ...
      »Garocket: Not as easy as you might think Rule If a batter bats out of ...
      »Omar Khayyam: Had a similar situation in a tournament recently, but I suspect it is ...
      »B.J.: Garocket....you are correct about the runner who scored going back to ...
      »k man: BJ, if that's the case then the defensive team might be better off ...
      »Garocket: B.J. Do you really think I am that smart LOL I copied and pasted ...
      »Garocket: Retraction I also found another rule that says all runners return to ...
      »Garocket: BUT This is what I found on an ASA site COMMONLY OCCURRING ASA ...
      »B.J.: Garocket....I see what you are saying...earlier after I posted my ...
      »Garocket: But still in limbo, because SSUSA does not say what to do about any ...
      »B.J.: yes, and that's what I always do but even their rule doesn't ...
      »stick8: After checking with the on-line SSUSA rule book three things are for ...
      »B.J.: stick.....first of all great scenario...I asked about 10 tournament ...
      »stick8: BJ that would be the conventional wisdom. However, it does need to be ...
13 Oct. 31, 2016 636

Running up ????

» garyheifner: What is "exactly" RUNNING UP IN THE BOX? Many hitters, especially ...
      »BruceinGa: Depending on the pitcher I will "run up". If he throws deep I start ...
      »B.J.: gary, no its not like girl left handed batters....I see more right ...
      »bkb555: 90-95% of the fields we play on have NO batter's box....we used to ...
      »B94: I still think the easiest way is to word the rule to say the batter ...
4 Oct. 31, 2016 673

Is it a strike if ball hits front edge of strike mat and also kicks up some dirt?

» Turbobob: Our senior league uses the official strike mat as stated in the ...
      »k man: Turbo, you yourself said: ball hits the front edge of the mat. ...
      »Turbobob: k man, so you are saying that even if the ball hits the front of the ...
      »k man: just my opinion based on how I've seen things called over the years. ...
      »OZ40: As long as the arc requirement is met it seems that the upper edge of ...
      »The Screamer5: As an umpire, I get hear this ALL the time. Batters complain that ...
      »k man: btw, shouldn't be any different than if it hits the side edge or the ...
      »neck10: but just think if the ball bounds upward and back toward pitcher then ...
      »Dancer: We call it a cheap strike, but still a strike. and most likely the ...
      »Don5: In 2017 they will be using square spongy balls, much like the stote ...
      »Don5: Yes I used the word "muck" that wasn't a typo, most of you will ...
      »garyheifner: Have had the post happen many times. Quite often, the ump has ruled ...
      »patrick jt: did someone strike out
      »Turbobob: Thanks for all of your input, which is what I asked for. I believe ...
      »Boom Boom 1: If the ball bounces up and never crosses the plate isn't that a ball? ...
      »B94: If you are using a one inch thick piece of wood as a plate it should ...
      »DaveDowell: Boom Boom 1 In SSUSA sanctioned events, a pitched ball must only ...
      »DieselDan: Having the dirt in front of the plate cleared away periodically might ...
      »Bobby Buggs: I hate those front edge ankle biters. Being new to the Senior game ...
      »JT25: I wish SSUSA would go to a 1 inch wood strike mat because when the ...
      »taits: Where you guys living, in the twilight zone. A strike is a strike ...
      »bkb555: JT....if you put a 1 inch strike mat for a strike, you KNOW somebody ...
      »Omar Khayyam: bkb555, seems like that would be the case, doesn't it? We have been ...
22 Oct. 29, 2016 1793

1-1-----0-0 count

» garyheifner: Staff We have beat this topic to death and then eliminated it from ...
      »Fred S: I like that better than 1-1. It still gives 2 pitches to fool around ...
      »SS13: I think anything is better than 0-0. I would try that for sure.
      »Omar Khayyam: As a pitcher, I like gary's suggestion. I have not been a fan of ...
      »southpaw: As a pitcher, I like this idea as well. After all, we are throwing ...
      »17Black: I am open to all ideas' not sure about the 8 inning games ...
      »k man: 17Black- regarding the outfielders, of which I am one, and that only ...
      »17Black: k man --- AGREED, outfielders defensively/offensively/base running, ...
      »k man: 17Black and thanks for reminding me, senior bats for SSUSA, double ...
      »Don5: Personally I like the 1-1 count, with hot bats and balls, the batter ...
      »maskedman: I don't like any rule that give the hitter another excuse for ...
      »taits: Can't recall this ever being brought up. But a middle of the road and ...
      »taits: It's been a hitters game for years. Still will be unless you change ...
      »bkb555: we did our fall league 1-1 with a screen......games lasted 1.5 hours ...
13 Oct. 28, 2016 1488

Tournament win.....

» CAT: IF a team wins a major tournament and gets moved up to the higher ...
0 Oct. 25, 2016 461

Ruling clarification

» stick8: Batter runs up in the box to hit and is called out for being out of ...
      »rlspls1974: As soon as the batter is called out the ball is dead. So no, it does ...
      »SSUSA Staff: We respectfully disagree. ANY batted ball that clears the fence and ...
      »rlspls1974: Ok staff, that makes no sense. The player was called OUT prior to ...
      »Dbax: Have to agree with rispis. This makes no sense. ...
      »SSUSA Staff: The batter hit the ball out of the park ... That's a home run for the ...
      »coop3636: so if a ump calls time out and then the batter hits one over then ...
      »SSUSA Staff: coop ... You're digging real deep into the "hypothetical barrel" on ...
      »Chief144: It happened this past weekend at BLD & it was called correctly by the ...
      »rlspls1974: Staff, I don't get it but if you say so. Can you please provide the ...
      »coop3636: I still don't agree I dead ball is a dead ball, all action ...
      »SS11: So if bases are loaded and out, and this happens,the batter is out, ...
      »B.J.: I agree with what STAFF says... that this is how the rule is being ...
      »DCPete: Pathetically stupid; how can a ball over the fence count against your ...
      »L.Martin: So let me get this straight, your penalizing the batter twice in one ...
      »Dbax: This is an in interpretation that needs to be changed. ...
      »curty: seems it is some what the same as a bases loaded, no out, 4 runs in, ...
      »DaveDowell: DCPete: Yes, it's counted as a team HR, just not scored as one on the ...
      »rlspls1974: Curty, Apples and Oranges, in your example the 5th run scored ending ...
      »Dbax: Curty, like said above, it's not the same thing. DD, please ...
      »BallPlayer35: The out of the box rule needs to change on my opinion. Giving the ...
      »DCPete: Just put a line from the 3rd Base line to the 1st Base line 40" in ...
      »just a player: my experience with this rule has been with players running up to hit ...
      »Boom Boom 1: To add to this dilemma, our softball batter's box is 6ft long (little ...
      »Boom Boom 1: and to further complicate things: the softball batter's box was ...
      »LP: As I read and try to understand why it's not a dead ball when the ...
      »B94: I personally can't see how it isn't a dead ball situation if the ...
      »Turbo 34: There is no way you can count it toward a teams home run total. The ...
      »ffdonnie: Wow, senior softball has some pretty dumb rules, but this is the ...
      »Panther: The batter's box is supposed to be 7' x 3' according to SSUSA rules.
      »SSUSA Staff: ffdonnie ... It's been a VERY short discussion on the few occasions ...
      »Turbo 34: You didn't address what happens if there's no home runs left and two ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Nawwww ... That's an easy one ... Multiple choice for whatever the ...
32 Oct. 25, 2016 1802

New Player

» AllTournyPit: I have a question....If a player that hasn't played an inning of ...
      »paul0784: He should enter Senior Softball as a AAA player.
      »AllTournyPit: That's what my thought was. SSUSA thinks differently for some reason. ...
      »titanhd: I would re-think your answer Paul.New teams can start as AAA. I ...
      »AllTournyPit: Here's the scenario. We are a new team. Never played in a tournament ...
      »paul0784: I had a new player play with us this year we are 60M and he was ...
      »paul0784: ALLTourneyPit If you are a AAA team you can have 3 M players on your ...
      »SSUSA Staff: There's a "new team" forming in your general area of the country, and ...
      »AllTournyPit: Ok...like I said, it doesn't matter what class we play. We will build ...
      »AllTournyPit: *Correction..Does a name on a roster classify what level you play? If ...
      »SSUSA Staff: ATP ... In reply to your last two posts ... [1] The 'name on a ...
      »Omar Khayyam: Someone thinks a player has major level skills and puts them on a ...
      »AllTournyPit: Ok....this is giving me a freaking headache! ....LOL The player in ...
      »southernson: AllTourneyPit, Welcome to Senior Softball where things are rarely ...
13 Oct. 18, 2016 1227

Courtesy runner replacement on a base.

» Steve in Tucson: Referring to Rule 8.5(5), a courtesy runner is in the game when he ...
      »B.J.: yes you are correct....and if it is not caught before a pitch... An ...
      »curty: years ago i helped to make available a booklet of case studies for ...
      »JBTexas : BJ, before first pitch only comes into play if he just scored, other ...
      »rightrj1: here's one for you; Base hit, batter gets a courtesy runner at 1st ...
      »coop3636: I did this in Vegas this year The UIC said it was legal. You cannot ...
      »SSUSA Staff: rightjr1 and coop3636 TWO incorrect calls resulting in an ...
      »rightrj1: Staff...THANK YOU SO MUCH...I'm putting my bullets away! LOL
      »coop3636: I will concede if you say so, but... As you wrote, rule 8.5(3) says ...
      »DaveDowell: Agreed: It's a very simple fix, and I can name that fix in two words: ...
      »coop3636: I'm glad that is taken care of..lol now what's next to discuss?
      »stick8: Scenario: Stick8 gets a single and gets a courtesy runner, coop3636 ...
      »coop3636: this scenario would never happen I'm not faster then anybody....
      »B.J.: stick....yes ....Rulebook 8.5(3) "..A courtesy runner may not be ...
      »Steve in Tucson: WOW! I didn't realize I was opening Pandora's box, but the ...
      »Mike Fossil's 60's: So does the umpire make the out call or does the defense need to ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Mike ... This is NOT an appeal play. The umpire may make that call at ...
16 Oct. 16, 2016 912

Scoring of runs

» GH: Please clarify Rule 5.7 if you would, based on the ...
      »SSUSA Staff: NO RUN SCORES ... Very simple rule: The run does NOT count ANY time ...
      »B.J.: whenever there is a situation where the runner/runners are FORCED to ...
2 Oct. 6, 2016 517

classification

» jake7: I would like to know if a team that is rated major in one division ...
0 Sept. 26, 2016 292

Solution of underage teams

» Davy: I have empathy for the 40's team that went to a tournament in Arizona ...
      »jrhunch: the reason we pay membership fees is so they have our personal info ...
      »marcster13: If it is a SSUSA turny the solution is already in place. Have a ...
      »Hitemdeep: The team in question isn't even a registered SSUSA team. They haven't ...
      »Dbax: Hitemdeep, please send a formal complaint email to SSUSA. We are all ...
4 Aug. 25, 2016 690

Why are there rules?

» Hitemdeep: Why are there rules that players must follow but a director is ...
      »DaveDowell: With such a multitude of detail information you have provided, it's ...
      »Hitemdeep: Played in a qualifier this weekend. There was a team allowed to play ...
      »Benji4: Dave rub the SSUSA crystal ball....C'mon But if I had to guess ...
      »Dbax: Lol! Nice guess.
      »ffdonnie: C'mon deep, if you are going to call someone out on here then grow ...
      »neck10: the tournament director's in Lansing were fine as far as we were ...
      »Hitemdeep: Really this is how you guys respond to a matter that is supposed to ...
      »softball4b: Whether I agree with the premise or not. If I want to be taken ...
      »Benji4: Very well put Mike but unfortunately there are very few of us left ...
      »E6 in AZ: Let me make sure I got this straight, "Hitem" has an issue, posts it ...
      »Benji4: Nobody blew him up with negativity. We simply said identify the ...
      »softball4b: Seriously, you think either of those programs apply. Is the ...
      »Dbax: I did write a complaint to SSUSA earlier in the year after the Spring ...
      »16wood: Each person who uses this message board to express himself/herself ...
      »Hitemdeep: I seriously simply wanted to state why must we follow rules and ...
      »SSUSA Staff: A few hopefully relevant comments ... This Message Board does ...
      »E6 in AZ: Hitem, I hear you and agree completely with you on this topic (check ...
      »Infinity11: Gentleman, I normally don't post on these but in defense of the ...
      »Hitemdeep: Infinity11.....rhata some funny stuff you wrote. It's complete BS. ...
      »Hitemdeep: That's....
      »bogie: Dave, you always address things with such wisdom...can i hire you to ...
      »Hitemdeep: Just a fact for you infinity teams knew they were letting underage ...
      »ffdonnie: Hitem, I stand by my (probably)inappropriate, (possibly beer ...
      »DaveDowell: We respect people's privacy here ... The formal complaint mechanism, ...
      »Dbax: Ffdonnie, the director was named at the beginning of this post by ...
      »Omar Khayyam: I'm impressed with the eloquence of some of our posters. Well ...
      »Infinity11: Omar, You are pretty much right on the money. Although, they did ...
      »OZ40: I personally would feel so much better as I picked up my teeth off ...
      »Hitemdeep: Infinity I guess your point 1% comes into play here because I am 110% ...
      »Omar Khayyam: OZ40, you made me laugh! Thanks for the chuckle.
      »Joncon: From my perspective, 40 year olds are ALL underage lol.
31 Aug. 25, 2016 2357

Using screen for pitcher

» JBTexas : Guys, our 40 division(SASSL) has voted to start using a ...
      »B.J.: I wrote this rule for our senior league...the screen became very ...
      »coop3636: Before some other rules. Make sure your pitchers know that using the ...
      »Dbax: 40's using a screen???
      »rlspls1974: A. At the beginning of each half inning or when a pitching change is ...
      »Downs: JH Texas. If you'll send me your mailing, or home address, I'll ...
      »JBTexas : Downs, e-mail on the way, thanks
      »DieselDan: Our St. G senior leagues use the portable style screens that teams ...
      »NYGNYY: Anytime we can protect a player I am all for it. I am not an expert ...
      »B.J.: Downs I sent you an e mail ...I'd like a copy also...just to compare ...
      »JBTexas : NYGNYY,Our 40 division uses senior bats but our over 40 co-ed ...
      »neck10: we put our screen in front of the pitcher ,the pitcher must throw ...
      »curveball: neck, that's the perfect position for the screen. Solves a lot of ...
      »Omar Khayyam: Our 50 and over league has mandated a screen for 17 years since a ...
      »UMBACH: THE screens are used everywhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      »J R: JB in Houston we use the rule the inside leg of the screen must be ...
      »BruceinGa: Our screen rules are similar to JR's, inside leg must be touching and ...
      »J R: I agree t should be foul ball and an out on third strike.I just ...
      »B.J.: the problem we found with a batted ball hitting the screen on a 3rd ...
      »mad dog: bj why......its slowpitch....batters in your league can't hit to ...
19 Aug. 19, 2016 1083

desinated batter

» eraldo: Is the designated batter still allowed in ssusa tournaments. i can`t ...
      »Duke: As long as you are not trying to say a DH for a fielder. You are ...
      »B.J.: you can bat your whole roster up to 20 7.1(1) BATTER ...
2 Aug. 10, 2016 448

Finding Games

» gibby59: Question As a 50 + team Your looking for good touraments with good ...
0 Aug. 7, 2016 343

Are time-outs allowed after umpire calls "Batter up"?

» Turbobob: I'm in a 65 plus league and want to know if, after the home umpire ...
      »titanhd: Not the anwser to your question but, players can only request or ask ...
      »B.J.: i'll assume you mean during an inning change...the umpire will allow ...
      »Turbobob: B.J. I'm not in a tournament game, so there is no timer. I ...
      »B.J.: Turbobob...we have one of the largest senior leagues in the country ...
      »stick8: Unless otherwise specified by a given association there is no rule ...
5 July 28, 2016 678

Is there a penalty for batter not releasing the bat after reaching 1st base?

» Turbobob: I'm in a 60 plus league using SSUSA rules. We do not use a runner's ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Turbobob ... You likely erred (by reference to your own description ...
      »Dancer: Then again it is senior league. The guy might have been using the bat ...
      »Omar Khayyam: Dancer, LOL
      »curty: I believe USSSA instituted a rule covering this a few years back as ...
      »Hit the gap: The real question is why the heck would you want to carry your bat to ...
      »k man: Hit the Gap - how about the batter was using a doctored bat, or a bat ...
      »Turbobob: Hey Gap and k man. There are a few players in our league that hit a ...
      »dand: I recently played in the Buckeye Classic, an SPA tournament. The ...
8 July 17, 2016 1239

USING COURTESY RUNNERS

» NYGNYY: Trying to understand the use of courtesy runners. This past weekend ...
      »SSUSA Staff: It appears that the umpire erred ... Any player, starter or ...
      »Omar Khayyam: An often misunderstood concept by umpires and by managers! When I was ...
2 July 15, 2016 761
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