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You make the call

» Perl: Looking for answer using SPA rules. Runner on 3rd. Ground ball hit ...
      »jah#4: If a defensive player tags the runner after the runner has crossed ...
      »Webbie25: I've watched an increasing number of players use that commit line in ...
      »DieselDan: First option is for the defensive player to hold the ball while in ...
      »Webbie25: I know how to play it as I do play third. But it is a play that ...
      »Dbax: No need to change the rules. Itís a smart play by the base runner. If ...
      »stick8: As the post is stated I agree with part of it. 1) Yes the runner is ...
      »bkb555: It has become a strategic part of baserunning because of the tag/no ...
      »Airbosn: A little clarification. The runner ran across the commitment line and ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Airbosn ... Yes, under SSUSA Rulebook Definition ß1.15 (see below), ...
      »stick8: Airborne, that was a headsy play by that runner!
      »B.J.: SSUSA staff (Dave).. lol.. I stayed away from answering because it ...
      »Dbax: You quote only the first definition of continue. It also meansÖ to ...
      »B.J.: Dbax .. yes you can use the word continue in different ways.. BUT in ...
      »DaveDowell: We can end this battle of definitions by letting you know the (only) ...
      »Dbax: BJ when you say you are not an English Major, you got that right.
      »B.J.: Dbax.. lmao .. although I would have made your reply .. you have ...
      »BruceinGa: Perl, same thing happened to me about a month ago. I was baserunner, ...
      »Caztex: I was the 3rd baseman involved in this play.I was chssing full speed ...
      »DaveDowell: Caztex ... It's not a lot different than tail gating on the freeway ...
      »B.J.: Caztex.. if you knew you couldn't tag him after he passes the CL why ...
      »stick8: Bruce a couple things here 1) the umpire should have called you safe ...
      »stick8: Caztex, thatís a heads up play by that runner!
      »lb16: Steve, You could have just asked me!! Yes runner is safe, once he ...
      »lb16: Steve, In SPA rulebook it is Rule 8 Section 3 Definition L.
      »k man: Some call it a smart play while others refer to it as a tacky tack ...
      »stick8: K man, correct me if Iím wrong but I read this as a runner who was ...
      »lb16: stick, No once runner is tagged past commit line that runner is ...
      »stick8: Thatís the way Iíve always understood it to be lb16. However k man ...
      »k man: stick8, Yes, the runner can then be put out by a play at the plate or ...
      »stick8: Interesting. Are you at liberty to state what organization has that ...
      »k man: I just copied it from their website ISSA
      »stick8: Interesting. Didnít know they had that rule.
32 Feb. 18, 2022 1185

full swing

» shortstop33: saw discussion on at not a full swing. Had a player in our league ...
      »B.J.: SS33 .. Rule 7.6E does say that but then they fail to give a ...
1 Feb. 17, 2022 313

Is a check-swing or deliberate half-swing legal?

» jgoff5113: In the World Masters Tourney that just concluded, a batter made a ...
      »STL0: The only thing in the rule book I could find after a quick look that ...
      »Nancy Allen: I have always admired what we call here a good slap hitter. Very few ...
      »B.J.: STLO. You are correct there is no definition for what a full swing is ...
      »jgoff5113: Thanks everyone for your comments. STL0: For what it's worth, this ...
      »jgoff5113: And Nancy: His wrists were not turned.
      »stick8: Jgoff5113, as long as the batter takes a full swing heís fine. A ...
      »Nancy Allen: Jgoff5113, it would be coming down with the bat like an axe from what ...
      »B.J.: ok I'm going to stir the pot some more.. I have yet to see a well ...
      »Nancy Allen: B.J., I totally agree. It is a myth that there is a rule anywhere ...
      »stick8: True, there is no rule that states players must take a full swing. ...
      »B.J.: stick, I think you misunderstood me.. there is such a rule.. I do ...
      »STL0: Nancy: Rule 7.6 (E) CLEARLY states that the batter must take a full ...
      »Nancy Allen: STL0, you're right. I am saying what I am thinking wrong. You can't ...
      »STL0: All good Nancy...just didn't understand why you were saying that. ...
      »jgoff5113: Thank-you all for educating me on this. I suppose it would be unfair ...
      »shortstop33: had a hitter in our league, get a base hit to right one hop to right ...
16 Feb. 17, 2022 1699

Ground rule double or ???

» BillC48: We have an outfield fence with two gaps where the fence overlaps ...
      »Schibs: BILLC48 - once a player attempts a motion towards the ball and ...
      »Turning2: Bill - appears that you have properly addressed the umpires ...
      »Schibs: Turning2 - respectfully, the attempt to play the ball and kicking it ...
      »Turning2: Schibs - the original post is what is being discussed and based on ...
      »Schibs: Turning2 - Let's further breakdown the question from BillC48. First ...
      »Turning2: Schibs - i'm in agreement with what you have stated, Normally - ...
      »Schibs: Turning2 - I appreciate the input, a coach can never have enough ...
7 Feb. 6, 2022 572

Boundries for 65+ teams?

» Heavi: Must 65+ teams adhere to boundry as well as Mississippi (East/West) ...
      »DaveDowell: YES ... States and Bordering States, plus up to two (2) ...
      »QPG25: Dave how can we add our " out-of-region" players ? When I go to my ...
      »DaveDowell: I don't know the "mechanics" of how it might be done in the SSUSA ...
      »Heavi: THNAKS!
4 Jan. 26, 2022 607

Covid residence rule

» QPG25: Will SSUSA still be allowing two non resident players on a team? ...
      »DaveDowell: YES
1 Jan. 16, 2022 390

WHY ARE THESE OFFENSES CALLED DIFFERENTLY

» B.J.: I had this come up at my umpire clinic last month and I couldn't give ...
      »DCPete: Rule 8.3C might make sense if there were 2 Outs at the time but ...
      »stick8: Good points DCPete. Like BJ asked I would have similar questions. Iíd ...
      »TimMcElroy: I don't think it is unreasonable to expect a batter to run 70 feet ...
      »B.J.: Tim, thx for answering.. I 100% agree with you.. but as you know it ...
      »rmp0012002: The way I see it is the B/R didnít finish his at-bat by touching ...
      »B.J.: rmp.. that is not what rule 8.3 C says
      »DCPete: Tim et al; pretty inconsistent ruling at best since both the Batter & ...
      »stick8: Take BJís scenario a step further. After the rule was applied and the ...
      »curty: Guys- 2 different scenarios: the runner on second MIGHT not have to ...
      »B.J.: curty.. the original scenario was very specific bases are loaded so ...
      »curty: BJ-- simply for understanding purposes: in your scenario, ball ...
      »B.J.: curty.. yes the COMPLETELY different scenario you just gave is 100% ...
      »curty: AAH BJ- this scenario CAN happen in your case-- if no runner except ...
      »B.J.: curty .. a scenario is written to get a answer on a specific play .. ...
      »DCPete: And they also haven't addressed why the Batter that doesn't run to ...
      »TimMcElroy: B.J. - I will look into this a bit further with some other folks ...
      »B.J.: Tim, I fully understand and thx..
17 Jan. 13, 2022 1209

roster eligibility

» cheesehead1: As per the discussions entered by the SSUSA staff in response to my ...
      »DaveDowell: cheesehead1 ē We also made it perfectly clear that the actions AND ...
      »cheesehead1: Geez.sorry that people are taking what was a post to discuss the new ...
      »DaveDowell: cheesehead1 ē Let's take another more simplistic cut at this since ...
      »cheesehead1: Dave, now we're getting somewhere. My only purpose has been to ...
      »DaveDowell: No worries cheesehead1 ... This is a lot like a ball game: ...
      »cheesehead1: Dave, one more question concerning the new region/state rule that I ...
      »DaveDowell: Fair question ... Here's the "deal" in that context, along with one ...
      »cheesehead1: Wow, Dave, . You're making this conversation much easier to ...
      »DaveDowell: Both of your assumptions are accurate ... Glad to be able to help ... ...
      »cheesehead1: Dave, I'd like to make a comment on the removal of Hawaii from the ...
      »DaveDowell: Thanks cheesehead1 ... I appreciate and respect your perspective, but ...
      »Fabe: Mahalo for bringing to light some of the challenges we experience ...
      »cheesehead1: Mahalo Dave for your quick response and on New Year to boot. Just ...
13 Jan. 1, 2022 1970

Coin flips

» stattad: A rule suggestion I made a few years ago gets defeated every year. ...
      »DaveDowell: Hi Tad ... Your exact favored procedure wasn't actually considered ...
      »Junior2412: Tad, I was thinking of something similar but a little different. The ...
      »stattad: Well, I always advocated for a coin flip in the championship game ...
      »TimMcElroy: I voted against the coin flip in championship games for a few ...
      »DaveDowell: And the most common "gets it wrong" is from the umpire who, after ...
      »grayhitter59: Ok, here goes nothing. I think the seeding you earned should ...
      »TimMcElroy: Who is the "higher seed" in Round Robin divisions? Who is the ...
      »DaveDowell: Final thoughts from me on this one ... Manny ... Which is more ...
      »stick8: When I ump menís ball the winner of the winners bracket automatically ...
      »rmp0012002: I think coin flips should only be used in the pool play games since ...
      »The Screamer5: Just my opinion but I believe having the "hammer" is such a BIG ...
      »Doak: Hello I am a player on the Timberworks 70 Major plus team and take ...
      »Mango: DoakÖ.shhhhhh! Donít let this out. Actually I agree with you that in ...
      »DaveDowell: Doak and Mango ... You both have done a nice job in proving the ...
      »tnacty: Late to the game cuz I don't spend a lot of time here. Dave apologies ...
15 Dec. 14, 2021 1316

Runner Interference and Dead Bal

» IDon'tKnow 3rdBase: This happened at the Phoenix Winternationals this month. Runners on ...
      »B.J.: once INT. is called it becomes a dead ball and the runner is called ...
      »DCPete: ??? Why would the Umpire wait until After the play was over to call ...
      »B.J.: DC.. umpire error... yes, time should be called immediately
      »stick8: What happened at second that resulted in the umpire calling ...
      »IDon'tKnow 3rdBase: Sorry for the late response Stick. The umpire felt the runner going ...
      »gpump: We had a similar issue in a game we played in Phoenix, however the ...
      »stick8: Ok thatís fine, But the post from and BJ & DC Pete raises a good ...
      »Turning2: IDK3Base - BJ, DCP, and S8 have all responded with correct ruling for ...
8 Dec. 8, 2021 870

watch this umpires out call

» B.J.: I'm going to start teaching this out call mechanic at my umpire ...
0 Dec. 7, 2021 505

Baserunner hit by batted ball

» SarasotaShep: Runner on 1B, no outs. Batted ball hits the runner in fair territory, ...
      »SSUSA Staff: If the baserunner never left the bag, he is SAFE. Whether or not it ...
1 Dec. 3, 2021 566
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2021 SSUSA NATIONAL RULES COMMITTEE MEETINGS ē Official Minutes

» SSUSA Staff: The link below redirects to the Official Minutes of the 2021 SSUS ...
0 Dec. 2, 2021 2066

Happy Thanksgiving to SSUSA players, families, friends

» Turning2: Hope all have a safe and bountiful Thanksgiving and share with others ...
      »GI: Just wanted to pass on my thankfulness at being able to still play a ...
1 Nov. 25, 2021 395

Stepping out of the box to avoid being quick-pitched

» jgoff5113: To avoid being quick-pitched after the first pitch has been thrown, ...
      »DaveDowell: It's a "play ball" situation unless/until you ask for, AND ARE ...
      »B.J.: jgoff.. as stated by Dave this is a live ball situationÖ if You know ...
      »jgoff5113: Thanks Dave and BJ. So it sounds like if a batter steps out without ...
      »DaveDowell: jgoff5113 ... I like B.J.'s suggestion a lot of asking for time on ...
      »jgoff5113: Thanks Dave! Just one more thing Iíll add: I sometimes step out ...
      »stick8: This has always been a stickler of an issue with players. When I ...
      »DieselDan: Would the Nomar Garciaparra routine be acceptable Stick8?
      »stick8: Sure, he didnít take nearly as long as Hargrove did. Thereís a good ...
      »Guppy7325: I will say this, pitchers are creatures of habit.. if you the first ...
      »MurrayW: It also goes the other way. After all, this is slow pitch softball. ...
      »stick8: Ever notice on the rare occasion when someone swings and misses the ...
      »Kimbo Chino: GENTLEMEN, QUICK PITCH IS NOT ALLOWED. here is the rules from the ...
      »Turning2: KC - Good job in referencing both the definition and applicable rule ...
      »hackman: A couple things from the rule book: 1.56 ē QUICK PITCH A pitch made ...
      »stick8: T2, if youíre referring to my post once again your a bit mistaken. ...
      »Turning2: Stick8 - yes my post was in reference to your post. No, I was not ...
      »B.J.: T2.. some quick pitches can be called illegal.. for example say a ...
      »stick8: T2, Iím sorry but you are quite mistaken. Please process this if you ...
      »stick8: BJ, ďpresenting the ballĒ was from a now deceased old school UIC I ...
      »TimMcElroy: Welcome to the off season, where a simple question results in 34 ...
      »mck71: Come on Tim, was only 21 with your reply (22 with mine :-) Happy ...
      »Turning2: stick8 - the biggest problem with these discussions come as a result ...
      »Dbax: But Iím not here to argue.
      »B.J.: Itís time to close this thread
24 Nov. 22, 2021 1344

Re-entry

» k man: I managed our team in Ft. Myers and an incident happened with my team ...
      »k man: BTW, I think I found it in the rules. Page 27 user Substitutes ...
1 Nov. 19, 2021 689

New rules

» nails: Is their a list of the new rules being voted on this month? Iíve ...
      »SSUSA Staff: The preliminary Rules Committee topics that may be considered for ...
      »nails: And iam told new rules e effective for 2022 season. Thanks
      »SSUSA Staff: SSUSA considers rules changes ONE TIME PER YEAR, during the National ...
3 Nov. 13, 2021 741

Tag/No tag play -- does the tagged run count?

» jgoff5113: Scenario: Runners on 1st and 3rd with 1 out. Batter hits a fly ball ...
      »Duckman: Run counts. Runner not tagging up is a Timed Out with the 3rd out ...
      »DaveDowell: Duckman is correct ... Run counts on this "timing play" ... Many ...
      »jgoff5113: Thanks Dave and Duckman! That's exactly what I wanted to understand: ...
3 Nov. 5, 2021 461

Runner struck by batted ball while on base in fair territory

» warren60: If a batted ball strikes a runner while he is still on hois starting ...
      »stick8: The runner is not out. If the closest fielder is behind the runner ...
      »B.J.: I agree with stick... but it doesn't matter whether a batted ball ...
      »coop3636: Hey Guys If a runner is ON the base and is hit by the ball, it is a ...
      »stick8: BJ, thatís correct. It can pass thru a fielder without contacting ...
      »AJC: Whats the call if the ball is hit low and the runner jumps straight ...
      »DaveDowell: The base runner loses the protection and presumption of being "safe" ...
      »DirkPitt: One more comment to BJ's post. Assuming there was a fielder "in ...
      »spider9188: If a baserunner is hit by a fair batted ball while standing on a ...
      »stick8: Spider9188, it depends where the closest fielder is. If the closest ...
      »DaveDowell: spider9188 ... You are incorrect ... You have accurately stated the ...
      »warren60: Thanks all. I now understand the rule.
11 Nov. 4, 2021 1238

Yet another you make the call

» stick8: SSUSA world tournament game. Fourth inning. Team A has 10 players on ...
      »msw4indy: I would ask if when they caught the 11th player, was he batting the ...
      »Donna McGuire: Two key points here: 1) Because the 11th spot in the lineup does ...
      »B.J.: Donna.. great points.. and whatever happened in the previous innings ...
      »stick8: BJ and Donna, both excellent points. This was in 60 major and I was ...
      »rmp0012002: The opposing scorekeeper should have caught the extra batter. What ...
      »stick8: Agreed about catching it rmp. How the opposing scorekeeper didnít ...
      »Turning2: I'm not very well versed on the subject of this post but have ...
      »B.J.: T2Ö. I donít necessarily disagree with you about a possible forfeit ...
      »stick8: T2, I can understand how a team would want a forfeit in the stated ...
      »Turning2: IF, and thatís quite a large two letter word, I were umpiring I would ...
      »Donna McGuire: T2, you ask how to know what to call. Maybe these actual SSUSA game ...
      »Turning2: DM - situation #1 you are referring to sounds like the opposing team ...
      »B.J.: T2.. once again you are making a statement against the offending ...
      »TimMcElroy: I think that Donna did a good job of explaining this situation and ...
      »Turning2: BJ - When you say i have once again made a statement against the ...
      »Fuzz: Donna's explanation seems a logical application of the ...
      »Turning2: Fuzz - Everyone likes to talk about "spirit/intent" of a rule, ...
      »stick8: T2, why would you ask a manager if he or she complied with the ...
      »Donna McGuire: T2, you assumed the Situation 1 stated above was the game you ...
      »Turning2: Stick8 - OK, during the discord between the two coaches or managers ...
      »Fuzz: T2 -- Please list and state the rule which says this situation will ...
      »mck71: I witnessed this as well and agree with how it was handled. Could ...
      »stick8: T2, why the argumentative tone in your posts? You stated that you ...
      »Turning2: Stick8 - give me the location in the rule book where you find the ...
      »stick8: T2, I have a better idea. Please cite your interpretation of rule ...
      »Turning2: Stick8 - thatís what Iím trying to do, just need your input on the ...
      »stick8: T2, why all of a sudden do you need input on ghost and phantom? ...
      »DaveDowell: Come on, stick8 ... It's all about ghosts and phantoms on Halloween ...
      »stick8: lol. Thatís true Dave. Theyíre out in droves!!
29 Oct. 30, 2021 1586
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