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Home plate issue» tall_thunder: Is there some way to solve a moving home plate mat. We had a play a ...»DaveDowell: tall_thunder ... The rule book specifically addresses this ... »Rangview85: Since we are talking rules.... I have an umpires two man mechanics ... »The Screamer5: Rangview85...those things are usually discussed between the two ... »B.J.: rangeview.. I agree with screamer for the most part but I teach and ... »stick8: Screamer it’s important to do a pregame with your partner to go over ... »tall_thunder: Dave, I understand your rule. You know a play at the plate pretty ... »DaveDowell: This is the second of two threads you initiated where the answers ... |
7 | Nov. 28, 2022 | 960 |
Pinch Hitter» DJ12: Scenario: new pitcher comes into the game top of 5. At the bottom ...»mck71: DJ - OK, so good question and I assume someone with specific SSUSA ... »DJ12: Thanks mck71 »k man: Was the new pitcher a substitute for the original pitcher? If so and ... »B.J.: they are not pitch hitters they are considered substitutes and a ... »B.J.: 4.7 • SUBSTITUTES A substitute may take the place of a player whose ... »mck71: Thx BJ. I was thinking that according to OP, the manager ... »B.J.: No, neither pitcher can re-enter at the pitching position ... pitcher ... »Rob64: What is the rule number for a pitcher leaving that position and going ... »B.J.: Rob64, my mistake yes the starting pitcher may re-enter.. I was ... »DJ12: Thanks everyone, this was an interesting conversation. So you know, ... |
10 | Nov. 27, 2022 | 674 |
CHANGE IN POLICY FOR PLAYERS COMPETING IN TWO AGE GROUPS» Mountain Man: How about the reverse? If a player is 65M+, would he still be ...»DaveDowell: Please re-read the SSUSA statement carefully ... It applies ONLY to ... »Webbie25: I think this is an excellent move. We have several players in our ... »Rob64: We have several players in our area that have always played that way, ... »DaveDowell: SSUSA tracks all player history and the rating(s) of the team(s) they ... »titanhd: A player playing 60 M which has a rating index of 6 can play on any ... »DaveDowell: ...so long as he's otherwise eligible as to age, residency and ... »Puppydog44: GREAT RULE SSUSA!!! »Rob64: Just curious Puppydog44 how is this a great rule? Just asking how ... »LMR: In the Midwest (Wisconsin) we do not have the player pool other areas ... »Rob64: LMR give an example of how it would benefit your team by age and ... »christom10: ROB64. A team has 5 guys who play 40M. Under the old rule those ... »HSquared: christom10 (et al) Would it then also seem to reason that the newly ... »Rob64: christom10 same example I gave to LMR above your comment? Right just ... »Rob64: In my statement the 60AAA players should have been rated 60M. »Rob64: 6 40 year olds can't play 50s if thier not of age. »DaveDowell: Rob64 ... Let's make this hypothetical example really simple so even ... »Rob64: Thanks Dave. I understand and also know that's how it's been played ... »DaveDowell: I'm not sure about that having been "officially" the case in Michigan ... »Bruce M: I think this is a great change to an already great policy. SSUSA has ... »christom10: HSquared. In your scenario, no. 5 50 major guys who all drop down ... »Sandman: What about playing down an age division. Can a 65M team add two 60M ... |
21 | Nov. 18, 2022 | 1962 |
ow to appeal a call» JBTexas : DD, we can't find anything in the current rulebook that tells the ...»Donna McGuire: JBTexas, can you be more specific on what you are appealing? (There ... »JBTexas : Dead ball, appealing runner leaving second to early what steps does ... »mad dog: so your saying the runner left before the pitcher pitched the ... »B.J.: JB.. below are the types of appeals that can be made.. If you ... »JBTexas : Runner left to soon on a fly to outfield, runner advances and umpire ... »B.J.: JB.. a full explanation was given above.. and a pitcher is not ... »mck71: JB - old dead ball appeal methodology required the pitcher to be on ... »JBTexas : I agree with everything you stated but most time it is the pitcher ... »mck71: Understood. We are old men stuck in our old ways. LOL Simply let ... »stick8: Dead ball appeal used be next batter in the box, pitcher on the mound ... |
10 | Nov. 2, 2022 | 739 |
How would you call this one?» stick8: Runner on first, one out. Batter hits a fly ball to left center. ...»B.J.: Stick.. Yes I would have the B/R out »B.J.: Stick, I know you like to sometimes word scenarios a certain way.. ... »DaveDowell: I agree with B.J. (in both of his posts) ... Here's a pretty easily ... »k man: Is that on appeal or an automatic umpire call? »DaveDowell: k man ... That's NOT an appeal call ... It's an automatic immediate ... »Turning2: to all - i agree with the call, batter/runner is out for passing ... »B.J.: T2.. there is no need for B/R to re-rouch 1st base and there is no ... »stick8: BJ you are correct in your assumption. This happened in a mens league ... |
8 | Oct. 23, 2022 | 586 |
Age breakdowns going forward» kuuup22: As my team moves to age 75 Team next year, I realize there are some ...»DaveDowell: The SSUSA National Rules Committee meets once a year, at the annual ... »Michael Plunkett: Will rules committee being taking up in late November allowing 70 ... »wdodge22: Hijacking the thread a bit... DD if I cant make it to the Rules ... »DaveDowell: Hi Bill ... You can get an item on the list for possible inclusion on ... »wdodge22: Thank you Dave. »Michael Plunkett: Dave, I just had a player tell me that SSUSA rules were just changed ... »DaveDowell: Michael ... Whoever told you that has made a reckless, false ... »Michael Plunkett: Thank you |
8 | Oct. 19, 2022 | 1086 |
CHANGE IN POLICY FOR PLAYERS COMPETING IN TWO AGE GROUPS» SSUSA Staff: A SSUSA study of players competing on teams in two age groups has ... |
0 | Oct. 7, 2022 | 1065 |
starting with less than 11» LMR: In 65 and above. Team only has 10 players to start game with 11th on ...»B.J.: LMR.. you stated 65 and above ..there are 2 slightly different rules ... »LMR: Thank you B.J. Just for the sake of completeness 65's now play with ... »B.J.: LMR.. yes I forgot that rule was just amended to 11 for 65's last ... |
3 | Oct. 6, 2022 | 575 |
Runner returning to first base to avoid force out» RetiredDawgs: Situation: Runner on 1st base. Batter hits a fly ball to the ...»DaveDowell: OUT ... After any initial play at first base involving a ... »Rob64: Dave... do you know the rule number? Not saying your wrong just ... »DaveDowell: §8.4(1) • BATTER-RUNNER REACHING FIRST BASE Each batter must reach ... |
3 | Sept. 30, 2022 | 727 |
(65)» bringiton: I just got playing with a 65s get to the park and they had our ... |
0 | Sept. 20, 2022 | 466 |
runner interference» rtaven: 8.7 page 52 says "a runner must make every effort to avoid collision ...»B.J.: rtaven.. you did not give a scenario .. it would depend on the actual ... »rtaven: Batted ball hit pitcher and rolled toward 2nd baseman,2nd baseman ran ... »B.J.: rtaven.. on your scenario the ball went off the pitcher which most ... »Bigtimer40: I agree with BJ on this one. The ball is still considered a batted ... »Donna McGuire: I disagree with B.J. and Bigtimer40 on this one. Once the ball ... »B.J.: Donna I agree with your post but I actually was saying the same ... »Turning2: The original poster is asking for clarity for SSUSA rule book ... »B.J.: T2.. a runner bumping into a fielder is not always an automatic INT. ... »Turning2: BJ - I agree with you 100%, i just wanted to help the original poster ... |
9 | Sept. 12, 2022 | 605 |
Batter interference» Bigtimer40: Batter hits a fair fly ball that is catchable by the catcher. While ...»B.J.: if in my judgment the batter interferred with the catcher making the ... »Mikelmart: I would say no interference for now, let me explain. There was no ... »Mikelmart: BT40 here's a scenario to your scenario. Runner on first, batter hit ... »Donna McGuire: Interference is a judgment call. When it occurs at home plate, the ... »Bigtimer40: The ball was in fair territory about 3ft in front of the strike mat ... »Bigtimer40: @Mikelmart....In your scenario, I believe as a baserunner on a base ... »Mikelmart: BT40 thanks for adding a little more detail to both scenarios. |
7 | Sept. 10, 2022 | 595 |
Who's Out?» Rob64: Real simple question if the curtesy runner is on base and he's up to ...»JimmyG: 8.5(4) • COURTESY RUNNER COMING TO BAT WHILE ON BASE A courtesy ... »Rob64: Thanks for the rule! |
2 | Aug. 22, 2022 | 557 |
defender touching first base orange bag first» Larry S: I have read & reread the rule. If the defender touches the orange bag ...»Dbax: Why would the runner be safe if he does not beat the defender to the ... »4040club: Isn't there a safety rule where the defender must touch the white not ... »B.J.: larrys.. dbax is correct.. there is no penalty for a defensive ... »4040club: Conversely, What if the batter/runner touches the white bag first and ... »DaveDowell: 4040 ... The only "timing issue" is whether or not the batter-runner ... »4040club: Umpires and rule 8.4(1) Rule states "the batter-runner must touch ... »DaveDowell: 4040Club ... I am one of the Directors at the Eastern National's and ... »4040club: Thanks Dave, this was specified by the umps before our games in the ... »LeeM: Fielder caught thrown ball, throw pulled 1b off bag. He then touched ... »DaveDowell: NO, that is not correct ... The defender touching the orange bag ... »B.J.: LeeM .. I've heard of that rule in local league play..but as DD said ... |
11 | Aug. 20, 2022 | 1564 |
Legal pitch» rtaven: Is there any pitch other than 90 degree or straight up and down ...»Turning2: rt - on the tool bar on home page, click on "tournaments", click on ... »rtaven: Thank's, I actually had found the rule book pitch underhand.Webster's ... »B.J.: rtaven.. having the ball away from the hip is ok as long as the pitch ... »rtaven: So anything below 90 degrees should be considered legal? »B.J.: I didn’t say that.. think of it as the face of a “old” clock.. if it ... »TimMcElroy: Borrowing a quote from a frequent poster on this board- I can't ... »B.J.: Tim .. now you went and gave DD a bigger head than he already has.. ... |
7 | Aug. 9, 2022 | 810 |
Equaluzer rules/# of homeruns» TXTrouble3: Couldnt find a rule stating this.... If 50 Major plays 50 AAA ...»TimMcElroy: You always play to the HR rule of the lower rated team. In this ... »TXTrouble3: Thanks for your input Tim. Juat couldn't find it anywheres in ... »Donna McGuire: This is covered in rule 13.3(8)E., part of which says: “If there is a ... »Mark Peevey: The homerun rule should be changed! Why are you punishing the Major ... »TimMcElroy: Everyone walked in the door under the assumption that they were ... |
5 | Aug. 2, 2022 | 794 |
What’s your call» stick8: This happened in a game I was umpiring a couple weeks ago. Young man ...»txnighttrain: 1) Had the lead runner on 2nd already scored? If so, then then the ... »stick8: Answers: 1) Yes, the runner had legally scored before the ball ... »Scott Harder: Seems absurd that someone would throw the ball like that, but you did ... »stick8: Scott, it was a Mens E tournament and I totally agree with your ... |
4 | Aug. 2, 2022 | 692 |
Player awarded a base» scrub21: How many bases is a runner on first base awarded when there is a fly ...»B.J.: scrub.. normally you would use the SSUSA rule I posted below .. in ... »Donna McGuire: It doesn’t matter what direction the runner is going. Even though he ... »Dbax: I agree with Donna. »B.J.: Donna Thx.. my mistake .. senior moment .. lol .. I was thinking of ... »stick8: Donna is correct. The easy way to think of this is: 1) a throw from ... »DJ12: I read this rule as two bases, however, I believe the intent is two ... »Crusher23: I love this question because it happened to my team in league play ... »B.J.: crusher.. you are correct it is a dead ball if the ball is thrown out ... »Donna McGuire: Posters in this thread have referenced two different aspects of the ... »stick8: Crusher I had a play just last week like what was described. Runner ... »stick8: Crusher when you say tthat once the ball is out of play the runner ... »Crusher23: You are probably right Stick. My assumption is that as soon as the ... »stick8: Your assumption is technically correct Crusher. Had a play last ... |
13 | Aug. 2, 2022 | 1191 |
Player released and playing on another team in same age group» txnighttrain: My understanding of this rule is a player can play in his age group ...»wdodge22: TX You are correct in your understanding with the one ... |
1 | July 31, 2022 | 691 |
pitching arc.» garyheifner: Moved to the villages Florida in Nov. Some 3000 men plus women play ...»B.J.: gary... lol I've lived in The Villages for 20 years and have seen ... |
1 | July 30, 2022 | 722 |