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Pinch Hitter

» DJ12: Scenario: new pitcher comes into the game top of 5. At the bottom ...
      »mck71: DJ - OK, so good question and I assume someone with specific SSUSA ...
      »DJ12: Thanks mck71
      »k man: Was the new pitcher a substitute for the original pitcher? If so and ...
      »B.J.: they are not pitch hitters they are considered substitutes and a ...
      »B.J.: 4.7 • SUBSTITUTES A substitute may take the place of a player whose ...
      »mck71: Thx BJ. I was thinking that according to OP, the manager realized ...
      »B.J.: No, neither pitcher can re-enter at the pitching position ... pitcher ...
      »Rob64: What is the rule number for a pitcher leaving that position and going ...
      »B.J.: Rob64, my mistake yes the starting pitcher may re-enter.. I was ...
      »DJ12: Thanks everyone, this was an interesting conversation. So you know, ...
10 Nov. 27, 2022 1116

CHANGE IN POLICY FOR PLAYERS COMPETING IN TWO AGE GROUPS

» Mountain Man: How about the reverse? If a player is 65M+, would he still be ...
      »DaveDowell: Please re-read the SSUSA statement carefully ... It applies ONLY to ...
      »Webbie25: I think this is an excellent move. We have several players in our ...
      »Rob64: We have several players in our area that have always played that way, ...
      »DaveDowell: SSUSA tracks all player history and the rating(s) of the team(s) they ...
      »titanhd: A player playing 60 M which has a rating index of 6 can play on any ...
      »DaveDowell: ...so long as he's otherwise eligible as to age, residency and ...
      »Puppydog44: GREAT RULE SSUSA!!!
      »Rob64: Just curious Puppydog44 how is this a great rule? Just asking how ...
      »LMR: In the Midwest (Wisconsin) we do not have the player pool other areas ...
      »Rob64: LMR give an example of how it would benefit your team by age and ...
      »christom10: ROB64. A team has 5 guys who play 40M. Under the old rule those ...
      »HSquared: christom10 (et al) Would it then also seem to reason that the newly ...
      »Rob64: christom10 same example I gave to LMR above your comment? Right just ...
      »Rob64: In my statement the 60AAA players should have been rated 60M.
      »Rob64: 6 40 year olds can't play 50s if thier not of age.
      »DaveDowell: Rob64 ... Let's make this hypothetical example really simple so even ...
      »Rob64: Thanks Dave. I understand and also know that's how it's been played ...
      »DaveDowell: I'm not sure about that having been "officially" the case in Michigan ...
      »Bruce M: I think this is a great change to an already great policy. SSUSA has ...
      »christom10: HSquared. In your scenario, no. 5 50 major guys who all drop down ...
      »Sandman: What about playing down an age division. Can a 65M team add two 60M ...
21 Nov. 18, 2022 2608

ow to appeal a call

» JBTexas : DD, we can't find anything in the current rulebook that tells the ...
      »Donna McGuire: JBTexas, can you be more specific on what you are appealing? (There ...
      »JBTexas : Dead ball, appealing runner leaving second to early what steps does ...
      »mad dog: so your saying the runner left before the pitcher pitched the ...
      »B.J.: JB.. below are the types of appeals that can be made.. If your appeal ...
      »JBTexas : Runner left to soon on a fly to outfield, runner advances and umpire ...
      »B.J.: JB.. a full explanation was given above.. and a pitcher is not ...
      »mck71: JB - old dead ball appeal methodology required the pitcher to be on ...
      »JBTexas : I agree with everything you stated but most time it is the pitcher ...
      »mck71: Understood. We are old men stuck in our old ways. LOL Simply let ...
      »stick8: Dead ball appeal used be next batter in the box, pitcher on the mound ...
10 Nov. 2, 2022 1271

Age breakdowns going forward

» kuuup22: As my team moves to age 75 Team next year, I realize there are some ...
      »DaveDowell: The SSUSA National Rules Committee meets once a year, at the annual ...
      »Michael Plunkett: Will rules committee being taking up in late November allowing 70 ...
      »wdodge22: Hijacking the thread a bit... DD if I cant make it to the Rules ...
      »DaveDowell: Hi Bill ... You can get an item on the list for possible inclusion on ...
      »wdodge22: Thank you Dave.
      »Michael Plunkett: Dave, I just had a player tell me that SSUSA rules were just changed ...
      »DaveDowell: Michael ... Whoever told you that has made a reckless, false ...
      »Michael Plunkett: Thank you
8 Oct. 19, 2022 1562

CHANGE IN POLICY FOR PLAYERS COMPETING IN TWO AGE GROUPS

» SSUSA Staff: A SSUSA study of players competing on teams in two age groups has ...
0 Oct. 7, 2022 1460

starting with less than 11

» LMR: In 65 and above. Team only has 10 players to start game with 11th on ...
      »B.J.: LMR.. you stated 65 and above ..there are 2 slightly different rules ...
      »LMR: Thank you B.J. Just for the sake of completeness 65's now play with ...
      »B.J.: LMR.. yes I forgot that rule was just amended to 11 for 65's last ...
3 Oct. 6, 2022 860

Runner returning to first base to avoid force out

» RetiredDawgs: Situation: Runner on 1st base. Batter hits a fly ball to the ...
      »DaveDowell: OUT ... After any initial play at first base involving a ...
      »Rob64: Dave... do you know the rule number? Not saying your wrong just ...
      »DaveDowell: §8.4(1) • BATTER-RUNNER REACHING FIRST BASE Each batter must reach ...
3 Sept. 30, 2022 1089

(65)

» bringiton: I just got playing with a 65s get to the park and they had our ...
0 Sept. 20, 2022 820

runner interference

» rtaven: 8.7 page 52 says "a runner must make every effort to avoid collision ...
      »B.J.: rtaven.. you did not give a scenario .. it would depend on the actual ...
      »rtaven: Batted ball hit pitcher and rolled toward 2nd baseman,2nd baseman ran ...
      »B.J.: rtaven.. on your scenario the ball went off the pitcher which most ...
      »Bigtimer40: I agree with BJ on this one. The ball is still considered a batted ...
      »Donna McGuire: I disagree with B.J. and Bigtimer40 on this one. Once the ball ...
      »B.J.: Donna I agree with your post but I actually was saying the same ...
      »Turning2: The original poster is asking for clarity for SSUSA rule book ...
      »B.J.: T2.. a runner bumping into a fielder is not always an automatic INT. ...
      »Turning2: BJ - I agree with you 100%, i just wanted to help the original poster ...
9 Sept. 12, 2022 965

Batter interference

» Bigtimer40: Batter hits a fair fly ball that is catchable by the catcher. While ...
      »B.J.: if in my judgment the batter interferred with the catcher making the ...
      »Mikelmart: I would say no interference for now, let me explain. There was no ...
      »Mikelmart: BT40 here's a scenario to your scenario. Runner on first, batter hit ...
      »Donna McGuire: Interference is a judgment call. When it occurs at home plate, the ...
      »Bigtimer40: The ball was in fair territory about 3ft in front of the strike mat ...
      »Bigtimer40: @Mikelmart....In your scenario, I believe as a baserunner on a base ...
      »Mikelmart: BT40 thanks for adding a little more detail to both scenarios.
7 Sept. 10, 2022 1016

Who's Out?

» Rob64: Real simple question if the curtesy runner is on base and he's up to ...
      »JimmyG: 8.5(4) • COURTESY RUNNER COMING TO BAT WHILE ON BASE A courtesy ...
      »Rob64: Thanks for the rule!
2 Aug. 22, 2022 913

defender touching first base orange bag first

» Larry S: I have read & reread the rule. If the defender touches the orange bag ...
      »Dbax: Why would the runner be safe if he does not beat the defender to the ...
      »4040club: Isn't there a safety rule where the defender must touch the white not ...
      »B.J.: larrys.. dbax is correct.. there is no penalty for a defensive ...
      »4040club: Conversely, What if the batter/runner touches the white bag first and ...
      »DaveDowell: 4040 ... The only "timing issue" is whether or not the batter-runner ...
      »4040club: Umpires and rule 8.4(1) Rule states "the batter-runner must touch ...
      »DaveDowell: 4040Club ... I am one of the Directors at the Eastern National's and ...
      »4040club: Thanks Dave, this was specified by the umps before our games in the ...
      »LeeM: Fielder caught thrown ball, throw pulled 1b off bag. He then touched ...
      »DaveDowell: NO, that is not correct ... The defender touching the orange bag ...
      »B.J.: LeeM .. I've heard of that rule in local league play..but as DD said ...
11 Aug. 20, 2022 2913

Legal pitch

» rtaven: Is there any pitch other than 90 degree or straight up and down ...
      »Turning2: rt - on the tool bar on home page, click on "tournaments", click on ...
      »rtaven: Thank's, I actually had found the rule book pitch underhand.Webster's ...
      »B.J.: rtaven.. having the ball away from the hip is ok as long as the pitch ...
      »rtaven: So anything below 90 degrees should be considered legal?
      »B.J.: I didn’t say that.. think of it as the face of a “old” clock.. if it ...
      »TimMcElroy: Borrowing a quote from a frequent poster on this board- I can't ...
      »B.J.: Tim .. now you went and gave DD a bigger head than he already has.. ...
7 Aug. 9, 2022 1220

Equaluzer rules/# of homeruns

» TXTrouble3: Couldnt find a rule stating this.... If 50 Major plays 50 AAA ...
      »TimMcElroy: You always play to the HR rule of the lower rated team. In this ...
      »TXTrouble3: Thanks for your input Tim. Juat couldn't find it anywheres in ...
      »Donna McGuire: This is covered in rule 13.3(8)E., part of which says: “If there is a ...
      »Mark Peevey: The homerun rule should be changed! Why are you punishing the Major ...
      »TimMcElroy: Everyone walked in the door under the assumption that they were ...
5 Aug. 2, 2022 1365

What’s your call

» stick8: This happened in a game I was umpiring a couple weeks ago. Young man ...
      »txnighttrain: 1) Had the lead runner on 2nd already scored? If so, then then the ...
      »stick8: Answers: 1) Yes, the runner had legally scored before the ball struck ...
      »Scott Harder: Seems absurd that someone would throw the ball like that, but you did ...
      »stick8: Scott, it was a Mens E tournament and I totally agree with your ...
4 Aug. 2, 2022 1040

Player awarded a base

» scrub21: How many bases is a runner on first base awarded when there is a fly ...
      »B.J.: scrub.. normally you would use the SSUSA rule I posted below .. in ...
      »Donna McGuire: It doesn’t matter what direction the runner is going. Even though he ...
      »Dbax: I agree with Donna.
      »B.J.: Donna Thx.. my mistake .. senior moment .. lol .. I was thinking of ...
      »stick8: Donna is correct. The easy way to think of this is: 1) a throw from ...
      »DJ12: I read this rule as two bases, however, I believe the intent is two ...
      »Crusher23: I love this question because it happened to my team in league play ...
      »B.J.: crusher.. you are correct it is a dead ball if the ball is thrown out ...
      »Donna McGuire: Posters in this thread have referenced two different aspects of the ...
      »stick8: Crusher I had a play just last week like what was described. Runner ...
      »stick8: Crusher when you say tthat once the ball is out of play the runner ...
      »Crusher23: You are probably right Stick. My assumption is that as soon as the ...
      »stick8: Your assumption is technically correct Crusher. Had a play last ...
13 Aug. 2, 2022 1565

Player released and playing on another team in same age group

» txnighttrain: My understanding of this rule is a player can play in his age group ...
      »wdodge22: TX You are correct in your understanding with the one ...
1 July 31, 2022 1250

pitching arc.

» garyheifner: Moved to the villages Florida in Nov. Some 3000 men plus women play ...
      »B.J.: gary... lol I've lived in The Villages for 20 years and have seen ...
1 July 30, 2022 1072

Thrown ball hits batting teams bats along the fence

» marcster13: Awhile back I was chatting with an ump in our league when the left ...
      »rlspls1974: Here is an excerpt from the SSUSA Rule book. 8.4(10) • WHEN RUNNERS ...
1 July 26, 2022 954

Foul Tip

» jgoff5113: I need a brief tutorial on a batted foul ball that doesn't go higher ...
      »Bigtimer40: I do know that our league adopted the rule: There is no “Foul Tip”. ...
      »B.J.: jgoff.. 1).. yes 2) if the ball does not go over the batters ...
      »jgoff5113: Thank-you B.J. So my interpretation is correct. To state it another ...
      »DirkPitt: I haven't heard the term "uncatchable" before but I think I ...
      »jgoff5113: I agree with you DirkPitt. Another way to state it would be that a ...
      »cw: Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think this rule is consistent ...
      »stick8: BJ is correct about the SSUSA rule on this. ISSA and SPA I’m not sure ...
      »Nancy Allen: I only know of one adult association that does not require the ball ...
      »cw: Yes Nancy, that is where I was going with my previous comment. The ...
9 July 19, 2022 1862
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