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Aug. 20, 2014
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Pitcher does what?

Depends on the details. What are the runners like? What are your defenders like? Where exactly was the ball hit and how hard?

The most likely DP would be the standard 2B to 1B as the players are accustomed to this play.

In some cases in senior ball, the 3B then home would be the best play. It's a "force" play and a runner can't really beat a run down in that situation.

The least likely DP would be home first because....well catchers are not know for their arm strength.
Aug. 20, 2014
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: toughest position

There is no question that the pitcher is going to get the "hardest" (quickest)shots so that is the most dangerous position.

There is also no question that the OF is the most physically demanding for OG's. Hell, just chasing a couple foul ball leaves me winded.
Aug. 20, 2014
Joncon
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: You Make the Call

And the verbal declaration was alikely the deciding factor but doesn't necessarily cancel the IFR. Maybe the SS was close by.
Aug. 20, 2014
Joncon
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: You Make the Call

IFR not in effect. The player can't make the play with ordinary effort.

As far as the timing of the call, there can be MANY factors involved and, since we are talking about maybe a second to think about it and make a decision, it's just something left to the umpire.


The ball goes up and it seems playable but the ump sees 3B fighting the sun so maybe he hesitates a second and then hears 3B say he can't see it so the IFR is off.
Aug. 7, 2012
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Prostate Inquiry

Remember, as a preemptive strike, a happy prostate is a healthy prostate. There is only one mechanism to keep it in shape so, use it or lose it.
June 29, 2012
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Is winning the most important thing?

""Joncon, What could be more important? So you don't play with scoreboards or standings?""

1. The social aspect. I have met hundreds/thousands of people playing ball, Some of them have become really close friends. Others, not so much but I still appreciated the experience.

2. The personal competitive aspect. Even though it's a team sport, I enjoy a loss if I played really well. Hell, I sometimes enjoy a loss if it was a really good game on both sides. Someone has to lose and there are only two teams out there.

3. The overall entertainment value is priceless. Whether it's something spectacular like a defensive web gem or an out of the blue 20 run inning or something funny like the ump trying to eject someone from another field or some clown getting tossed for going kicking dirt.


I play with scoreboards and standings. That's what fuels the game. It's really no fun without them but, the real reason I think most of us play is simply because we love the game.


It's also a great excuse to drink beer.
June 26, 2012
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Is winning the most important thing?

If winning was the most important thing, I would have quit playing LONG ago.
June 26, 2012
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Walk-off Rule

That rule is completely stupid as is whoever devised it.

The rule should SIMPLY be, you can't go one up the bottom of the last inning.

Not rocket science. No team should have an advantage over another. An extra HR is an obvious advantage.

Can't win on a one up HR??? What were they thinking with that gem.
June 15, 2012
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: On Base Percentage (OBP)

I'm with the majority here who's only consideration is, if you got on base without causing an out. The reason is simplicity. I am extremely lazy and my goal in life has always been to simplify it.

Although it is a similar game, recreational SPSB is not baseball.

Everyone will have the same percentage of hits that were actually errors. If you don't count errors, should you count the obviously mis hit fly balls that drop in the grass @ 100'?

In the end, it's a wash. In one game, you could hit four ropes right at an outfielder while a team mate accidentally goes 4 for 4 but in the long run, your simple OBP will reflect your play.

I would also not protest if the DP was considered two outs. I mean, you did make two outs.

And, re: swing's proposed rule change, that would give an advantage to one team over the other which is something to be avoided.
May 31, 2012
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Talking Trash

I think people that start trash talking are fucking idiots.


That said, I will certainly verbally jump all over them if given even a slight opportunity.

Once in a while, Karma puts everything in line and the trash talking Dbag has nowhere to hide.
May 11, 2012
Joncon
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: How does your league handle this

If the a no contact rule is always on the runner, even honorable old guys would occaisionally take advantage of it. It gives the defenders free reign over the field of play.
May 11, 2012
Joncon
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: How does your league handle this

"""The third baseman took umbrage but in fact was not knocked down"""

At over 60 years of age, 3B should know by now to pay attention to the game going on around him.

He should apologize to the runner.

That said, I have done it a few times.....kind of wandered off, watching the play. I'd recognize that it's MY FAULT, even if I landed face down in the dirt.

What does my league do? I've never seen a runner punished in this situation.
March 16, 2012
Joncon
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Interference?

Runner didn't defensiely catch the ball.

Instinctively maybe.



Either way, good call.
March 16, 2012
Joncon
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: To the BOD of USA

An invisible circle won't protect anyone from anything. The ball will still go up the middle because, that's what it does sometimes.

If you want to slow the ball down, soften it up.

The problem is that only one guy in ten (the pitcher) has a vested interest. The majority wants to hit balls as hard, fast and far as they can.

Personally, I'd play the game even if the bats were fence posts and the balls were socks. It would be a different game but I'd still have fun. I'd even start pitching again :)
March 1, 2012
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Should you be able to go for hits between the second baseman and shortstop

Personally, I never TRY to hit between 2B and SS.

It's not worth it to me. I would feel really bad if someone got hurt. If they got hurt bad, I'm not sure I would play again.

The bats are too hot and the rubber is too close.

That said, with runners on 1B, less than 2 outs, I am probably hitting towards RF. I will occaisionally come around too fast and send it up the middle.


Pitchers beware. The last time I posted about NEVER going middle, I just about killed a guy in league play the next night. Remember that one Dan? :)
Jan. 13, 2012
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Tebow

I wonder what folks would say if a player got on his knees and bowed down toward Mecca after touchdowns or thanked Allah publicly?

I'm thinking they would be uncomfortable.

Personally, I don't care. I don't have any affiliations, I'm just wondering.
Jan. 9, 2012
Joncon
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Foul out to catcher

He didn't quite quote the ASA rule properly.

Foul ball and foul tip are different animals.

A foul tip is not an out unless it's the 3rd strike.

A foul TIP must go sharply and directly into the batters hand or glove.

The ASA rule says "A ball with a PERCEPTIBLE ARC is a foul BALL and if caught is an out". They eliminated the "over the head" thing5 or 6 years ago.



In USSSA, a foul TIP is a special classification of strikes where the ball A) went sharply and directly to the catcher's hand or glove, B) had no perceptible arc to it, C) was legally caught by the catcher and D) never got above the batter's head.

An actual foul tip is highly unlikely in SLOW PITCH. The ball is pretty much always going to have some arc.


Jan. 7, 2012
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Moving on up

Maybe Johhny Hose kicked dirt on the wrong shoes :)
Dec. 26, 2011
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: For the guys who still play with the kids.......

"""I don't see what purpose many of the changes have, and what they add to the game.""""


I can explain it very simply. You may not agree but you should be able to understand.

1) When the hot bats (Ultra) came to the market, people thought "holy schnikey, I can really hit the snot out of the ball".

After a couple of years,most organizations banned them but the consensus in senior play was to keep using them. The associations listened to the players who had purchased these bats and like using them.

As far as the bat issue, that's it. It's simple. A majority of the players like them. Will the special bats ever go away? I don't know or care. What I don't understand is why it bother you so much?

2) A few umps HATE the mat. They seem to take it as a personal insult but, this game is for the PLAYERS. The ump is there for our benefit. Overall, the mat may not be perfect but a piece of rubber doesn't have to concentrate and make tough decisions. Again, most of the players prefer the mat and that's why it is used.

If I was an ump, I would love it because it would be one less thing for the players to whine about. If they complain about a strike or ball, I would say "talk to the mat".

3) The second home plate prevents collisions. It doesn't prevent them at 2nd or 3rd, but it prevents them at home and that takes away 1/3 of the slioding/collision injuries. It does make the play at the plate easier but this is a high scoring hitters game so we can afford that.

4) The CR rule simply allows some of our broken down players to still play the game. It also allows those who may have suffered a marginal injury to keep playing without possibly seriously hurting themselves.

5) You didn't address the 5 run cap but I assume you don't like that either. Many times a game is won or lost in a single inning. Youve seen it countless times.

In a straight up sporting competition to see who is best, there isn't a need to limit runs but senior ball is geared more toward PLAYING rather than winning. The 5 run cap simply keeps an ining from getting out of hand.

Generally, we would rather go out and play 6 games on the weekend and lose the tourney than play 3 games and win. The score is important but it's not the reason we do this. I think that most of us have enough tshirts and plastic trophies.



Now you can say you disagree with the senior rules but you can't say you don't understand them.

1) Old guys like to hit ball far
2) Mat reduces old guys arguements
3) Old guys like playing but hurts to run.
4) Two old guys crash at plate bad
5) Old guys like playing many innngs


Dec. 25, 2011
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: For the guys who still play with the kids.......

Gary is not the hottest bat in the bag huh?



""""If they seem to need special bats, mats, unnecessary home plates, and run limits to enjoy senior ball, then how could they enjoy the kids?"""


1. No one NEEDS any of these things to enjoy the game. I don't care if is a mush ball and wood bats. If everyone is competing and having fun, I'm in. The kids game is just as much fun as the senior game and visa versa.

2. YOU are the one trying to make wholesale changes. These senior rules have been in place since before your coming of age. Maybe you should simply accept it and play ball?
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