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knob cuffs

» BruceinGa: Didn't someone ask about the legality of knob cuffs in 2010? I see ...
0 Jan. 29, 2010 174

Pitcher Protection Gear

» Rod Sweet: I don't remember reading much on this board about suing until SSUSA ...
      »Dirty: Maybe, but I don't see the correlation. How do you sue an ...
      »E4/E6: I'm sure thats where the Sharks come into play. When you hear the ...
      »Webbie25: I sincerely hope that no one actually stoops to suing over this, an ...
      »Dirty: If a player cannot see the ball perhaps he should take up checkers.
      »E4/E6: Boys, suing is just part of our modern lives. As long as our ...
      »mad dog: what i would like to know is,why does someone post here that doesn't ...
      »einstein: E. Not necessarily true. There's always ways to hold someone ...
      »E4/E6: Joe, I am only stating the way it is. Not how I would like it to be ...
      »Dirty: Doesn't play "our" game? What, you own it? And as I posted to you ...
      »mad dog: stupid is as stupid does,with all your so called education you still ...
      »#6: Dirty and mad dog: Give it a rest,or take it somewhere else !
      »mad dog: would love to ken but when you only get stupid responses to legit ...
      »einstein: Once two guys get into something it's tough to pull out of it as ...
      »DoubleL10: OK, who's on here posing as "Einstein"? Say it ain't so ...
      »Dirty: "being a Richard"???? Verrrrrry witty, sad pup! Sorry Joe, I ...
      »J R: We used the new mask tonight from Worth. has the heat protector built ...
      »J R: sorry head protector built in
      »mad dog: JR was it real bad when looking down,i just got one to use when i ...
      »J R: It was bad lost ground ball completely. But it does have adjustments ...
      »Mr. Manassas: I just got one of the worth's and practiced with it yesterday. Was OK ...
      »Omar Khayyam: I'm interested in the new Worth, since it seems to be the only one ...
      »Mr. Manassas: We have another indoor practice tommorrow. I can let you know then. I ...
      »mad dog: thanks JR,i'll have to give it a shot and see what i'll have to be ...
23 Jan. 27, 2010 654

New Pitching Rule Repealed!!

» Duke: This rule is repealed and we now have 2 pretty wise decisions in ...
      »taits: Good news on the Repeal, but HOW or WHO DETERMINES IF HIT WAS ...
      »einstein: Unmistakable movement in a positive direction and toward the heart ...
      »E4/E6: Cudos to the Rules committee for listening to SSUSA managers and ...
      »SSUSA Staff: The underlying intent for the new penalty rule is that hitting AT THE ...
      »JohnBob: Thanks SSUSA staff for the Christmas present now lets play real ...
      »butch17: Thank you to all at SS/USA and their voting members. Happy ...
      »Tate22: Ditto the sincere thank you's to the SSUSA staff and brass for ...
      »Corky: Cooler heads have prevailed: Maybe we "do" need the extremes to get ...
      »Omar Khayyam: Goodbye to the PPR and "No-Hit Zone" rule—they weren't doing much to ...
      »GI: I would have to agree with Omar, pitchers are going to be so covered ...
      »taits: I don't wear one yet bet have considered it and talked to about ...
      »Player25: Congrats to the the SSUSA for repealing the no fly zone. It did not ...
      »Johnny Hose: Cudos to the SSUSA Rules TEAM. You are on the right track ! Speaking ...
      »einstein: OK and Scott. Rome wasn't built in a day. Johnny Hose, a great guy, ...
      »einstein: OK. True balance and team or game chemistry comes first from having ...
      »einstein: OK. Also. It's getting old and you're getting personal with me ...
      »starry17: i like that they repealed this bad rule , but tell me is the rule ...
      »Dirty: Why would any sane hitter intentionally hit at the pitcher? That ...
      »Dbax: Exactly...Omar and GI, you don't have to wear any equipment. There is ...
      »taits: Joe, Where & how did Rome come into the softball game? But it ...
      »butch17: Omar, I understand where you are coming from. This new rule is ...
      »einstein: Butch and OK. Gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold ...
      »LP: are we now playing under the same PPR rule that has been in efect ...
      »Omar Khayyam: einstein, that's rich. I see that your last post is your 1716th one, ...
      »Duke: Omar, LP, and anyone else, What do you not understand. I cannot ...
      »taits: Duke, If I or we needed that, I guess we could split the rule book ...
      »JohnBob: The big picture about this repeal is that SSUSA is listening to the ...
      »Lefty: As a member of SSUSA I'm was glad to see the staff contacted the ...
      »LP: hey Duke sorry to make you feel so dumbed down but ssusa said ...
      »LP: could any one from SSUSA give the correct answer is the old PPR ...
      »JohnBob: LP-the old PPR was repealed 1st of December at the Nashville meeting ...
      »butch17: Thanks Joe, I'm glad to hear there will be no more hot bats/hot ...
      »E4/E6: Andy Theres a guy over here that wont stop with the "Lively" ...
      »Duke: John, I do not think that is possible! LOL! Andy
      »trumpball: Be careful what you wish for, you would be suprised what the numbers ...
      »LP: thanks JohnBob for a nice simple answer i guess duke doesnt know how ...
      »Webbie25: Thanks, SSUSA for listening on the no-hit zone. You have an extremely ...
      »TOMAR77: I for one am impressed with how SSUSA, has "come around" to handling ...
      »spoonplugger: Merry Christmas -- Thanks SSUSA.
      »Duke: Tommy, Any time would be great. Just let me know when and where. ...
      »softballbatman95: The only thing wroung with this is leaving the decision in the hands ...
      »Omar Khayyam: batman95, I'm afraid that if a batter does move his feet and the ball ...
      »the wood: The need to penalize a senior player for intentionally hitting at the ...
      »taits: Well what did we get? Two rules both, unreasonable for purpose ...
      »Webbie25: Since we are in a sue happy society, maybe we should all sign a legal ...
      »taits: Obama might even supply the beer.
46 Jan. 18, 2010 1478

Combine Major & Major+?

» Sisavic: To solve the problem of too few teams in the M/M+ divisions, many on ...
      »Jawood: We are. We would much rather play against Major-plus teams than not ...
      »cadogone: Perfer to play Major Plus, but their are not enough teams at the ...
      »wagon487: I say put major and AAA together.
      »E4/E6: It seems to make the most sense to combine Major & Major+, due to ...
      »BruceinGa: I guess this is about going from 4 divisions to three. I propose to ...
      »Jawood: There are only 18 50+ Major-plus teams in the U.S. and only 6 on the ...
      »TGIII: I see a lot of different opinions but the division that comes in to ...
      »southpaw: I would like to see just 2 divisions: A--Magor+ and Major B--AAA ...
      »stever: Southpaw, Two comments: WRT only two divisions - I think you would ...
      »JamesLG: Sterver: I think you hit it on the nose with "AAA". Take the lower ...
      »Dirty: Two divisions should be plenty. For those who aren't quite good ...
      »Webbie25: James and Stever, I think you have it right. 3 divisions would ...
      »Jawood: A lot of good ideas here, all are different, but one thing is the ...
      »E4/E6: I agree, some of these ideas may one float. Lets rememeber, SSUSA had ...
      »Webbie25: It's never easy with teams that are borderline. Our team does not ...
      »firestick: Would combining age groups work better? 50+ 60+ 70+
      »Duke: I still do not think combining Major and Major Plus is the best ...
      »Jawood: I do think combining Major and Major-plus is the thing to do but ...
      »DoubleL10: I have played both Major Plus and Major for 14 years. I played M+ ...
      »Jawood: We were forced to play Major-plus last season and didn't do too well. ...
      »E4/E6: Looking at the posts it seems there are truly 4 different skill ...
      »JohnBob: Agree E4,the problem is the major+ division. For a couple of years I ...
      »Gary Heifner: I play on a good 65+ AA team. In the midwest we have four teams that ...
      »JohnBob: I should have put the 2rd age group as 58-64. This would help fix the ...
      »JohnBob: Duke,I think 10 years is to much. in our local league we are the only ...
      »Webbie25: I like the idea of 50-57, 58-64, 65-70 divisions. Heck, we played ...
      »softballbatman95: Definately not in favor of combining 65's.We can't compete with the ...
      »JohnBob: W25. that's my point most players don't move up when they can anyway ...
28 Jan. 16, 2010 1111

3 new rules

» #6: I hate them already and we haven't even played a game.
      »Webbie25: I have to chime in, and maybe it is just because we have umpires that ...
      »Duke: I think the rules are very clear to those that have read them. In my ...
      »Webbie25: Andy, I agree it seems to be written as well as possible. We have ...
3 Jan. 14, 2010 594
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SSUSA RULEBOOK REVISIONS 2010 (Final)

» SSUSA Staff: The 2010 edition of the Official Senior Softball USA Rulebook will be ...
0 Jan. 12, 2010 800

Major+ Equalizer - What do you think?

» Sisavic: IMO, one cause of too few teams in the Major+ division: Teams ...
      »Jawood: Do teams feel good about getting runs given to them and then win the ...
      »taits: Jawood, As it is now, don't the rules require M teams vs m+ teams ...
      »smooth01: Last year, powers to be changed the HR rule to try and equalize teams ...
      »Jawood: We really don't care what the equalizer rules are. We were one of ...
      »taits: SSUSA usually has some sort of * § ¶ markings for those types of ...
      »Jawood: I was refering to the regular tournament, not the exhibition games ...
      »ShaneV: What if managers realized that actually they could control their own ...
      »ShaneV: Oops. They could even negotiate their own equalizers, etc., and then ...
      »taits: Jawood, I didn't think you were... What I was saying is what SSUSa ...
9 Jan. 9, 2010 376

Age requirement

» bluebelly: Am 65 in June 2010 can I play in a 65 & over tournament? Do I need to ...
      »Dbax: You are good to go now. Send in for your Senior card.
      »bluebelly: Sorry to be a dummy. What & where do you get a senior card. Send to ...
      »ShaneV: You can find everything you need on the website, if you know where ...
3 Jan. 5, 2010 124

just read the 3 new rules

» BruceinGa: At the top of the page. Thanks SSUSA for listening to our ...
      »wagon487: Way to go! Great job of listening! Thanks SSUSA staff, you know who ...
1 Dec. 23, 2009 183

Thoughts on no hit zone

» jwo-9: Just a few thoughts about the no hit zone. It isn't just a two foot ...
      »butch17: jwo-9 I see it the same way. Awful rule.
      »mad dog: jwo-9,yep.sometimes where i play(with the kids) they have a no-fly ...
      »pushin60: This rule is so wrong I can't believe they even brought it up for a ...
      »jwo-9: mad dog I can remember when as kids 8 9 and 10 years old when we ...
      »mad dog: jwo,thinking of the good ol days,yeah that was fun.hell we were doing ...
      »JLD930: I agree that this rule is crazy and the more they try to modify it ...
      »Dirty: Whoever said that safety is 100% guaranteed? Or that is should ...
      »JLD930: I agree that this rule is crazy and the more they try to modify it ...
      »JLD930: Obviously I am not advocating a screen but what they are trying to do ...
      »Brock: I don't get on here very often but I have to agree with all of you ...
      »taits: Maybe it's a precursor to another rule or addendum to No fly, to add ...
      »JohnBob: The sad thing about this rule is most if not all of Pitchers take ...
      »taits: There was a time, Umps & catchers didn't wear gear, batters & runners ...
      »Dirty: Scott, I still don't see umps or catchers wearing any equipment, at ...
      »Gary Heifner: Maybe this will work if the rule also states that if the pitcher ...
      »butch17: taits, There have been changes through the years in all sports ...
      »taits: Gary S, Point was that all sports changed rules regarding safety ...
      »butch17: Dirty, I disagree about first basemen more about guys running ...
      »Dirty: butch, you might very well be correct. Kind of sad guys at this age ...
      »mad dog: what prol is there with not sliding at the extra plate at home,ya all ...
      »Dirty: My point was to eliminate the second plate and just use home as it ...
      »taits: Two reasons it was changed; collisions (like at 1st) and hit by ...
      »Dirty: Scott, I still don't see how these would be anymore likely to happen ...
      »lazer larry: Dirty, i think the reason for the double home plate is there is still ...
      »mad dog: larry won't do any good to try and explain.
      »einstein: Gary, they say great minds think alike and I'm finding that we're ...
      »taits: That's way off and you know it, but I guess that's why Fast pitch is ...
      »butch17: Joe, Thanks you bring a smile to my face its been 35 years or so ...
      »JamesLG: Taits: I believe you are right in your statement about a shoc ...
      »Dirty: Larry (sad dog, you are still a D-bag), so those same guys won't try ...
      »lazer larry: Dirty, for 1 thing the kids can get back off the ground a little ...
      »Dirty: Larry, I see what you are saying. Personally I have not seen many ...
      »lazer larry: Dirty, good point, it's usually the guys standing flat footed that ...
      »mad dog: if they do try and roll ya at 2nd or 3rd,(if you don't slide) it is ...
      »Dirty: Sure it is an out if they stay standing and cause a collision, but ...
      »stick8: How many times have you heard a player argue "don't they have to ...
      »mad dog: but stick there is no sense in sliding to a base like that(home)as it ...
      »taits: Dirty, basic safety rule is or was down or away to avoid the ...
      »butch17: Lazer, Hope all is well and wife recoups quickly so you can get to ...
      »stick8: I agree mad dog but ever since I was a kid (and I suspect most ...
      »Dirty: stick, let's hope not but the way some guys seem hellbent on ruining ...
      »DMac: One thing you sliding purists should keep in mind is that at second ...
      »E4/E6: Too late Stick, Senior Olymipics has the run thru, has for many ...
      »stick8: Dirty a can of worms has been opened.
      »stick8: E/4E/6 a old lawyers league that I used to umpire that had that rule. ...
      »Dirty: Perhaps, stick, perhaps. The kids play on the same fields with the ...
      »Omar Khayyam: For years the Northern California Senior Softball Association, a ...
      »E4/E6: Dirty, you know what they say about OLD bones. Those kids have rubber ...
      »lazer larry: Dirty, it's funny we can have a civil conversation and disagree on ...
      »DCPete: The difference is about 80% of the plays at the plate are Tag plays ...
      »stick8: Dirty I have no issue with sliding. I've been doing it for 40+ years ...
      »mad dog: yep to all 4 posts above me,old bones break easier,heal slower,most ...
      »Dirty: Here is a democratic solution. Guys who can't slide, or who choose ...
      »taits: Since WHEN did ANY assn become diplomatic. Get Real. Just how did ...
      »stick8: I agree Dirty. Slide if you can, if you can't, don't.
      »mad dog: Dec. 19, 2009 DMac Men's 60 142 posts One thing you sliding ...
      »Webbie25: I would hate to be the ones actually writing these rules, because, ...
      »neck10: dirty why would catcher or ump need protection foul balls are going ...
      »Dirty: Maybe I forgot something, but where did I say that they do. mad ...
      »einstein: Right on Webbie. But when you let guys take the ball deep without ...
      »butch17: Joe, We have listened to your idea about home runs as outs, guys ...
      »butch17: Joe, We were playing in a tourney this year and when I went back ...
62 Dec. 21, 2009 1228

Will hope SSUSA relax their stance for older Major Plus players

» Lecak: For the younger players the CA FL border closure can probably be ...
      »sjuhoops: Thanks Joe. It would sure be nice to finish our remaining years ...
      »taits: Joe, Where do you draw the like with "exceptions" ? This almost ...
      »taits: Draw the LINE... not like.
      »Dirty: Reduce the number of classes to two. That will allow for more ...
      »E4/E6: Dirty Maybe 3 divisions would be more competitive. Combine Major ...
5 Dec. 12, 2009 268

IMPORTANT MANAGER SURVEY • December 10-16, 2009

» SSUSA Staff: Managers of Record for all 2009 registered SSUSA teams will be ...
0 Dec. 10, 2009 807

what the???

» AustinRelentless33: I don't get it. Almost everyone agrees that the arc and enforcing the ...
0 Dec. 8, 2009 201

SSUSA Rules Committee 2009 • Supplemental Information

» SSUSA Staff: For the purpose of further clarification, staff is providing this ...
0 Dec. 8, 2009 1091

Home Run Rule?

» Marv19: I'd like your opinions on the Home Run Rule. Do you like the rule ...
      »einstein: Yes, without a doubt for 2 reasons. It's the safest way to play our ...
      »Player25: Having 10 hrs in Major + will benefit the teams with money and a ...
2 Dec. 7, 2009 284

Hitting the ball with a foot completely out of the battyer"s box.

» Lucifer: I umpire and have had the following complaint when I called the ...
      »taits: 7.6C. When an entire foot is touching the ground completely outside ...
      »Enviro-Vac: I like your name :-) Batter is only out if the entire foot is ...
      »taits: One reason some try to obliterate the box lines, to avoid the call. ...
      »UMP IN NORTH GA.: THE PLAYER IS RIGHT 7.6 BATTER IS OUT C. WHEN AN ENTIRE ...
      »Dbax: In my opinion it is pretty much impossible to actually hit the ball ...
      »Hit the gap: Just my opinion but I feel that the only time a batter should be ...
      »VINNY LV: Dbax, ur absolutely rite.. Lucifer,, ur just asking for problems ...
      »Bob50: Hit the Gap, I agree with you.
      »Dirty: The box is the box, and being out of it is being out of it, no matter ...
      »Hit the gap: Dirty, you are absolutely right but I think you will agree that for ...
      »Dirty: I agree I don't see the call made much either, and sure it is easier ...
11 Dec. 5, 2009 546

PPR

» Wes: Did not make the rules meeting in Nashville but talked to someone who ...
      »turn2: This is still a bad rule. Just get rid of it and lets play softball ...
      »Tate22: Wes: You heard correctly. The PPR has been replaced by the Middle ...
      »Tate22: Oops, I meant "MNHZ", not MNHO.
      »taits: I think they forgot to take the pills for dementia. It's just a ...
      »DoubleL10: Personally, I like Joe Lecak's name for the new rule - the No Fly ...
5 Dec. 5, 2009 271

SSUSA Rules Committee • 2009 • Nashville, TN

» SSUSA Staff: Procedural Overview The SSUSA Rules Committee met in open public ...
0 Dec. 4, 2009 1242

ASA Pitching Arc

» Fred Scerra: I hate to ask this question bacause of the answers we will get from ...
      »Wes: We will know after Dec 4 meeting
      »Dirty: Let's hope not. I don't think people understand how low 10' really ...
      »Bob50: I hope not.
      »green rocket: 10' going to be some wicked line drives hit. In addition lot of ...
      »taits: I too, hope not. I would rather increase height as to drop it. Meat ...
      »southernson: The worst part of going to 10' is that you won't be able to get that ...
      »taits: If SSUSA really wants to stand out, why don't they increase the ...
      »Dirty: southernson, in all honesty what makes you think you can tell 10', ...
      »BruceinGa: Imo games that allow a maximum of 12' in reality are given 18-20'. ...
      »Bob50: Pitchers fault he gets hit. I wish I had a dollar for every time a ...
      »mad dog: yep ASsA has gone hog wild,6-10' pitching(like nsa),knob cuffs now ...
      »Omar Khayyam: taits, great idea for SSUSA. I second it. If NCSSA even considers ...
      »Stretch14: Like southernson said, ASA is 6-12 arc.
      »mad dog: omar you forgot the rock hard balls and super bats,so they can enjoy ...
      »Fred Scerra: As we are an ASA league we have been trying it indoors. What we have ...
      »Jawood: Hardly ever disagree with Taits, but I like the lower arc pitching ...
      »taits: Jawood, Thank you. My "experience" has been !0 foot is great for ...
      »Joncon: It has been my obswervation that umpires tend to allow 15' plus and ...
      »mad dog: i do think you guys are stretching it bit on the 18-20' pitches,i ...
      »E4/E6: Whats wrong with, see the ball, hit the ball. Remember what we ...
      »Dirty: Bob50, who else's fault would it be? The pitcher, or any fielder, is ...
21 Dec. 4, 2009 711

Throwing Equipment At Batted Ball

» Joe H: I know one is not permitted to throw equipment (glove, hat, etc.) at ...
      »local: When I umpired ASA, HS and some College I was told it was a 3 base ...
      »taits: SSUSA Rule 8.3 (11) C ASA Rule 8 sec 5 G
      »Joncon: You can throw it, you just can't hit it.
      »Stretch14: Taits. Not everybody has a rule book. What's the ruling? Thanks.
      »taits: Stretch, I don't have one. I search & read them, page 60 (ish) for ...
      »BruceinGa: Here's the SSUSA rule: C. When a fielder intentionally contacts or ...
      »Joe H: Hey guys, thanks for your input, it is most helpful. During my ...
      »Stretch14: Thanks BruceinGa.
8 Nov. 26, 2009 524
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