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Batting Box rule change Left handed player called out correctly, entirely within the ...

» Montanapnc: When the new rule was explained, at SG UT, I wondered why in the ...
      »softball4b: You know the best part about your long and winding road/comment. You ...
      »Montanapnc: Mike I get the rule. But in my world, the box was always the same ...
      »DaveDowell: Montanapnc ... As the Tournament Director at the event you mentioned, ...
      »Montanapnc: Hi Dave, Rules are rules and I get ease of enforcement. Over the ...
      »Montanapnc: I am saying that a player, hitting a ball to the off field, is less ...
      »Montanapnc: Its okay that pitchers have some advantages. I will just foul them ...
      »Nancy Allen: The batter’s box is one of those things that I call heart rules. ...
      »Webbie25: This is my 56th year playing softball. I have to agree with ...
      »softball4b: It is very simple, rules are for the majority of events and ...
      »Webbie25: I didn't advocate any change of box size. Where did you get that?
      »Enviro-Vac: The 3’ X 7” batter’s box dimensions used to be adequate before the ...
      »txnighttrain: Batter Boxes tend to disappear during a game. I have seen players ...
      »3_SoftballFreak: I am against this rule, it fixes nothing and ruins much. My team had ...
      »garyheifner: Sorry if I sound dumb. Haven't played a tournament yet in 2024. I ...
      »nickname36: "EXACTLY" Why are we always trying to change the game its just fine ...
      »nickname36: spelling error "COMMITMENT" not "COMMUTE"
      »3_SoftballFreak: If the plate is not a strike then this rule works fine, with the ...
      »garyheifner: I am an outfielder I pitch when needed. Will tell U I am going to ...
      »k man: gary, why would you reduce the distance from the front of the plate ...
      »garyheifner: What I am saying is if I have 2 strikes on the batter if U go short ...
      »ffdonnie: SoftballFreak has it right. I got called out for the first time I can ...
      »k man: Gary, yes the astute pitcher will pitch short and outside for a ...
      »3_SoftballFreak: Seems like this rule is going to stay for now despite the fact that ...
      »NEW TEAM: PLAYED THIS WEEKEND IN GEM CITY NO BATTERS BOX IN ANY GAME ( 6 games ...
      »B.J.: NEW TEAM.. of course it's up to the umpire.. but let me explain to ...
      »mark3a: Keep your back foot behind the front of the plate.
      »DaveDowell: ▲ Perfect answer in 10 words ▲
      »Dbax: Exactly.
      »3_SoftballFreak: ^These 3 answers do not work for me and my team^ Our umpire was ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Well, you've got the better part of a full season to adapt, since the ...
      »JohnO28: We spent the whole weekend in Dayton OH with an umpire who refused to ...
      »DaveDowell: JohnO28 ... That sounds a lot like a renegade umpire in play hiding ...
      »JohnO28: Dave, wasn't saying Mike allowed it and he didn't condone it. I ...
      »DaveDowell: "..wasn't saying Mike allowed it and he didn't condone it.. ... In ...
      »DieselDan: Probably his union is protecting his butt, but when he's no longer a ...
      »titanhd: Is this batters Box rule only an SSUSA rule or does it apply to all ...
      »DaveDowell: titanhd ... I can't speak with certainty to ..all other associations ...
      »Rangview85: Can a player stand anywhere in the box (both feet in front of the mat ...
      »B.J.: Rangeview.. I'm not 100% certain with the rule change but with the ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Rangeview85 ... The "batter is out penalty" is predicated on the ball ...
      »3_SoftballFreak: When and where does the rules committee meeting take place?
      »3_SoftballFreak: Looking here at the USSSA Conference rules we see this rule - In ...
      »DaveDowell: The National Rules Committee meets for several days at the ISA/SSUSA ...
      »3_SoftballFreak: This doesn't feel like a real way to lobby to change a rule, travel a ...
      »LC7: I remember the controversy last season when batters were called out ...
      »DaveDowell: 3_SF ... Well, you've got about seven months or so until the next ...
      »3_SoftballFreak: This ain't anonymous, you can see every person who posts here since ...
      »LC7: I will be sending an email about modifying this rule, but how are ...
      »DaveDowell: The email addresses used to get initial posting privileges here are ...
      »nickname36: "EXACTLY" Just go back to the way it was and be done with it. If I ...
50 April 26, 2024 2293

New Roster Rule

» txnighttrain: I am not sure how the new roster rule for tournaments is applied. I ...
      »SSUSA Staff: txnighttrain ... The rule is designed to discourage the practice by ...
1 April 19, 2024 481

Double Play - Does run score?

» JROB17: Situation: Runners on 1st and 3rd with 1 out. Fly ball is caught in ...
      »SSUSA Staff: YES ... Strictly a "timing play" and, as described, run scored before ...
      »Bear1369: Unless The rule is different in SSUSA... The run in this scenario ...
      »B.J.: Bear.. the run does count per Staffs explanation.. the runner called ...
      »JohnO28: Bear1369, You're wrong though. At every level of softball and ...
      »DaveDowell: Bear1369 ... B.J. and JohnO28 are both correct on this ... Here are a ...
      »WIF: In JR0B17 first post scenario. The only way the runner would not ...
      »Bear1369: My Bad Guys... I misread the ruling in the rule book. My Apologies
7 April 11, 2024 456

Changing a Number

» softball4b: I know there is a rule change about only whole numbers. Question can ...
      »SSUSA Staff: YES ... That's the preferred and most commonly employed remedy to ...
1 April 5, 2024 313

Looking for SSUSA age rule clarification

» kel: I believe based on recent rule changes, SSUSA is now allowing 3 ...
      »DaveDowell: kel ... That player is eligible to play on a 70+ team if he turns 69 ...
1 April 3, 2024 210

Batter Box Rule

» garyheifner: Sorry if this is a repeat-will make it shorter I stand with my back ...
      »k man: In order to be out BOTH feet have to be in front of the plate when ...
      »SSUSA Staff: garyheifner ... k man is correct ... As your hypothetical is stated, ...
      »mad dog: what i want to know,why is it that your punishing a batter who can ...
      »DJ12: This is a tough one for sure. This rule makes no sense as histircally ...
      »DieselDan: One of the keys to the discussions about old or new batter box rules ...
      »garyheifner: Thanks guys. Just did not want an issue at my 1st ...
      »Katzy63: I hate this new rule, and I'm sure to get called out a few times in ...
      »nickname36: "EXACTLY" I agree with DJ12, keep the batters box rule the way its ...
      »MurrayW: Katzy63, really? "decades of learning a craft has to be changed ...
9 April 1, 2024 668

Double play or force out?

» dkrollw364: Bases loaded and no outs. One hopper hit to 3rd baseman who tags the ...
      »DaveDowell: DOUBLE PLAY ... The runner who was on 3rd base at the time of the ...
      »Webbie25: Absolutely a double play. A few years ago in Winter Worlds, we were ...
      »stick8: Definitely a double play. DD is correct, a base is not a safe haven ...
      »bkb555: Just think if the 3Bman threw the ball to 2nd, he could have gotten a ...
      »Matty507: Clear double play. No explanation neccessary
      »DaveDowell: ...especially since there've already been three pretty good ...
      »B.J.: hmmm I'll go with 2 good answers Webbie and stick.. :)
      »DaveDowell: Damn ... Tough crowd in Florida! ... Ha!
      »tb08: I was on 3rd base when Webbie25 hit into triple play w bases loaded. ...
      »Webbie25: We all have our days. LOL I have actually hit into 2 triple plays.
10 March 21, 2024 1173

Player can play defense but cannot bat.

» Olden Slow: This question may have been asked before, but during a discussion ...
      »Matty507: My guess is no. That would benefit the team, especially if he is a ...
      »Fearless Freep: So, there can be players who only run, and players who only bat, but ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Matty507's guess is incorrect ... The official playing rules permit, ...
      »Fearless Freep: My post had nothing to do with ADA. Merely pointing out the ...
      »Webbie25: Are ' Senior Moments' also covered?
      »DaveDowell: FF ... Be careful when you choose to speak in absolutes ... We do NOT ...
      »Olden Slow: Dave: Thanks for the clarification, the player in question has a bad ...
      »Dbax: Wow, this sounds like Einstein’s ridiculous idea to have an offense ...
      »Olden Slow: Dbax: It is actually, it's Steven Einstein and he's from Arizona ...
      »Dbax: There is another Einstein from years ago that was banned from the ...
10 March 19, 2024 1050

Walking to pitch

» Jay10: According to the rules for pitching that I've seen, *No “walking the ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Jay10 ... This is very likely a situation of an umpire "..making it ...
      »Whitey10: During the last Vegas tournament in September I watched three games ...
      »curveball: If you get that answer from an umpire, just call for the tournament ...
3 March 14, 2024 1199

Pitching screens

» sam d man: Do SSUSA tourneys use screens like the other associations?
      »DaveDowell: NO ... Not for SSUSA sanctioned tournament play ... Some of our ...
1 March 11, 2024 224

Age Clarification

» jimmysaw: The rule before for age was you had to have your birthday before Nov. ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Jimmysaw ... We don't believe that in the past 25 years, and maybe ...
      »jimmysaw: Thank you!
2 March 7, 2024 328

Asking the scorekeeper for help

» RSF450: In our league play a two man umpiring crew got caught out of ...
      »DieselDan: Nope.
1 Feb. 27, 2024 342

Home runs allowed

» tall_thunder: What is the home run allotment for each skill level, and has it ...
      »DieselDan: https://www.deliveryoka.com/application/midjourney/
      »SSUSA Staff: The HR numbers you listed are accurate and current for Men's 50+ ...
2 Feb. 27, 2024 437

Batters Box Rule Change

» Enviro-Vac: Regarding the batters box rule change: “The batter must take an ...
      »B.J.: E-V.. the way I read the rule is that the back foot cannot be ...
      »DieselDan: Then you have a possible discussion with the umpire when the ball is ...
      »Scott Harder: I am OK with this rule BUT, I need to ask about a pitch that hits the ...
      »MurrayW: Scott Harder,it's the back foot that has to stay even with the front ...
      »Scott Harder: Hi MurrayW, I understand that. But in order to hit a ball well, it ...
      »Scott Harder: I would like to see the pitch that hits the front edge of the plate ...
      »Webbie25: Welcome to the art of pitching, Scott. The hitter has every advantage ...
      »Dbax: A ball definitely does not need to be chest high to be hit well.
      »nails: At last tournament umpire told me I would b out even on a foul ball ...
      »Webbie25: Nails-Section 7.3. Yes, a batter striking the ball fair or foul is ...
      »SSUSA Staff: nails ... YES ... See Rulebook §7.3 A. on page 41 ...
      »Enviro-Vac: I like the intent of the rule but might we be asking a lot of an ...
      »DaveDowell: We'll see how it plays out ... But for the sake of transparency, more ...
      »B.J.: i don't think this rule change makes it anymore difficult of a call ...
      »Scott Harder: I know I'm whining but, I have very short legs, which causes me to ...
      »DaveDowell: Major League Baseball non-pitchers, ranging from 3'-7" Eddie Gaedel ...
      »Webbie25: Scott-the actual distance in 39 inches from the front of the plate to ...
      »Webbie25: Scott, with the front of the box at 39 inches from the front of the ...
      »TooOldToFight: The average male shoe is a size 10. (I know because I polled 6 ...
      »stick8: Essentially this is the same rule we use in One Nation. We do allow ...
      »Scott Harder: Dave, clearly I'm well below average; thanks for the reminder. All ...
      »titanhd: Scott Harder. I agree. The ball should have to hit any white portion ...
      »DaveDowell: Scott ... I wasn't trying to single anyone out ... To the contrary, I ...
      »k man: BJ, you're point of hitters going opposite field and the back foot in ...
      »Full Count: I don't see any rule change 2023-24 pdf. All the rules I see are the ...
      »B.J.: FC.. on home page click on MESSAGE BOARD then VIEW FULL MESSAGE BOARD ...
26 Feb. 24, 2024 2049

I am 64 this year, can I play in 65+ tournament

» wiffleball: Want to confirm I am allowed to play in 65-69 age bracket tournament ...
      »TooOldToFight: Wiffleball, you can play in the 65+ age group if you turn 65 at any ...
      »wiffleball: thanks don't turn until Jan 2025 so will have to wait a little longer
2 Feb. 14, 2024 259

When the ball reaches the plate

» Randall: This terminology is used on rule 9Q. Does it mean when the ball ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Randall ... The answer is: When the ball breaks the vertical plane of ...
1 Feb. 8, 2024 423

Player releases

» vincemelo: After playing in a tournament with Team A (75 Major Plus) must player ...
      »Hacker: Vincemelo, as I understand it, a player is allowed ONE release per ...
      »SSUSA Staff: ▲ This is the correct statement of the general rule on player ...
      »9 ball: Hello folks..as I read that inquiry, can player switch to team b and ...
      »SSUSA Staff: 9 ball ... No player is permitted to be on two rosters at the same ...
      »9 ball: Okie dokie..that 1 time same age group exemption upon approval,to ...
      »SSUSA Staff: 9 ball ... The answer we provided above is based on the general rule ...
      »9 ball: Got it, tku for timely replies. George
      »Jeffrey97701: To be clear ... The player in question can be released to play for ...
      »9 ball: As I read this,no official release is required by team A in order for ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Jeffrey97701 & 9 ball • You are both correct so long as the exception ...
10 Feb. 6, 2024 754

Runner advances to what base?

» BillC48: A recent play in our rec league was as follows: Runner on first ...
      »DieselDan: Since the throw by the pitcher was the first play, I believe ...
      »B.J.: BillC48.. 1st scenario .. the award was correct 2 bases from time of ...
      »Jerry820: Diesel Dan how would like to be an Umpire for SSUSA contact me okay. ...
      »DieselDan: Jerry, When my goal of helping a team win a free ring and get to TOC ...
4 Feb. 2, 2024 422

What is the call

» Randall: a batter takes a swing at the ball and barely touches it but the ball ...
      »Randall: I found the answer. If not deemed intentional, the ball remains live
1 Jan. 31, 2024 306

What's the rile

» hitnrun5: Two strikes on batter with one to waste. Batter hits foul tip, ...
      »Nancy Allen: It is only an out in USA Softball. All of the other major ...
      »B.J.: it's an out on the final strike.. 1.29 • FOUL TIP A foul tip is a ...
      »B.J.: hitnrun5.. 1 other thing.. this may be a local league rule where the ...
      »Webbie25: Kenny, I looked it up also. 1.29 an out if it is the 'final' strike. ...
      »hitnrun5: It was an SSUSA tournament. The umpire ruled it was the batter's foul ...
      »softball4b: I think the question is "what is straight back." I did extend my arm ...
      »softball4b: and I am pretty sure Kenny meant rule or maybe not.:-}
      »B.J.: how can the batter have 1 to waste if he already has 2 strikes UNLESS ...
      »Webbie25: BJ, we were playing the standard SSUSA count stating with a 1&1 count ...
      »B.J.: Webbie.. batter would be out if he had NO foul to waste
      »Dbax: Even if you have a foul to waste, a caught foul ball is an out.
      »stick8: Unless it’s changed SSUSA rules stipulate if a foul tip goes over the ...
      »B.J.: Dbax.. yes, even if you have a foul to waste, a caught foul ball is ...
      »Dbax: If a batter has two strikes and doesn’t have a foul to waste and tips ...
      »Dbax: Should read even though the catcher doesn’t catch it.
      »softball4b: It seems based on the discussion, there is never an advantage to the ...
      »Turning2: With tournament using 1 - 1 count start, batter has a foul to give, ...
      »Donna McGuire: Picture it this way: A foul tip cannot be caught for an out. A ball ...
      »mad dog: first off what is a rile.......LOL..so once a batter has 2 strikes ...
      »B.J.: mad dog .. no to your bada-boom,bada-bing... I suggest you go back ...
      »stick8: Mad Dog I must disagree. Last tournament I played we had bases loaded ...
      »stick8: Oops correction, shortstop caught in foul territory.
      »nickname36: "EXACTLY" Why kill yourself trying to catch a foul ball when the ...
      »B.J.: the main reason the defense should let a fly ball drop to the ground ...
      »softball4b: Rabbit trail, off topic, bottom line - catcher has no reason to catch ...
      »titanhd: Never understood the the ball "going over the batter's head" ...
      »stick8: BJ as usual you’re correct. That especially bodes true if you’re on ...
      »mad dog: BJ,for one donna is wrong......any ball caught when a batter has 2 ...
      »SSUSA Staff: dog ... EXCEPT when the batter has a "waste foul left" to use ... Be ...
      »mad dog: i don't care how many fouls you have to give MLB has unlimited,"AS ...
      »SSUSA Staff: dog ... Since this discussion isn't with regard to MLB rules, allow ...
      »softball4b: Here is where I think the "unclear concept," manifests ...
      »mad dog: STAFF,so your telling me i can get 4 strikes for an at bat....and by ...
      »SSUSA Staff: mad dog ... §1.29 is in the Rulebook as a DEFINITION (of a foul tip) ...
      »softball4b: So why the extra level of confusion or determination. Why not; Any ...
      »Turning2: REF: SSUSA Staff Dec 22, 2023 post You have a bad rule (copied below ...
      »softball4b: what he said
      »mck71: T2 - I realize you are an attorney and therefore LIKE to argue. I ...
      »Turning2: Mck71 - SSUSA came up with 4th strike, not me. Your first sentence ...
      »titanhd: Turning 2,I agree with you to the pint that it is a bad rule.The ...
      »mck71: T2 - Technically SSUSA did not "come up with the 4th strike", the ...
      »DaveDowell: T2, titan and mck ... This really isn't all that difficult for anyone ...
      »Turning2: DD - sarcasm aside I can't find a ball, strike, out indicator for ...
      »DaveDowell: It's getting even easier than I thought! ... We don't have a 3-2 ...
      »Turning2: DD, I see the 2023 Rules Committee meeting under the Tournament drop ...
      »DaveDowell: The National Rules Committee met during the first week of December in ...
46 Jan. 2, 2024 2182
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