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WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF A FULL SWING

» 1jonsey: RULE 7.6 BATTER IS OUT E When the batter bunts or chops the ...
      »SSUSA Staff: 1jonsey ... The intent of the Rulebook 7.6 H. is is pretty clear: to ...
      »1jonsey: thanks for the answer, and i understand the bunt and chop part of the ...
2 Aug. 1, 2015 212

Rules of the Game

» stick8: Recently witnessed this scenario: Runners on 1st and 2nd, two outs. ...
      »OZ40: Stick, yes & no depending on the circumstances. As always, ONLY the ...
      »stick8: Oz as always your thoughts are spot on. And your right one on deck ...
      »Nancy Allen: Stick8, Utrip here makes the buckets stay at the corners of the ...
3 July 30, 2015 394

SSUSA Needs to review bat rule

» Hitemdeep: We had a total nightmare in our last game at Hemet this weekend. The ...
      »Hitemdeep: EVEN MORE PISSED NOW THAT I WENT THROUGH THE RULE BOOK! A bat with ...
      »Sparky.1: If Senior Ball (all Associations) would ever take my suggestion and ...
      »Hitemdeep: 383 views and only 1 opinion. So said umpire/player should be ...
      »STL0: If it's opinions you want, I'll give you mine. The bottom line is ...
      »Hitemdeep: STL10 I completely agree with you. My issue is the ruling was wrong ...
      »DCPete: Two problems here; 1) the bat Rule doesn't say it must have a 1.21 ...
      »softball4b: I have no dog in this fight, but instead of tip toeing around and ...
      »Hookdup: What division was this? What teams? Also every manager should carry a ...
      »Hitemdeep: I did not insert names due to we are filing a complaint with ...
      »TexasTransplant: I am sitting here looking at a 2014 LS Z3000 ASA Model. It does not ...
      »softball4b: What is unsaid is, someone probably thought the bat was altered. Now ...
      »Hitemdeep: Sorry yes some ranting but it's because he was admit about being a ...
      »DCPete: The rule book currently says any bats made in 2014 or later have to ...
      »SoCo#01: Ive sat by and watched this long enough. Rant or vent as you will. ...
      »Hitemdeep: Soco #1 you are wrong! Rule 3.4(3) All bats marked 1.21 bpf or ...
      »DCPete: The thing that you need to get clear SoCo is that the ENTIRE rule for ...
      »Semmy: @TexasTransplant and @DCPete You may want to have a look at the ...
      »BadCallBlue: Sparky1 as a SSUSA umpire and Previous ASA and USSSA umpire of 20+ ...
      »B94: Blue I don't think Sparky was criticizing as much as offering a ...
      »Sparky.1: BadCallBlue: Right off the bat, nice to read a reply from an ...
      »DaveDowell: Sparky.1 ... Maybe this would be a great "What I Did On My Summer ...
      »Sparky.1: GeeeeWizzzz Dave.............If you and the staff would take some of ...
      »joel 1975: sure your not from arkansas
      »joel 1975: texas t all of softball usssa,asa,nsa,ssusa,spa,& all other's have ...
      »joel 1975: just buy the bat's with ssusa stamp on it and problem's are over.it's ...
      »Dbax: "Current owner of the combined A.S.A./U.S.S.S.A. National Caree ...
      »Sparky.1: Dbax..... Was certified by both the ASA and USSSA with letter ...
      »Sparky.1: including ESPN
      »400: Dr. Gregg you should be out focusing on Win 1545 instead of getting ...
      »Sparky.1: BP is doing just fine 400. Had my annual checkup just last week and ...
      »LM21: hahahaha.... never played them before this tourney but the same guy ...
      »Hitemdeep: Scott Loensorf is his name. We finally got a ruling saying the Bat ...
32 July 29, 2015 2253

15" gloves

» 1jonsey: i've read the rule for the size of gloves allowed and I'm still not ...
      »Dbax: I believe 14" is the largest allowed.
      »Fred S: I believe they as they are sold on the site. It is ASA that is 14"
      »TexasTransplant: I pasted the section of the rule book pertaining to glove size below. ...
      »Bomber #7: Is the 14" Max. being enforced in SSUSA?
      »Fred S: I have never seen it enforced in any assoc. we have a couple of ...
      »1jonsey: my buddy just returned from a tournament and said a vendor was ...
      »taits: Rule book: 3.6 Gloves Last sentence spells it out Nothe th 14inch ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Quick note: The 14" maximum dimension is measured "across the top" as ...
8 July 20, 2015 680

Question on a rated player situation

» Bomber #7: A 70 Major Plus player has no team to play on, the only active team ...
0 July 20, 2015 238

No Lead Offs

» wdodge22: I have a question.... and maybe its been asked before and answered ...
      »B.J.: I don't think you would really want that...then would you have ...
      »wdodge22: Played League ball and So Cal Municipal Federation Tournaments for ...
2 July 18, 2015 338

ARC OF THE PITCHED BALL

» JimmyRedSox: SUSA Rule 6.3. The height of a legal pitch must be from 6' to 12' ...
      »taits: It's a ball.
      »Capt Kirk: Yes, assuming the hitter does not swing at an illegal pitch. Also, ...
      »BruceinGa: As far as our league goes, more pitches are called illegal for being ...
      »The Screamer5: Capt Kirk: That's only because as an umpire, I have a little more ...
      »TimMcElroy: Rule 7.5 B (pg 41) A ball called by the umpire for each illegally ...
      »lb16: In my short time playing senior ball, I am amazed at how most ...
      »k man: At least when it is called in flight you have time to react. In our ...
      »garyheifner: Being an outfielder/pitcher, I agree with lb 16. As soon as the ...
      »k man: gary, a couple of years ago in our senior league, the head umpire was ...
      »Sparky.1: Garyheifner: I'll take that bet on the calling of a 12' arc. ...
      »Nancy Allen: I can tell you as an umpire, right, wrong, or otherwise, I call ...
      »garyheifner: Nancy I got that inside pitch hitting down to an art. 1. You ...
      »D-Ballgame: @ Nancy Allen: ".....we should stay at 12' because that's what we ...
      »lb16: I agree with D-Ballgame!! How many years now has every organization ...
      »Omar Khayyam: k man, lucky you if you were able to play with unlimited arc for a ...
      »Nancy Allen: D-Ballgame, point well taken. I have always been 10 - 20 years ...
      »Nancy Allen: Gary, thanks, I seem to have mastered that. I just cannot lay off ...
      »lb16: Nancy you are right I was a little off ASA changed rule in 2009 took ...
      »B94: I've got to agree with what a lot of others have said here. The ...
      »neck10: nancy gate closed
      »BruceinGa: I only pitch in league ball because we use a screen. I've had many ...
      »lb16: Exactly someone who gets it, you don't know how many times I am ...
      »Nancy Allen: Neck10, that gate is closed, but the balls still go through it. It ...
      »Silas W: Reality is that there is umpire 'variability'. Always has been, and ...
      »garyheifner: I pitch between 1/3 and 1/2 of our games. I can tolerate an ump who ...
      »DieselDan: The plate ump walks out to the mound, they know their own height, ...
26 July 17, 2015 1613

Know your Rules

» k man: Our team was at Syracuse this past weekend. Tournament was nicely ...
      »Fred S: Many players, umps etc get the SSUSA rules and ASA rules confused. ...
1 July 13, 2015 254

diving across home plate line

» Tbone5: is it legal to dive across the home plate line?
      »Home Plate: Other than a runner losing their balance, a leg giving out o ...
      »STL0: We had a person called out at the World Masters tourney for sliding ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Base runners may NOT slide into 1st Base or the Scoring Plate/Line ...
      »MurrayW: This happened to us in Las Vegas in 2010. Our team, Austin Rock was ...
4 July 10, 2015 509

Seed Games

» baseballbill: If a team does not want to play any seed games, are they disqualified ...
      »SSUSA Staff: NO they are not ... However, here is what happens when they don't ...
1 July 10, 2015 497

courtesy runner

» 1jonsey: after a base hit the batter asked for a courtesy runner, the umpire ...
      »paul0784: Going to take a shot at this one. Timeout had been called so he ...
      »Fred S: This should be interesting. I would say he is out mainly because he ...
      »T.C.Sr.: Interesting. You would think that vacating the field would be ...
      »Garocket: Page 42 says this H. No runner may return to touch a missed base or ...
      »LeeLee50: That's CHEAP No advantage was taken.
      »SSUSA Staff: The Courtesy Runner rules are in Rulebook 8.5 (on pages 48-49). ...
      »Fred S: Couldn't find in my SSUSA rule book from 2010 so went to the ASA rule ...
      »taits: Fred S you loose a marble or something, the rules are under the red ...
      »LeeLee50: Some guys got way to much idle time.
      »Tim Millette: On our MTC Jayvee team we only have one CR.... Everyone else is just ...
      »1jonsey: SSUSA STAFF, the granted time out call was an automatic call the ...
      »Fred S: taits: I seen that but there is nothing there about a runner ...
      »curty: same general situation:runner slides into second, time is called, he ...
      »SSUSA Staff: 1jonsey ... As a practical matter, we only see the abandoned base ...
      »Garocket: I would have to agree with SSUSA Staff. When a rule is not ...
      »LeeLee50: I can't believe you are still arguing about the call. As it has ...
      »DCPete: It's worse than lame; trying to get a cheap out called on a ...
      »1jonsey: who's arguing, a scenario was asked, and answered by STAFF and then ...
      »LeeLee50: 1jonsey I disagree with you, in your opening statement you say we ...
      »garyheifner: Although my team often has trouble hitting, running, catching and ...
      »obagain: I wish the rule was if you are going to use a courtesy runner, that ...
21 June 24, 2015 1366

BATTER'S BOX

» JimmyRedSox: SUSA rule 1.5. The batter's box is the 3' X 7' area to which the ...
      »taits: Read 7.5 C it might help. Maybe not I don not know.
      »SSUSA Staff: Please see Official Rulebook 7.3 A. for the very clear and easily ...
      »taits: Was supposed to be 7.6 C
3 June 18, 2015 364

INFIELD FLY RULE

» JimmyRedSox: SUSA Rule 1.41. Infield Fly. A fair ball (not including a line drive) ...
      »taits: I'll go with the term used "INFIELD" as being a position i.e. ...
      »SSUSA Staff: If an infielder, in the umpire's judgment, can make a successful play ...
2 June 18, 2015 427

foul

» pibmkting: from your rule: 1.28 foul tip a batted ball which goes directly ...
      »SSUSA Staff: YES if there are already two (2) strikes on the batter ... Otherwise, ...
      »Garocket: Actually no unless there are 2 strikes on the batter. Foul tip ...
      »B.J.: Garocket....your last comment about...In slow pitch any ball that ...
      »Garocket: BJ you are correct but any fly ball that is caught really is not fair ...
      »pibmkting: WHY DOES THE RULE SEPARATE A FOUL TIP DIRECTLY TO THE HAND OR GLOVE ...
      »B.J.: pibmkting....this arose a couple of years ago when ASA did a rule ...
      »Garocket: In slow pitch it should not. This rule is a fast pitch and baseball ...
7 June 17, 2015 655

Which Home Plate

» Wes: Was a catcher this weekend and the bases were loaded ball hit to ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Wes - Bad call if this was an SSUSA sanctioned event under SSUSA ...
      »Nancy Allen: I have only ever seen SPA mats with a painted on home plate.
      »lumpy10: Sounds like you should have done what Clean Up suggested and used ...
3 June 15, 2015 793

new rule

» grayhitter59: Just read this new rule, don't really understand. Is the first ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Different penalties for two different infractions ... ALTERED ...
      »grayhitter59: Thank you, now I understand.
2 June 13, 2015 772

Rules

» downtowndobie: What are the rules difference in AA and AAA ?
      »SSUSA Staff: There are two principal differences between AAA and AA ... 1. AA ...
      »taits: So when did the rule change for AA , HR's... it used to be one then ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Before you did! [grins]
      »taits: Your right. You have the ability to edit, I don't. tis the only ...
4 June 10, 2015 594

infield fly rule

» hurdler52: Ok, bases loaded, one out. Batter hits pop fly to infield and the ...
      »Nancy Allen: What? When the batter is out, there is no force play at 3rd. Since ...
      »stick8: That umpire was WRONG!! Since the infield fly rule was called the ...
      »hurdler52: I think that the one who had a hot date was the umpire! I was pretty ...
      »neck10: in our league the ump's call that infield fly rule wrong the ball is ...
      »T.C.Sr.: But there is two key words he is supposed to say at the end: "if fair"
      »stick8: Had a play umpiring in a GM league a few years ago. Bases loaded one ...
      »neck10: stick you can't argue a rule it's a rule try to argue with a cop ...
      »neck10: we had a play in alpine fest in the 80's ball hit's top of fence ...
      »Nancy Allen: Stick8, good call. The most crazy situations that I have had all ...
      »stick8: Neck you mentioned a rule change. Shifting sports here to high school ...
      »Labamba32: Speaking of prominent players not knowing the rules, how about ...
11 June 4, 2015 1024

ball tipped over fence with no bome runs left, bases loaded, playing rules were ...

» tall_thunder: In a tournament where the rules were, 3 Hr, walks after, there was ...
      »dug8: Our team had the exact scenario happen 10+ yrs ago in NSA and it was ...
      »SSUSA Staff: In SSUSA sanctioned events, a four-base-award (it's not a ...
      »stick8: USSSA changed in 2013 to hit and sit for a ball tipped over the ...
      »Labamba32: Ok fellas I spend some time thinking about this and reviewing the ...
      »17Black: This just happened to us in Indianapolis last month. We were over ...
      »JT25: I think we should go back to running out Homeruns....what is this ...
      »Labamba32: I agree with 17Black that the runners should be allowed to just walk ...
      »B94: I'm not sure if it were the case in this scenario, but the part of ...
      »SSUSA Staff: The rationale for our previous response is this: The batted ball ...
      »paul0784: Wouldn't this have been safe to have all runners run the bases till ...
      »neck10: should kno the rule before you start the game!!
      »E6 in AZ: Neck, Have some class. Player had a question and asked. Don't dog ...
      »neck10: Im just saying you should kno the rules what if the outfielder hit's ...
      »Labamba32: SSUSA Staff - I guess I'm still unsure of your interpretation for ...
      »SSUSA Staff: CLARIFICATION In any four-base-award situation, "hit and sit" for ...
      »Labamba32: What is your interpretation based on? I haven't seen one bit of ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Labamba32 ... Our interpretation is based upon the totality of the ...
      »Labamba32: SSUSA Staff - You are making my point for me with your statement that ...
18 June 3, 2015 1335

Foot placement in batter's box before pitch

» maddogatc: Used to be that both feet needed to be completely within the batter's ...
      »BruceAZ: Maddog, as long as you're touching the lines you're ok, here's the ...
      »Katzy63: Not to confuse the question, but the foot placement before the pitch ...
      »mad dog: bruceaz....what assoc are you looking at....as ASA has it that the ...
      »B.J.: mad dog...this is SSUSA not ASA this rule and 7.3 are both in the ...
      »Paul C: I disagree with Mad Dog. ASA rules are same as SSUSA. See ASA rule ...
      »B.J.: Paul C....ASA rules are completely different than SSUSA here is ...
      »Dbax: You guys are saying exactly the same thing. Both feet must be in the ...
      »Katzy63: SSUSA Rule 1.5: The batter's box is 3-foot by 7-foot area to which ...
      »B.J.: guys here is the difference between SSUSA and ASA in SSUSA you can ...
      »Dbax: Doesn't make sense B.J.
      »mad dog: DBax....it is been that way for ASA and if i remember right USSSA...i ...
      »Dbax: Mad Dog, BJ stated that in ASA that the lines are part of the box ...
      »rrengineer99: so according to ssusa rule 7.5(c),see above, when i was called out, ...
      »Dbax: Yep.
      »FOFO: I ump NSA and the rule is the same as ASA. You must start with ...
      »B.J.: with the above posts (ASA, USSSA, NSA) I think that is why there is ...
      »Semmy: Okay, sorry if this gets misconstrued as being inflammatory, but it ...
      »Semmy: Sorry, I just realized my error. The front of the batter's box isn't ...
      »BruceAZ: Semmy, look on page 94 of the SSUSA rule book, it gives the ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Semmy ... Your "geometry is a bit off here, so here's a quick ...
      »garyheifner: This was a very good discussion. I saw the rule violated many times ...
      »Semmy: Thanks to all for the clarification. :)
      »garyheifner: A question: In the post by the staff, it is noted that a short pitch ...
      »Mango: I know there was a degree of controversy in Reno with "out of the ...
      »B.J.: gary....no you can't hit the ball on the bounce..it is a dead ball ...
      »Tim Millette: Reno was a disaster when it came to the batters box. We played ...
      »The Screamer5: Agree...the box rule is inconsistently enforced just about everywhere ...
      »DieselDan: I'd suggest that players who occasionally have this issue print the ...
      »Mango: Screame 5 I'm interested in your thoughts as a u trip ump for over ...
      »Katzy63: Why move the box forward? The rear of the strike mat is almost at the ...
      »garyheifner: Forgive my memory loss, it was at either Ft. Meyers winter nationals ...
      »Benji4: Most Pitchers stand 3 to 5 feet behind the pitching rubber so why not ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Benji4 ... This particular message board topic is a popular annual ...
      »paul0784: B.J.-ASA Rules are not the same as SSUSA. Just take a look at the ...
      »paul0784: B.J.-Sorry you are correct and Paul C is not.
      »Mario: Just an observation, since they made the plate a strike they have in ...
      »D-Ballgame: My question is, why is it SO heavily enforced on the turf fields and ...
      »SSUSA Staff: D-Ballgame ... The principal (and REALLY simple) reason it's "..SO ...
      »Garocket: Staff I have been playing for 40 years and have never seen a batters ...
      »Garocket: Your diagram in the back of rule book shows 4 up and 3 back. Is it ...
      »SSUSA Staff: 4' forward 3' back from the elbow pivot point is correct ... I got ...
      »Mango: Mario- that was exactly my point.
      »The Screamer5: Good question Mango. Common sense would suggest that the box be moved ...
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