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Oct. 27, 2011 DCPete	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Seeding Criteria at Senior World Tournament Dave, thanks for the detailed & mathematical explanation. I guess it can work out for better or worse depending on the particular situation. We were in a 2-day qualifier this summer when Mother Nature decided to punish everyone by making it 100+ degrees with hi humidity. After playing our 2 RR games in the morning, we started the 3GG at 3pm. Because we lost that game, we then had to play the meaningless "exhibition" 2nd game at 6pm followed by the meaningful 3rd game at 8:30. A number of guys on the team voted to forfeit the 2nd game but we decided to play anyway since we weren't sure if forfeiting would eliminate us from the rest of the tournament plus we would still have to wait around until 8:30 to play the 3rd game. (and for the record there were open fields available during the evening so total number of games wasn't an issue)
Oct. 26, 2011 DCPete	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Seeding Criteria at Senior World Tournament SSUSA; with all due respect it's much better to play an "exhibition game" in the Round Robin than it is to play it in the elimination bracket. With the 3GG, ALL the teams that lose their 1st game in the elimination bracket are basically playing an exhibition game in their 2nd game. And instead of 1 team having to play an exhibition game in odd number round-robin brackets, up to 50% of the teams end playing exhibition games in the elimination bracket!!! Seriously, let's mix in a little math here . . .
Sept. 24, 2011 DCPete	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Changes to the HR Rule - needs more thought Our team has been on both sides of this rule at past LVSSA tournaments & not surprisingly, you love extra HRs as walks when you're hitting them & hate the rule when they're being hit against you. A better rule might be to make the extra HRs foul balls; the pitcher still isn't put in jeopardy and teams aren't punished or rewarded for hitting the ball over the fence when they've used up their HRs. Plus it adds some strategy to when you hit your HRs and prevents teams from just walking up to the plate with their Ultras and trying to hit every pitch as far as possible.
Sept. 24, 2011 DCPete	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: 52/275 Ball MD; you might be absolutely correct about the Bat Shavers having no advantage with the 52/275 ball, but until/unless they actually believe that they will continue to shave & roll & regardless of the actual performance, it just sucks that this ball seems to motivate some to cheat. Just saying . . .
Sept. 22, 2011 DCPete	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: 52/275 Ball We've been using the Trump Stote 52/275 for 2 years in league play and a lot of the infielders say it definitely bounces differently than the 44/375. And our pitcher had a routine 1-hopper bounce up, hit the end of his glove and then his mouth resulting in about 25 stitches. Also saw a fly ball hit the warning track and bounce clear over the 10 foot fence so you can say what you want but it's absolutely a far different product than the 44/375. Worst of all, the 52/275 probably has or will cause an increase in bat shaving, rolling, whatever as players (cheaters) try to compensate for the ball's inferior distance.
Sept. 15, 2011 DCPete	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Round Robin last Saturday night Webbie; agreed an original, fully broken-in Freak (500+ hits)can hit with an Ultra 2 with the only difference probably being the Ultra's bigger/more forgiving sweet spot. Don't have any 1st-hand knowledge of shaved bats but they must be Super Hot/Ultra-like or they wouldn't be advertised all over E-Bay. And unfortunately, that would probably be the main problem if we ever did cut back, ie the shaving & juicing would greatly increase. Used to think that using Senior bats keeps players from wanting to use altered bats was just an excuse, but now realize it's a valid argument plus when a player comes to the plate with an Ultra the fielders at least know what to expect. So until/unless they develop tamper-proof bats, the status quo of Ultras & Combats is no doubt better than the rampant shaving/juicing/whatever-else alternative.
Sept. 13, 2011 DCPete	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Round Robin last Saturday night Unfortunately a lot of the young kids bats are now shaved, juiced and/or rolled so they may be just as hot, or hotter than Senior bats. In fact, would love to know from any expert on this board, how the shaved/juiced/rolled U-trip bats compare to Senior bats? And would really like to know which is more dangerous: a 52/275 ball hit with a shaved U-trip bat or a 44/375 ball hit with a legal ASA bat?
Sept. 5, 2011 DCPete	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Age Brackets & Divisions Combining the 50's & 55's like they do in Florida 1/2 Century should create bigger brackets especially for Major+ where a lot of the problems exist. Not sure why this isn't given more consideration but I haven't heard of any big complaints with this system in Florida where they've been using it for years.
Aug. 2, 2011 DCPete	Topic: Tournaments Discussion: There's so much wrong with Senior Softball - Brackets Don5, completely agree with you and the ridiculous thing is that the 3GGB only saves 2 or 3 total games vs "3 seeding games + Double Elimination" and at almost every tournament where there are 4 or more fields you'll see empty fields at some point during the day. The seeding games at least have some importance in deciding who you play 1st in Double Elimination or maybe even getting you a 1st round bye instead of that completely meaningless game in the 3GGB that up to 50% of the teams end up playing. There's no point in having a 5-game guarantee if 1 of the games is a completely meaningless exhibition game; it's really then just a 4-game guarantee. Come on SSUSA do the right thing & bring back 3 seeding games instead of making teams play exhibition games on Saturday or Sunday when they're more tired and trying to win a tournament.
Aug. 1, 2011 DCPete	Topic: Tournaments Discussion: There's so much wrong with Senior Softball - Brackets What SSUSA has failed to address regarding the 3-Game Guaranteed Bracket is that for all the teams that lose their 1st game, the 2nd bracket game is absolutely meaningless. This is worse than playing a 3rd seeding game which would at least determine which team you play in the 1st game of the elimination bracket. Our team recently found itself in this situation of having to play the meaningless 2nd game in the 3GGB and considered forfeiting the game except that we would still have to wait around to play our 3rd game and/or might have been thrown out of the tourney for refusing to play this completely unnecessary game (in 100-degree heat). This is just wrong on every level no matter what SSUSA or anyone else tries to claim.
July 8, 2011 DCPete	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Player Poll MD - curious what 52 ball you are using? We've been using the Stote 52 ball and it's been terrible in the heat; in fact it says right on the box "Heat sensitive - Do not store in trunk" which of course everyone does since where else you gonna put them?
July 7, 2011 DCPete	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Player Poll Our local leagues have been using the Trump Stote 52/275 ball (with non-senior bats) for 2 years now & it's an absolute cantelope when the temperature gets above 80. And sadly, while MD may be right about all bats being equal with a 52 ball, we've had way more rumors & accusations of shaved/juiced and/or rolled bats than we ever had with the 44/375 ball (using ASA bats). Home runs have become almost extinct and outfielders are playing so far in on the singles hitters that they are trying to throw the runners out on force plays on a clean single. Overall a very disappointing experiment . . .
June 30, 2011 DCPete	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Damn, we thought we had problems with team ratings! Check out this link for some real problems with team ratings (lol) http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/30/sports/softball-case-raises-question-who-qualifies-as-gay.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1
June 23, 2011 DCPete	Topic: Bats Discussion: Bat question - just curious With "balanced" bats like the Ultra 2, where do they put the extra 4 ounces in the 30 oz model vs the 26 oz model?
June 14, 2011 DCPete	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Pitching Rules Thanx Gary19; thought the comment was completely obvious to begin with but apparently not. Pricer, really now no one has hit over .400 in the Major Leagues since 1941 (when Ted Williams got screwed out of the MVP but that's another issue) but every decent slo-pitch player should be able to easily hit over .400 so how could the scores possibly be the same in both sports???
June 14, 2011 DCPete	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Pitching Rules Where did you come up with the idea that "Softball is supposed to mirror baseball games on the scoreboard . . . "? You don't have 10 to 20 strikeouts a game in slo-pitch like you do in baseball. And it's always been a lot easier to get a clean hit off a 10 mph underhand throw than a 100 mph overhand throw so there's just no way the 2 games should have similar scores. You must be thinking of fast-pitch softball except no one plays that anymore . . .
May 31, 2011 DCPete	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Legislating Safety Many of the worst slo-pitch injuries come from fielders smashing into each other going for a ball. Last year in Vegas our SS & LCF collided going for a pop-up. The SS ended up with a dislocated jaw & the LCF had to go to the ER for a dozen staples in his forehead (and he was already ugly, LOL).
May 28, 2011 DCPete	Topic: Bats Discussion: Aluminum Omar; you're right about 1 thing: the 325' fields ruin the game since the outfielders just have too much area to cover & routine singles all become doubles or triples. They should leave the fences at 300' & just make them 20 to 40 feet high.
May 28, 2011 DCPete	Topic: Bats Discussion: Aluminum Have to agree w/GaryH on this one; all the guys I know that stopped playing tourneys did so because of either $$$ or injuries. (or both)
May 26, 2011 DCPete	Topic: Bats Discussion: Aluminum MD; wasn't really talking about the metal bats, it's the 47/525 balls that will NEVER be used again. (sorry for the confusion) But now that some leagues have gone to the 52/275 ball as a safety precaution, no one will ever authorize the use of the old 47/525 ball again, regardless of what bats are being used. Going back to the older and harder ball would just look like a lawsuit waiting to happen . . .

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