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Mark Weber

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March 6, 2022
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Scorekeeping Question

One other point. Had the outfielder dropped the ball and everyone was safe, do you still give the sac fly? No,I don't think so. It becomes an error on the outfielder and the sac fly is gone.
March 6, 2022
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Scorekeeping Question

So, playing devil's advocate here, same situation and the batter hits a ground ball to the infield. The infielder boots it, but picks it back up in time to make the play at second. Run scores. If the outfielder can be charged with an error even though he got the force out at second, why isn't the infielder also charged with an error because he also booted the ball? AND, for scoring purposes, can you ASSUME the sacrifice fly if the ball is not caught? The runner still would have had to tag correctly and beat the throw. I think what you have here is a batter that lost his sac fly because the ball was dropped. It becomes only a fielders choice.
Feb. 14, 2022
Webbie25
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: You make the call

I know how to play it as I do play third. But it is a play that shouldn't even happen.
Feb. 14, 2022
Webbie25
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: You make the call

I've watched an increasing number of players use that commit line in a way it was not intended to be used. They go up to it and stop and wait until the third baseman comes up to tag them, and then they quickly step over. I believe an amendment needs to be made to stop this. Possible ideas-runner can stop at the line for a limited amount of time before he is out. Defensive player can make the tag past the commit line in certain circumstances where a runner has attempted to use this rule. Maybe someone else has a better idea. When it happens, it is not a bang-bang play.
Feb. 1, 2022
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Scoring Question

Awww, come on, guys. The guy circled the bases. It took a triple to force in the winning run. I give him a triple and I buy him the first pitcher of beer. 19-18.
Jan. 5, 2022
Webbie25
Topic: Teams looking for players
Discussion: TOC in Feb. 1 out fielder

Many years ago the question came up as to which state had more people to draw on. I researched it with available population stats.Tennessee came up number one at that time.So many states border Tennessee. I know I was surprised. Good luck.
Dec. 19, 2021
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Rules Committee Meeting

I waited for several days to see if anyone.....ANYONE....would comment on the REASON so many asked for and got a medical exemptions. No comments? Really? I know there are circumstances it is merited.........Your turn guys.
Oct. 20, 2021
Webbie25
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: major plus

Hi Dave-Steve Imlay was also interested and there are many more M+ players here in this area. I know it is a 3% interest, but there has always been a lot of talk. I will try to make it if there is interest.
Oct. 20, 2021
Webbie25
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: major plus

I would also like to be included but not in Sacramento. Maybe Phoenix?
Oct. 20, 2021
Webbie25
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: You make the call - please

Well, excuse me, Mr. Jim Perry. I was commenting on the original discussion about the checked swing, and not the comments that came after. I have seen that happen before and agree it needs to be clarified, because the batter/runner was called safe in that game. I believe he should be out.
Oct. 19, 2021
Webbie25
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: You make the call - please

Interesting discussion. I believe the batter is out and here is why. If you allow a 'checked' swing hit, there are too many people with good enough bat control to learn to 'check' a swing at any time and abuse the rule. Seeing an actual checked swing is very rare-I remember maybe 5 times in my career. It needs to go as an out if contact is made and the ball goes fair. Always.
Oct. 8, 2021
Webbie25
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: major plus

Walt, I get it. I really do. The moves I referred to were in 65 M+. There is no good answer with Timberworks as dominant as they are. You do prove one of my points, though. If you were younger, the hunger to win would probably prompt you to pick up a few guys to TRY to compete. At 70, you are happy playing with your friends and not so hungry to compete with the best. Personally, I get it and agree with you. I think I am trying to get SSUSA to understand that this belief is not as uncommon as they may believe. Best of luck to you and the Ancients in future years!!
Oct. 8, 2021
Webbie25
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: major plus

Sorry I didn't answer sooner. I have been on the road working. 800, (Walt), precedence is my guide. I watched R&R do the same thing. They went up to M+ one year, lost, got moved down for one year, then won at major and got moved up again. Usually they move at least 2 in a bracket your size. By coming in second in worlds, that seems a good possibility. I understand perfectly that you are a local team of friends, but you have to admit you are a darn GOOD team of friends. It will be an interesting decision, but I am betting you both get moved. That brings us back to my original post that maybe there should not be a M+ level because teams like you will just end up not going to tournaments you would have gone to as a major team. It does get repetitious to play the same team or maybe 2 teams in Mesquite, Vegas, Reno, Sacramento, and then Vegas again. For many, it is a lot of money to spend to play the same team a best of 3 in 5 different cities during the year. The idea to only assemble Major Plus teams over 65 or 70 for Vegas Worlds still seems to make the most sense to me. It is a tough situation. I also believe the teams are already beginning to make that decision for you. To have only one 70 M+ team for worlds speaks volumes. And please understand, if it was just me that felt this way and others didn't, I would not say a thing, but I hear this from a whole lot of players and teams out there.

I also want to address one other idea-the one that a team like Timberworks has to play 65 or even 60 M+ to even things out. My question to a lot of 70's teams is 'Would you play M+ if Timberworks was reclassified as a 65 M+ team?' I bet many would. Having said that, if you won worlds at 70 M+, would you feel comfortable being declared the 70 M+ world champion knowing Timberworks is actually a 70 M+ team and is the best?
Oct. 3, 2021
Webbie25
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: major plus

I would like to be the first to welcome Minnesota Masters and Arizona Ancient back to 70 Major Plus after their performances in Worlds. Walt (800), Az Ancient, you guys now have a chance to knock off the 6 time World Champs and 5 time Triple Crown Champs. I hope both teams give Timberworks a heck of a battle every time you play them. Good luck.
Sept. 24, 2021
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: More on Major Plus

I have to commend the class which both teams employed to handle the situation. Now we have a 70 m+ champ and a 65 major+ to congratulate. Way to go!!!!
Sept. 24, 2021
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: More on Major Plus

Timberworks wins again, over 65 M+ teams. Another amazing year for them and I congratulate my teammates and friends there.The athletes over 70 on that team are amazing. Way to go!!!!!!
Sept. 24, 2021
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: BP near sunset park

I was also disappointed at no maintenance all day at Sunset. In the morning the infields were fine, but they got very choppy by afternoon.There were several 'Oh, Crap' bounces that thankfully did not take someones face and re-arrange it.
Sept. 13, 2021
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: More on Major Plus

At the risk of 'stirring up' the hornets nest, I just found out that Timberworks must WIN the 65 M+ bracket to be considered the 70 M+ champion. So, in reality, SSUSA has taken my advice, in a way, to discontinue M+ at the 70 level for this year.I know this has been a difficult issue, Terry, Fran, Dave et. al., but I do not think it is fair to deprive Timberworks of the Championship at 70 M+ just because they have no competition at that age group. 65 M+ seems healthier this year so maybe 70 is the level to begin to only hold M+ at Vegas for worlds, and not have teams travel and spend all that $$$$$ to play best of threes or play down to compete.
Sept. 1, 2021
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Sunset Park

I always liked Sunset park, but the sun is real bad at certain times on certain fields. Take your welders glasses #3 to help see if you are in the outfield.
Aug. 28, 2021
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: More on Major Plus

Enviro-vac, you do have a unique situation and it is a tremendous testimony to what you have done as a team. I understand these 'fixes' that we are proposing may not be to your advantage. What would you do?
DD, do you really think Timberworks will just fold and say 'no more winning'? I don't think so either. What they have accomplished is amazing. Would you give that up?
I do agree with you totally on players that CAN play major plus. As we get older, practice does NOT make you better in most cases. It actually helps you keep from losing those skills as fast and the ones that can 'maintain' rise to the top. There are many guys that could compete real well in M+ but I find that after 65 the desire to play with FRIENDS for fun seems to be the motivating factor much more than the winning.
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