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Discussion: A SENIOR BOMB SQUAD?

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Sept. 26, 2006
bashbro1
Men's 60
266 posts
A SENIOR BOMB SQUAD?
Can it be TRUE! A Senior Bomb Squad in the making?

Well yes, as Ken Van Bogaert, (Bogie is a personal friend of bashbro1) of NORTHSTAR VIDEO PRODUCTIONS of Wisconsin, sent me a note yesterday outlining a preliminary team of SENIORS that could possibly make up a Senior Bomb Squad. This team of individuals would assemble and perform live in Seattle (i.e. Kent, WA) @Russell Road Softball Complex some time in the coming year. The field that would be used for the filming is the one facing the façade of the On-The-Edge-Café some 360’ from the home plate dish! Here a snippet of Bogies note to me…..

Art! “When I shoot the next video on swing flaw analysis, I am coming to Seattle and going to tape a group of 6 seniors...tentatively Art (*bashbro1, Kent, WA), (Tom of First American Title), Me (that be Bogie), and “einstein”, hopefully Clatterbaugh, Denny Jones (from Kellys), we’ll see.

Also I want to find a 70 year old guy who can hit it out. I think with good balls ...we can hit some on top or over the cafe. Is there a 70 year old in Seattle who can reach the 300 foot fence???? Do guys occasionally hit over the top of the cafe??? What\'s the best shots you have seen. Any young group of juiced guys can hit long...
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I want to showcase a senior bomb squad!.”
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…..
Bogie

Can it possibly BE!! Bashbro1 and einstein on the same side of the ball???

Bashbro1 (still looking for a team for next year to play full time with in the KENT area)
Sept. 26, 2006
Lecak
Men's 55
1012 posts
bashbro1 your a physicist the roof on the skating rink at that Russell road facility,if the building is 360' from home plate if someone hit the roof could you scientifically analyze the flight pattern and determine the coeffiecient of the arc to approximate a distance since the ball was probably still 50' in the air when it hit the roof.

Thanks Lecak I stayed at a Holiday Inn express once.
Sept. 26, 2006
softballer
Men's 55
560 posts
hey bogie so wheres this video you talked about?
monta litle
redwood city reds
aka c -man little brother

are you in las vegas this weekned?
Sept. 26, 2006
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
And Bash,
why do we do it?
Subject ourselves to all this STUFF?
'Cause chicks dig the long ball...

Sept. 26, 2006
bogie
Men's 55
154 posts
Hey monta, email me at 3bogie@mhtc.net. Need to talk to you.
Bash is a bit premature with the announcement but its a cool idea, especially with smaller older guys hitting bombs and with guys that are over 70 that can still reach 300 feet. Technique surelyhas to be good. I saw Tom Brusca hit in person and he still has a ton of power for a 65 year old!
I can't believe the amount of 50's guys that are still at full power including some of my Roberts teammates
IF you know someone of late 60's or over 70 that still hits long...forward the name and city to me..Looking to make this a segment in the swing flaw analysis video ( along ways down the road yet) thanks Ken, Northstar sportstechnique.com
Sept. 27, 2006
Nancy Allen
Men's 55
612 posts
We have a 65+ player here in Indiana that can still hit them off the 300' fence. There is also an 80+ that has burnt many left fielders even when playing for his son's teams. I have seen a lot of players hit, and these two really stand out in my mind.
Sept. 28, 2006
Crusher 70
Men's 70
13 posts
hey Bash, what we discussed at the field yesterday sounds good, especially using the equipment you specified .Here's to those long "taters"
Sept. 28, 2006
crusher
Men's 70
395 posts
It would be interesting to see if a lot of the swings are similar.
Hitting the ball over 300' is; (in my guess) Technique is about 50%, Power is 25% and attitude is 25%
Have a great day.
C
Sept. 28, 2006
Crusher 70
Men's 70
13 posts
nice to talk to a younger Crusher. Agree with your breakdown of reasons to reach 300'. The big variable though is the bat and the ball. Recently in Palm Springs we used the Freak with a 44-375 ball. Temperature was 101 and even if you got all those percentages together it did'nt fly away.
Sept. 28, 2006
Crusher 70
Men's 70
13 posts
nice to talk to a younger Crusher. Agree with your breakdown of reasons to reach 300'. The big variable though is the bat and the ball. Recently in Palm Springs we used the Freak with a 44-375 ball. Temperature was 101 and even if you got all those percentages together it did'nt fly away! Put the same scenario together in Mesquite Nevada in November when it's 55 degrees and you're looking at 350' + long taters forever C70
Sept. 29, 2006
Longballr9
Men's 40
48 posts
Lecak,

You forgot to mention Big Robert's bomb that bounced off of the roof of that same ice rink. Not bad for 51.

Also, Northwest Masters had 2 big bombers including Kenny Dain. I saw him go out twice at 365+.

Should be fun yo watch.
Sept. 29, 2006
metrojim33
9 posts
certainly one of the best over 65 power hitters in the country is Bob Moutrie from St Louis. he is capable of hitting 10 in a row out and mixing in 350 foot shots too. he also is a complete hitter and can hit both lines at will. he is out with surgery now on both shoulders and we hope he returns soon. he is not well known because he seldom plays tournaments , but he is a legend in st louis.
Sept. 30, 2006
bashbro1
Men's 60
266 posts
Hey Lecak! Nice to know you did stay at a Holiday Inn Express at least one time in your life which does qualify you for my triangulation (calc) exercise to determine the distance a home run would have traveled if it weren’t for hitting an immovable object; such as the case at hand of landing on the roof of On-The-Edge-Café in Kent, WA @Russell Road Softball Complex.

Some of the variables in hitting a home run are: the height of the ball, force of impact or batted ball speed, amount of backspin the batted was able to apply to the ball to achieve maximum aerodynamic ball-flight characteristics!

As we all should remember from Mrs. Robinson’s 8th grade trigonometry class, is that triangulation is the process of finding coordinates and distance to a point by calculating the length of one side of a triangle in conjunction with given measurements of the known angles and sides of the triangle formed by that point and other known reference points by using the ‘law of sines’. So we need to now some things like how far the ball traveled before hitting something; what angles were being formed at that moment just before it went careening off into the unfortunate people eating their dinners on the café balcony (NICE)!

So hypothetically, when a home run is launched toward the Café façade and roof areas, it forms what math dudes called a parabolic curve that can be interpreted in a series of triangles. Using our law of sines, the distance a ball would have traveled can then be calculated. This sine law is a merely statement about arbitrary triangles in the plane. If the sides of the triangle are a, b and c and the angles opposite those sides are A, B and C, then the law of sines states: a/sin A = b/sinB = c/sinC =2R. We can also use a more linear approach using the old fabled Pythagorean theorem of SideA-squared + SideB-squared will equal the square root of SideC or the hypotenuse of the simple right triangle.

This simple formula is useful to compute the remaining sides of a triangle if two angles and a side are known, a common problem in the technique of triangulation thus providing the unknown distance the ball would have traveled!
So, using the parameters you provided for finding the solution: if a home run ball hits the Café roof @~360feet at some 50feet above ground, with an initial batted-ball-speed of 109mph, backspin=128cycles/sec, and then extrapolating the continuation of the curve the ball would have traveled some 392feet 6inches! Believe it or NOT!

Not to fret if you have trouble grasping the above, it just means your probably no ‘einstein”!
Bashbro1 (A Member of the Senior Bomb Squad Team 2007)

Sept. 30, 2006
Lecak
Men's 55
1012 posts
Thank you Bashbro you did not disappoint. Good luck next year stay healthy.
Oct. 13, 2006
Crusher 70
Men's 70
13 posts
Hey Bash: Hope your team did well in St.George. We leave for there this Sunday the 15th. Had a good practice with the freak and decent balls on wednesday. I'm taking the green Mayhem 120 but doubt it will crack 350' like the Freak will. talk to you when I get back and we'll have that practice session. "Long taters forever" Crusher 70
Oct. 13, 2006
Crusher 70
Men's 70
13 posts
Einstein; if you're playing in the 50's division in St .George we'll both be there next week. I'I be in the 70's division. I'm the dufus with the mismatched shoes.
Look me up and we can swap lies. Crusher 70
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