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Discussion: Miken Ultra II, the NEW Miken Ultra II Advanced and the Altering of Bats:

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Nov. 16, 2006
bashbro1
Men's 60
266 posts
Miken Ultra II, the NEW Miken Ultra II Advanced and the Altering of Bats:
Caveat: Understand that everything Iíve written below in this thread is to be considered hearsay along with some speculation on my part. However, having said that, my sources have proven in the past to be very reliable.

1. Miken has STOPPED manufacturing the Ultra II period! Try and buy one off the web (there are a few but no 30ozs) other than eBay and the likes.

2. The replacement bat will be the Miken Ultra II Advanced weíve been hearing rumors about the last few months and arriving some time early Jan 2007 at the typical retail outlets for Miken bats.

3. The New Advanced will have a smaller knob to readily distinguish itself from the old U2 with the naked eye. Some guys donít like a small knob as there bottom hand slips off, so Iíve heard.

4. The smaller knob will be much more ďtamperĒ proof and along with a harder end cap that would make it more difficult to remove without inflicting irreparable damage to the bat itself. This should make it much more difficult for a bat doctor to paint an Old U2 as a U2-Advanced to cover up any changes made illegally to the inners of the original U2 like: shaving, inserting a titanium sleeve and end loading.

5. The New Advance will have brand NEW Graphics!

6. Durability similar to the erstwhile U2! Oh darn. Unless you adhere to the belief that there is an inverse relationship with composite bats between performance and durability then that's a good thing.

7. Priced from ~$190.00 and up to $200.00+ depending on vendor selection.

8. Performance for the U2A is suppose to be equivalent with U2 as they are rumored to be pretty much the same bat.

Again, this is what Iíve heard through the grapevine of Senior Softball here in the Great Pacific Northwest Region having accumulated 15.18 inches of rain since the SSUSA Worlds ended here in Seattle in late Sept.

Bashbro1 playing 60ís ball out of Kent, WA.


Nov. 16, 2006
Gripit&Ripit
31 posts
Bashbro1: What have you heard about the "Rip-It". Is gonna pass all the tests and become legal? What's your opinion?? Good bat, bad bat, ok bat, etc, etc.
Nov. 16, 2006
bashbro1
Men's 60
266 posts

Gripit&ripit. I keep in touch with some guys who are playing in AZ right now and they have used the bat and really like it. I donít know much more than that at this point in time but you could keep a watch on this web page address and keep looking for when the slo-pitch version will come to the retail sector.

http://www.ripitbat.com/

I know that the Combat Senior DaBomb are in stock and my are due here in Seattle this Friday. I'm anxious to test it out first hand as I've heard very encouraging things about it.
bashbro1
Nov. 16, 2006
BMoney
37 posts
I have used the Rip-it Sr elite and this bat is the real deal. Everybody that has used it agrees,It is HOT righyt out of the wrapper and needs no break -in.One of our Sr 55's was hitting the ball 345 ft right out of the wrapper. I hit it,it is very balanced.They only make 26 oz and 28 oz ,but my 28 swang like my 27 Freak. These guys are committed to making good bats and he said they were good to 38 degrees. Watch for the ASA legal model in 2 weeks.

BMoney
Nov. 16, 2006
batguyaz
134 posts
After this bat is approved you guys will find that it gives performance without the fear of ripping someone's head off. The bat is designed for a slower bat speed and is soft to swing. We use it in a few leagues here in Az and love it. So with that said, I agree with you guys that this might just be the best senior bat available to us.
Also I know the factory guys and they are a class act...just ask the grew in Sun Lakes...
Nov. 16, 2006
STONEMAN
Men's 50
535 posts
SENIORS:: The NEW SENIOR COMBAT, is approved. It is as good as the U-2. This bat will last u 300 to 400 swings or more, as long as one does not hit wet / heavy balls; or balls w/ a 525 comp.

The RIP-IT- ELITE, will more than likely never get approved in SS-USA or SSWC.

I hate to bust anyones bubble, but, the RIP-IT-ELITE, hits better than the U-1..

As of today, the RIP-IT, will have a hard time passing. This comes from members on the bat review for us SENIORS.

HOPE U ALL, HAVE FUN IN VEGAS.

The STONEMAN.......
Nov. 16, 2006
batguyaz
134 posts
Stoneman: Don't where you get you infomation from but I think you need to check it out more before you just pop off. The Rip It senior is nowhere near the U1 and you know it. I understand if you have favor with the Combat just I do with the Rip It, but let's no throw anyone under the bus. There is room for all.
I will bet you a dime to a donut that the Rip It will past and will do well on the field.
Maybe we should all, myself included, keep our mouths shut till the powers to be get this handled.

Al
Nov. 16, 2006
STONEMAN
Men's 50
535 posts
BAT GUY AZ: I try not to pop off. Yes, I have, in the past. The RIP-IT, may or may not be as good as the U-1. Believe it or not, the Rip-It, is being compaired to the U-1.

As far as the Combat, for me, the Combat last longer than the U-2. There appears to be lil' diff.' between the U-2 or Combat. I do wonder if, the Combat, will hit well when a 'sock' ball is used.

I would like to see balls & bats, 'toned' down a little. But, it appears that no matter what; any ball that will travel over 300 feet, will get thru the infield, in less than 4/10 of a second.

Again, I have been told by one bat MFG & several Summit Members, that the RIP-IT-ELITE, is having a hard time pasting the "old standards."

I maybe wrong or miss informed, but, the RIP-IT, has failed a coulpe of times. If, correct, the RIP-IT, is going back in for that bats third time, for testing.

BAT GUY, would u mind, telling us just, what u have heard? If, may facts are wrong, then there appears to be some bad 'feeling' going on.

LAST POINT: As far as the RIP-IT, SS-USA, is not happy w/ this bat. Al, Terry H., & others are in Vegas this wk. I will talk to Terry & other Summit Members. What are you going to do??? POP OFF..... I have gotten my facts straight. YEA, I find it hard that any bat can hit w/ the U-1. Yes, I have been talking to several of the POWERS TO BE.

The STONEMAN...........spend yer $$$... believe it or not....
Nov. 16, 2006
batguyaz
134 posts
Stoneman, sounds like you are in the know. I am sorry if I popped off. We had a bad run in with a SSUSA rep down here, a real jerk. So we will just wait and see. It's only a bat and not worth stressing over....thanks..

Al
Nov. 17, 2006
STONEMAN
Men's 50
535 posts
BAT GUY: R u in Vegas this wkend? If, so, I will be @ Doc Remeo. My cell #: (702) 449-1171.

A few yrs ago, I got stuck w/ some bad bats. That was when players were turning in their U-2s. I hope 4 all the players that have brought RIP-IT bats & RIP-IT'S manuf.' do become legal. I would hate to see all of these players w/ another bat that can not be used.

I am sorry, that u had a bad time w/ a SENIOR REP, in Az. SS-USA's concern is safety; giving us SENIORS what we want, w/ in reason; & that players w/ RIP-IT do not lose out.

As it was told to me by a SSWC REP, SS-USA, is hoping that RIP-IT will pass & no one, player or MFG, is out of money. Also, that the cost 4 a good bat is $ 300, that "this is just, too high."

GOOD LUCK TO ALL........ HAPPY HOLIDAYS....... SAY A PRAYER for OUR TROOPS
Nov. 17, 2006
Cognac Lite
Men's 50
32 posts
Stoneman, it's interesting to read all of the information about bats. You know that I have never been that knowledgeable about bats. Just give me a bat and let me swing. Whether a ball travels 330 or 430, it's only one run. However, I really do enjoy seeing those mammoth shots. I have never used an Ultra, not even during batting practice. After participating last weekend in Fort Myers, I may have to swing one for kicks. I saw some gnomes hitting balls that should have been routine outs. It was incredible. Okay! I'm sold.

Enlighten me, the other half of the booze brothers
Nov. 17, 2006
E. Ness
122 posts
You guys do realize that the guy that tests the bat for Senior softball is out of the country right now and the second test of the rip-it will not even happen until the end of the month. So to speculate as to if it will not pass because a bat rep and summit members have said it won't is just wrong at this point in time.

It may or may not pass. I have hit with it, the combat, and the U2 Adv. and they are all about the same. Difference is the Combat and Rip-it both made by CE composites will last longer.
Nov. 17, 2006
E. Ness
122 posts
Rip-it elite has decided to pull their Senior Elite bat out of testing so it will not be legal for SSUSA.
Nov. 18, 2006
CRUSADERVB
Men's 65
272 posts
GENTLEMEN, I WAS IN FT MEYERS LAST WEEKEND AND SWUNG THE NEW COMBAT. IT WAS JUST AS GOOD AS THE U2. BACK IN THE DAY MIKE MACENCKO AND I PLAYED AGAINST EACH OTHER FOR YEARS, MIKE IS NOW A REP FOR COMBAT AND HE IS ENDORSING IT TOTALLY. HE'S GOING TO SEND ME SOME DEMO'S FOR THE AZ PLAYERS TO TRY. THEY'LL SEE 1ST HAND HOW GOOD THIS BAT IS. PLUS HE TELLS ME IT WILL LAST LONGER THAN THE U2, I'M SICK OF BUYING A U2 EVERY OTHER WEEK!! WHAT'S UP STONEMAN? RU PLAYING IN VEGAS THIS WEEKEND?
Nov. 18, 2006
STONEMAN
Men's 50
535 posts
CRUCAD---: RON, no I am not playing in the SENIORS WORLD, in Vegas. Mike K, is @ Doc Remeo today & Sunday. Mike, has a bunce of the New Combats w/ him. Ptice is :: $ 190.

Thanks Ron.. The STONEMAN...

HO-JO... U BEAST, U..... LATER
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