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Discussion: Interesting Bracket

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Feb. 19
bedrock

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Interesting Bracket
Vegas is the biggest tournament in senior softball! How about after "pool play" start the seeding not only based on record and run differential but the top western team vs the lower eastern seeds on the initial bracket. Of course you have no control how things will end up, but it seems that every year teams end up playing each other not only during the regular season but in Vegas as well out the gate. You can divide the US or use the east/west of the Mississippi rule! Just a though! We (TSC) look forward to supporting you again this year! Compete and Fellowship! Stay bless!

Flint
TSC Manager
Feb. 19
bedrock

7 posts
Interesting Bracket
Top Western team vs Lower Eastern team and vice versa...Just a thought!
Feb. 19
DaveDowell
Men's 70
4323 posts
Interesting Bracket
Flint ... As the guy who wrote the 2,003-game 2017 World Masters Championships schedule, I have a few observations on this ...

• The seeding pool play games at the WMC are already set up to match teams that are not likely to have played each other during the year ... It's actually my top priority when laying out the schedules and great effort is spent on geographic disparity of opponents ... Unless it's a VERY small bracket, say less than six teams, you're simply not playing a local team in seeding ...

• The suggestion of applying a secondary, geographically biased bracket seeding criteria, while certainly creative, would be chaotic, at best, and render the pool seeding play somewhat irrelevant ... And then, as an example, there's the potential of the top West seed being from Missouri and the lowest East seed being from Illinois, and being teams that play each other often ... On a mechanical basis, it's difficult enough to seed the larger brackets quickly and efficiently, and adding another layer of complexity and calculation is maybe not the best approach, not to mention Directors probably having to make several 1,000 individual explanations to players! ...

• Seeding is not a complex theory, but the accepted process is consistent from sport to sport and clearly understood by all as an objective and mathematical function ... At the Annual Convention in Tucson about 10-12 years ago, I actually had the poor judgment to propose a rule amendment that would have allowed a Director to "fudge" the seeding by one place downward to prevent two teams that played each other in seeding from meeting in Round 1 of the bracket ... I got creamed! ... I still wake up sometimes in the middle of the night and can "hear" the unanimous crowd laughter to this day! ...

• Many of you have heard this line from me, and it's completely true: I am solely responsible for who you play in your seeding games, but YOU are solely responsible for who you play in the bracket, based on how you performed in seeding games relative to the other teams in your division ...

• I suspect it's unlikely that we will deviate from the current seeding procedures, but thanks for the thought! ...

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