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| July 17, 2007 CAT 200 posts | 5 runs or 11th. player...... The question for those of you who have participated in several World/National venues - " When playing a team higher than yours in classification, What have you found to be better: taking five runs or adding the 11th. player ?? "..........thanks. |
| July 17, 2007 Lecak Men's 60 1026 posts | CAT not sure where your located my recommendation before going to 11 defensive players would be to find a UTRIP,ASA or NSA toruney in your area where the young fellows playing C level and above are located. They typically run 5 man infields and some do it quite well. Study what they do. What I have noticed is without a good fielding pitcher who understands angles good hitting teams will just work the weak side of the defense. UTRIP has a very good website that will locate tournies in your area for C and above. My opinion only but a good five man infield needs a good spot pitcher who can field the weakside. |
| July 17, 2007 Fred Scerra Men's 80 542 posts | IMO it is simple. You take the 11th fielder. A good hitting team can make up 5 runs with no problem with the middle of the field wide open. |
| July 17, 2007 Elmo Men's 50 69 posts | Fred, I agree with you on eleven men in most cases, but, some of these qualifiers only allow you to score five runs and inning. Against some tems that can be a bunch to make up. It's almost like losing and entire inning. |
| July 17, 2007 MTM Men's 70 25 posts | I have played with the 11th player for over 5 years now in local 60 age leagues. I have not played with it in tournaments as we generally are playing in same division. The 5th infielder can be a devastating tool at that age because guys tend to run slower and the 5th infielder is near the bag. This results in a lot of double plays and generally if the batter hits up the middle he will be out. If you know the batter generally doesn’t hit up the middle the 5th infielder can move back (recommended with two outs and runner on first) and some times have a force at second or throw the runner out at first and also get to pop ups easier. I have watched tournaments with the under 35 age teams use the 5th infielder to stop teams from going up the middle but they also have very, very fast outfielders. There is a tape from 1987 hosted by Chuck Peet called slow pitch the championship way which shows how to play all positions plus more and it mentions the 5th infielder. So in closing I say take the extra fielder as you also could play 5 outfielders. |
| July 17, 2007 Fred Scerra Men's 80 542 posts | Your right to a point. I am basing my choice on the fact that the middle infielder will save you more than 5 runs if you have a good pitcher that can keep the opposing hitters off balance. We use the 5 run rule and 11 fielder in all our league games and based on the teams I pitch for and you have a good MF I can almost be sure that he saves at least 5 runs in just about all our games. |
| July 17, 2007 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | NCSSA a northern CA assn has this rule but do not mention that you can use the 5th player in the infield or outfield.een it both ways. ... 5. The defensive line-up must consist of no more than 10 players except 70 or older who may have 11. If 70 and older teams have to play younger teams they may still use 11 players on defense. A minimum of eight defensive players must be available to start a game. If other players arrive they must be put at the bottom of the batting order. The team that has less than 10 players will be the visiting team. They also have a 5 run equalizer, as I call it, but rarely use it and no given rule for it per se. No teams under 50 however. |
